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When I stopped reading the politics forums a few years ago I didn't expect to see any more diatribes about the perfidious China by random westerners who don't know what they're talking about but here we are I guess
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Fajita Queen posted:When I stopped reading the politics forums a few years ago I didn't expect to see any more diatribes about the perfidious China by random westerners who don't know what they're talking about but here we are I guess It’s rampant now, although at least in my country I don’t blame folks. Partly due to cynical politicians trying to grab attention and partly due to Huawei literally using spy drones and bribes to get the upper hand in contract negotiations.
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I thought the valid concern was Tencent just harvesting data in a way that would make Facebook think twice. It's pretty much the standard for global companies nowadays so it's not exactly sino phobic but the next step was thinking tencent would spy on you for the Chinese govt.
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leper khan posted:Any audio recording >=100 years old is fair game for the models John Barrymore, 1928, an excellent stage actor. Ignore that this is Shakespeare. Note the consistently trilled "r"s, the wide range of volume, the throatiness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myUbf9rjS8w
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The American accents have changed noticeably in 100 years. Furthermore, if you're using professional radio, phonograph, or film recordings, 1920s stage speech is very, very different from contemporary spoken English, far more from modern spoken English. Lolling at the idea of the next GTA game having everyone talk in a transatlantic movie accent
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External Organs posted:Lolling at the idea of the next GTA game having everyone talk in a transatlantic movie accent
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:This is all speculation - I don't have first hand knowledge of any of this: Indeed!
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Korean game dev Project Moon just publicly fired an artist after gamer backlash over her expressing feminist views on twitter. Yes the Korean general public is still rabidly anti-feminist. (My friend in Korea has said as much to me, this isn't just a foreigner randomly speculating.) https://www.gamerbraves.com/limbus-company-illustrator-fired-for-feminist-swimsuit-design-she-didnt-create/ quote:The story began earlier in July when ProjectMoon revealed a new summer event, S.E.A./The Magic Hellbus for their turn-based gacha RPG Limbus Company. here's the statement the company made on twitter (in Korean), and here it is through google's fancy new image translate feature:  
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Jul 26, 2023 23:03
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Not surprising, stuff like this is constantly going on over there. Pretty much every major company runs into a controversy which ends up with them firing a woman/women in order to appease an army of angry manchild incel gamers/weebs.
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Jul 26, 2023 23:18
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What a lovely company
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Keep in mind Korean internet uses "radical feminist/radfem" to mean "extreme feminist", there isn't any proof of the artist being transphobic (and lbr there's no way virulent misogynists are actually anti-transphobia) or misandrist.
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Here's a fairly detailed take on the whole thing, if you can tolerate going on to reddit. Project Moon's director really messed up here in my opinion, but that's really easy to say from a position of safety.
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Nah. gently caress that. If they felt threatened, say you're firing her, call the police, and get them arrested. And don't actually fire her. They fired her because they were actively interested in appeasing their fanbase of deranged manchildren. This isn't a isolated incident, this happens constantly in Korea.
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dervival posted:Here's a fairly detailed take on the whole thing. 
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Fruits of the sea posted:It’s rampant now, although at least in my country I don’t blame folks. Partly due to cynical politicians trying to grab attention and partly due to Huawei literally using spy drones and bribes to get the upper hand in contract negotiations. Cyberpunk really did just come true.
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I think it would be really nice if there were less violent misogyny happening constantly all over the world, and sometimes it feels like nothing makes a difference on that front.
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Just to show the widespread nature of the issue, here are a variety of just game-related controversies involving manchildren in Korea. There are plenty more instances outside of gaming. And I'm not Korean so these are just the ones that managed to reach Western news outlets that I also happened to read. These are some very large companies like Nexon and Smilegate (of Amazon fame) and some pretty popular games. quote:The latest row began when the CEO of Seoul-based IMC Games launched a probe into whether a female employee harboured "anti-social ideology" after complaints about her personal activity on Twitter. quote:An online controversy over a South Korean voice actress's tweeted image of a T-shirt has escalated into what is now being called East Asia's version of Gamergate — a reference to the vitriolic controversy that pitted gamers, largely men, against women in tech. quote:In response, the opposition Justice Party openly criticized Nexon for infringing on the woman’s labor rights. quote:Another major developer, Smilegate, promised last month to remove images by female illustrators accused by gamers of being linked to the group for writing or retweeting posts about women’s rights issues. quote:It took three years for players to notice the “offensive” hand gesture lurking in one of South Korea’s most popular multiplayer games. quote:A week earlier, Korean anti-feminist vigilantes shone their spotlight on another woman in the South Korean games industry. The Chinese game Girls Frontline had hired a Korean character artist to make anthropomorphic guns for the mobile strategy game. K7, an unreleased character, is a stern girl with long, white hair, cat ears and thigh-high socks. Two hours after K7’s announcement, gamers dug through her creator’s tweets and Twitter “likes.” What they found was a comic parodying “hannam” she’d retweeted and another retweet about how women fear hidden cameras. The studio’s Korean branch immediately vowed to suspend K7. Its Chinese headquarters said they’d investigate the artist’s alleged “extreme tendencies,” adding that “So far, there has been no evidence that any K7 illustrator belongs to a certain extreme feminist organization.” Girls Frontline studio Sunborn Games has not responded to multiple requests for comment. quote:A significant portion of Korean games developers and publishers who employ women targeted by anti-feminists have complied with critics’ calls to dismiss or rebuke employees. A plausible reason why shows up in the comments below games companies’ posts about the controversies: These critics are vocal about who they do and don’t want to be making their games. And these critics are also a large portion of their consumers. After two freelance illustrators on the failing Korean-made online game SoulWorkers were accused of having Megal-like Twitter feeds, and harassed as a result, SoulWorkers developers announced on March 26 that they’d replace the illustrations. They also said they’d begin “preliminary inspection” to make sure that these sort of “problems” didn’t occur in the future. In the next few days, a flood of new users overwhelmed SoulWorkers’ servers. It’s hard to prove causality, but SoulWorkers did seea 175% increase in players. Overwhelmed devs working around-the-clock to keep the servers up received box upon box of snacks, nutritional supplements and presents from players. (The illustrators have threatened legal action against their harassers.) quote:Korean artist Nardack recently became the center of a controversy related to feminism and the Chinese smartphone game Azur Lane. She revealed the details of the situation with X.D. Global, the game's publisher in South Korea, in a blog post on Sunday. quote:But in South Korea the fight appears to be much tougher. One female CEO of a gaming company told AFP that Nexon's 2016 decision emboldened the "witch-hunt." She says, "It's common sense that one should not be punished at the workplace for personal beliefs that have nothing to do with work... But that common sense is not accepted at all in this industry right now, especially for women." quote:When I asked the Korean Game Developers’ Guild why developers are on board with these “ideological verifications,” a representative told me that, because men make up the majority of Korean games companies and most Korean games consumers are men—and because feminism and so-called anti-male Megalian feminism are conflated so often—shaming radical feminists is a lucrative business decision. Sources: https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/07/29/487832991/south-korea-is-contending-with-a-gamergate-of-its-own-over-a-t-shirt https://www.france24.com/en/20180413-dark-side-play-koreas-female-game-makers https://qz.com/801067/an-epic-battle-between-feminism-and-deep-seated-misogyny-is-under-way-in-south-korea https://kotaku.com/in-south-korea-gamers-stage-an-inquisition-against-fem-1825398846 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...-groups/.131029 https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/02/business/south-korea-business-gender-war-intl-hnk-dst/index.html
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Absolutely not an issue limited to gaming, but... https://www.gamesindustry.biz/microsofts-concerning-conflict-minerals-disclosure-reflects-industry-wide-slippage quote:Conflict minerals sourcing gathered a lot of attention in the mid-2000s, specifically around how mining companies in the Democratic Republic of Congo had formed ties with various armed groups to control the country's goldfields and other natural resources. Those armed groups waged war with each other to wrest and maintain control of those resources, often using children as laborers or soldiers. Nothing to see, move along: quote:That's a line from the introduction of last year's Microsoft conflict minerals report, a line Microsoft began including in its reports starting with the 2019 reporting year. We'll think about it: quote:Sony identified 69 suppliers this year who were using such smelters/refiners. Only 22 told Sony they would take steps to improve their sourcing. Sony says it "may" stop doing business with suppliers who don't cooperate, but even admits that step would only be taken after "numerous requests and reminders" fail to produce the desired improvement. And possibly the best of the lot: quote:Last year, GameStop's reporting was unremarkable. It received a 100% response rate from its suppliers, and said 14 of the 16 SORs they collectively used were certified as conflict-free. 
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Semi-conductor fabs are a monstrosity but they are basically all in Taiwan and China so it's kind of a mess in regards to corporate governance. That's not to say the industry shouldn't be heavily pushing and incentivizing ethically sourced precious metals, which they evidently aren't. Just that it's unlikely that any big electronics supply chain is completely free of conflict minerals. All that said, holy poo poo Gamestop. Did they switch auditors? Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Fruits of the sea posted:Semi-conductor fabs are a monstrosity but they are basically all in Taiwan and China so it's kind of a mess in regards to corporate governance. That's not to say the industry shouldn't be heavily pushing and incentivizing ethically sourced precious metals, which they evidently aren't. Just that it's unlikely that any big electronics supply chain is completely free of conflict minerals. It reads to me like they expanded from 16 total SORs in 2021, to 50 in 2022. Most of the new ones weren't compliant.
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Just a general rule of thumb and unprompted thought, but I tend to feel that at the point where you make genital models, that is the time where management should lay down the law and demand scope control, unless you are a purveyor of porn games.
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StratGoatCom posted:Just a general rule of thumb and unprompted thought, but I tend to feel that at the point where you make genital models, that is the time where management should lay down the law and demand scope control, unless you are a purveyor of porn games. I dunno man, the temperature-responsive horse nuts in RDR2 were a pretty key feature for the kinds of people who actually notice those things. And who knows, maybe someday modders will be really interested in knowing if Cloud dresses to the left or to the right?
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StratGoatCom posted:Just a general rule of thumb and unprompted thought, but I tend to feel that at the point where you make genital models, that is the time where management should lay down the law and demand scope control, unless you are a purveyor of porn games. Balder's Gate 3? On the one hand modders are going to "put tits on a mudcrab" eventually so you might just put them in from the start. On the other hand many modders would consider any default naughty bits "inadequate" so just let them do all the work.
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MH Knights posted:Balder's Gate 3? yeah, and it's a red flag that other resources are being wasted if you see that kind of poo poo. basically, if you hear that your art dev is researching dick and balls, it's time to find out what in blazes is going on there because you can bet more and worse resource misallocation is happening. StratGoatCom fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Aug 8, 2023 |
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StratGoatCom posted:yeah, and it's a red flag that other resources are being wasted if you see that kind of poo poo. This is one of the strangest takes I have ever heard, especially citing a game that by all accounts is pretty good at delivering what it promised in spades? What resources are the artists not working on because they made some lewd bits?
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both BG3 and RDR2 have gotten criticism for developmental excess, though i think that you could draw way stronger correlations between content and budget misallocation re: subjects other than nut physics
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claw game handjob posted:This is one of the strangest takes I have ever heard, especially citing a game that by all accounts is pretty good at delivering what it promised in spades? What resources are the artists not working on because they made some lewd bits? They should not be working on that many at all! Overscope is a rampant problem in AAA.
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Baldur's Gate 3 is a game that at least unless everyone is lying just took this long because that's how long a big budget game takes when employees work reasonable hours. So far as I've played it's great, tons of fun reactivity.
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StratGoatCom posted:yeah, and it's a red flag that other resources are being wasted if you see that kind of poo poo. The one area you're correct in is that while they're researching that there are people out there that have been doing that poo poo for free for years, bring them in, they'll whip one out in a day and a half tops.
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It was very important that I get a fully modeled Bugbear dong for the critical storytelling experience of BG3. Seriously though I think that the artists had time on their hands waiting for the writers to complete the dialog for every single loving animal and dead body in the game. It's like they saw the graveyard scene in the DnD movie and somebody said "YES I NEED HOURS OF THAT".
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Terrible Opinions posted:Baldur's Gate 3 is a game that at least unless everyone is lying just took this long because that's how long a big budget game takes when employees work reasonable hours. So far as I've played it's great, tons of fun reactivity. even in that case... well, to steal a term from GSG, it may be a signal to start going wide rather then tall with your projects.
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Rockstar actually did skimp on Arthur Morgan's dangly bits.  But I think there's a difference between, like, modeling Alyx's cervix and acknowledging genitals exist. People have genitals and have sex. They can just exist and not be weird.
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mycot posted:Rockstar actually did skimp on Arthur Morgan's dangly bits. That reminds me of an article I read about the adult content modders for Skyrim. They talked to the top rated genital creator, and she said something like "I don't do it for porn sake, I do it because I feel that genitals are real, and that it's important that my character have them even if I never see them."
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It's probably not great for games intended to be rated for a younger audience or without nudity, and I think it's deffo not great when, say, you're using a licensed likeness. Someone had the bright idea to render the breasts on Kim Basinger's licensed likeness in that Crime Boss: Rockay City game, and then, because the game's a jankfest, her blouse would clip through her.
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cyberpunk would have been fine on release if cd project red hadn't spent $25M on modeling dicks and balls
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BG3 was in early access for 3 years and was in way better shape when early access started than when CP2077 actually released lol They also had an absolutely insane budget compared to their past games. Not even 10 years ago they were relying on Kickstarter just to do Original Sin with a few $M budget while BG3 is well above $100M Larian was a relatively small indie developer prior to BG3 and they don't have a management suite typical of a large AAA developer. They don't have a CEO who's spending their time managing their multiple ongoing projects or anything. Their founder/CEO is the actual director of BG3. koolkal fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Aug 8, 2023 |
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koolkal posted:BG3 was in early access for 3 years and was in way better shape when early access started than when CP2077 actually released lol That's all well and good but what if we just made strange, spurious claims and blamed them on dicks and boobs instead
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Is there any good info on the budget of BG3? Luke warm take at this point: BG3 is an outstanding game and I expect it will be a landmark title that will become the universal measuring stick for RPGs for many years to come. Larian did a wonderful job - dicks and boobs included.
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Yeah, uh, that's a problem considering most won't use the same EA model, it will be C-suit morons trying to make their own with their own dysfunctional product dev models and crunch. There's a convo needed on scope and project management in the industry and it needs to happen hard.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Is there any good info on the budget of BG3? No info AFAIK on actual budget but they had 400 developers and active development was 5 or so years. Some numbers to compare it to: CP2077: 500 developers, $175M development cost, 5 years Horizon Forbidden West: 300 developers $212M development cost, 5 years TLOU2: 200 developers, $220M development cost, 6 years These generally refer to full-time employees although there's usually often a varying amount of work contracted out depending on the project. koolkal fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Aug 8, 2023 |
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