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My favorite air to air kill from Desert Storm was the F-111 getting one. So I guess if the onboard whizbang tech is good enough at discriminating targets, you could literally lob way up high in the general vicinity of enemy helos and let it just home in?
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The last generation of gun cruisers were fully expecting to use their 6-inch guns in the AA role, so it's not without precedent.
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Madurai posted:The last generation of gun cruisers were fully expecting to use their 6-inch guns in the AA role, so it's not without precedent. Makes sense, as much as guys manning 40mm Bofors guns or tons of .50's looked good for news reel video, it was the 5" DP gun paired with radar gunnery that really knocked the poo poo out of Japanese air attacks latter in the war, wasn't it? I think I'm still erring towards the assessment that the video in question is a long range SAM coming in from above though.
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Arrath posted:Makes sense, as much as guys manning 40mm Bofors guns or tons of .50's looked good for news reel video, it was the 5" DP gun paired with radar gunnery that really knocked the poo poo out of Japanese air attacks latter in the war, wasn't it? The VT fuse had a lot to do with that. But as I like to remind people, the 24 Betty's that hit the Guadalcanal landing force on the first day got chopped up by USN forces that didn't have the VT and barely had radar fire control.
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Hannibal Rex posted:Or it could be a rando shitposting for twitter cred. Well, that sure does look like an Excalibur detonation.
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Aug 6, 2023 11:46
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-66393949 Just another example of regular Russians ignoring the reality of the invasion and the destruction caused by it as long as they get to benefit - in this case, "cheap homes by the sea in Mariupol" gently caress Putin and gently caress these people - we've all seen the pictures of the mass graves after Mariupol was captured last year.
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Aug 6, 2023 14:13
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It's a SAM; excalibur isn't growing its rounds to the size of a VW bus and GPS prox-killing helicopters mid-air. That twitter account is just some random idiot who forgot that excalibur rounds shouldn't appear to be as long as a helicopter is tall and didn't seem to realize that SAMs don't just cruise in a straight line at their targets. The potato quality video:  A Ka-52:  An excalibur round: 
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Aug 6, 2023 14:22
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as someone utterly unqualified to comment on what that specific munition is, it sure is impressive looking.
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Zelenskyy signing a SCALP-EG. Note the Eiffel Tower-Tryzub mash-up. I assume this is a symbolic early delivery from France. https://twitter.com/MilAviaUA/status/1688177061125369856
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Herstory Begins Now posted:as someone utterly unqualified to comment on what that specific munition is, it sure is impressive looking. I think it might be S-300. They are both humongous missiles and they have a gigantic warhead for a SAM (to compensate for how they are really not very agile and so cannot expect to hit very close to a maneuvering target), so when one targets something that's hovering in place and gets a bullseye hit, the explosion is rather excessive. Another possibility is a patriot, but I think the patriot missiles they have are smaller. The other good reason to think S-300 is that they are very low on missile stocks for them and there are no compatible western supply (as with Buk), which means that the launchers are much more expendable than their other heavy AA. A patriot or Buk battery lost is a battery less for the rest of the war, but a battery of S-300 isn't going to be shooting much anyway, so it's less scary to risk them on the frontlines.
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Could it be an artillery hit for true, but not some kind of elite super 360 noscope thing so much as "if you shoot a lot of artillery shells at an area, and there are helicopters hovering over it, you may eventually hit one"?
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https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1688184372002725889 Russia's other bridge hit about an hour ago, sorry for birdsite
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Nessus posted:Could it be an artillery hit for true, but not some kind of elite super 360 noscope thing so much as "if you shoot a lot of artillery shells at an area, and there are helicopters hovering over it, you may eventually hit one"? 
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Nessus posted:Could it be an artillery hit for true, but not some kind of elite super 360 noscope thing so much as "if you shoot a lot of artillery shells at an area, and there are helicopters hovering over it, you may eventually hit one"? Wondering how many WWII planes were brought down by random artillery shells meant for ground targets. Probably low double digits?
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Got to be highly ranked on the "Unluckiest way to die on a battlefield" list.
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large hands posted:Looks like the video of the helicopter that got hit by Patriot in Russian airspace a while back Wait, there's video of that? Was it confirmed it was Patriot that shot it down?
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AFAIK there's no video, but the Ukrainians claimed it a few days to a couple weeks later
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jaete posted:Wait, there's video of that? Was it confirmed it was Patriot that shot it down? https://twitter.com/Shavghan/status/1657371248886796288?t=4MtcWndkM4QuyHMdxWiUxg&s=19 There was video at the time shot by someone who happened to be filming one of the mi8s. I recall someone posting some still frames showing a missile about the length of the mi-8 coming in from the front. This was a day or two after the first storm shadow use and a lot of people were claiming trigger happy Russian AD, but Ukraine recently confirmed it was a patriot that got all four aircraft that day. I think they showed the launcher/command vehicle with the corresponding stencils on the side.
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crossposting a gbs post re a different ka-52 shootdownweg posted:The Americans spent millions perfecting an ejection seat while the Russians simply use the ground.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:crossposting a gbs post re a different ka-52 shootdown Goddamn
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrainian-phone-scammers-allegedly-tricking-russians-into-torching-military-offices?ref=home This is the weirdest loving war.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrainian-phone-scammers-allegedly-tricking-russians-into-torching-military-offices?ref=home We live in the alternate reality we were warned about. 
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrainian-phone-scammers-allegedly-tricking-russians-into-torching-military-offices?ref=home We did say at the outset that we cannot afford a babushka gap
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrainian-phone-scammers-allegedly-tricking-russians-into-torching-military-offices?ref=home Yeah, there’s no way that Russians would be protesting their sons being killed for Putin, it MUST be evil Ukrainian scammers (the sort we’re fighting to stop). This all makes perfect sense. Read no further into it. That’s an order.
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Madurai posted:WE CANNOT ALLOW A BABUSHKA GAP Comrade Blyatlov posted:We did say at the outset that we cannot afford a babushka gap I'll be taking my victory lap now.
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Madurai posted:I'll be taking my victory lap now. And well deserved
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrainian-phone-scammers-allegedly-tricking-russians-into-torching-military-offices?ref=home Remember that joke at the height of the war on terror that if the terrorists ever convinced a 90 year old lady to hide explosives in her wheelchair, we've already lost? Welp  The MOST asymmetric warfare.
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It wasn't ever a joke but any competent and motivated university chemistry student could do worse than any terrorist. Just that the competent sort tend to have reasons not to commit to Jihad with their lifes work.
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M_Gargantua posted:It wasn't ever a joke but any competent and motivated university chemistry student could do worse than any terrorist. Just that the competent sort tend to have reasons not to commit to Jihad with their lifes work. Chemistry student? A disgruntled biology student could do way worse. Everyone is looking for explosives, nobody's looking for prions or viruses.
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AlternateNu posted:Remember that joke at the height of the war on terror that if the terrorists ever convinced a 90 year old lady to hide explosives in her wheelchair, we've already lost? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vo_eZq_Qi4
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McGavin posted:Chemistry student? A disgruntled biology student could do way worse. Everyone is looking for explosives, nobody's looking for prions or viruses. It's way easier to make explosives through common lab chemicals than breed a virus.
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's way easier to make explosives through common lab chemicals than breed a virus. There’s nothing hard about bringing in a bunch of kindergartners to touch all the surfaces in a room.
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M_Gargantua posted:It wasn't ever a joke but any competent and motivated university chemistry student could do worse than any terrorist Usually they just make drugs instead
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I think most people in this thread have easier access to ammonium nitrate, et al, than a bunch of unsupervised children. That's probably a good thing
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Soul Dentist posted:I think most people in this thread have easier access to ammonium nitrate, et al, than a bunch of unsupervised children. That sentence could be read two different ways.
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Kesper North posted:Usually they just make drugs instead drugs are a net plus to a bank account, terrorism and prison time are not.
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M_Gargantua posted:drugs are a net plus to a bank account, terrorism and prison time are not.  Soul Dentist posted:I think most people in this thread have easier access to ammonium nitrate, et al, than a bunch of unsupervised children. That's probably a good thing Ever been to a farm? They're full of ammonium nitrate AND unsupervised children! Why meth labs turn up on farms so much, too. Kesper North fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's way easier to make explosives through common lab chemicals than breed a virus. People will intentionally spread your bioweapon themselves if COVID is any indication.
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