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Defiance Industries posted:Too bad they took the sun devices out of the armor, though. I like that the Capellan flagship designs from the time all had the same decorative motif. This will not do anything in Alpha Strike if the other person is running any kind of Urbie with long range damage, which they will absolutely be doing if they like having a chance to win. Not even "like winning", just like having the opportunity on the table somewhere. Atlas Hugged posted:I will be playing Alpha Strike on Wednesday and my opponent is taking 16 Urbanmechs. What is the stupidest thing I can do in response? Four Annihilators. "I'm not locked in here with you..."
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Strobe posted:I'm holding out hope for a new Jinggau in something. The art that dropped in Shrapnel vol 12 is sick.
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The Jinggau has been in a video game? EDIT: wait I'm stupid. I... do not particularly like the PGI mech aesthetic, but I sympathize with wanting a cool mini.
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Strobe posted:This will not do anything in Alpha Strike if the other person is running any kind of Urbie with long range damage, which they will absolutely be doing if they like having a chance to win. Not even "like winning", just like having the opportunity on the table somewhere. The AC/10 and the PPC have the same range in AS? The gently caress? You can wander around with an AC/10 and shoot people who are 20 hexes out?
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Defiance Industries posted:The AC/10 and the PPC have the same range in AS? The gently caress? You can wander around with an AC/10 and shoot people who are 20 hexes out? No, but there are Urbies with PPCs. There are Urbies with anything under the loving sun, at this point. For anyone who is unfamiliar: range in Alpha Strike are divided into Short/Medium/Long, they're the same ranges for everything (within 6", within 24", within 42"), and you either do damage in a given bracket or you don't. AC/10s do damage in short/medium, PPCs do damage in short/medium/long. Roughly speaking, if a weapon only does damage at 1-3 hexes it only has short range damage, up to 15 hexes is medium range damage, and 16+ is long range damage. I'm kind of fuzzy on whether it's actually 16+ or if it's 18+ but I also can't think of any guns with a 16 or 17 hex long range in the first place off the top of my head. The Urbanmech UM-R63 and UM-R69 both do long range damage in AS.
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Yeah the big thing here is just that Alpha Strike is a very different game. I can't remember all the composition rules (was going to do that on Tuesday), but I think I can just take a bunch of Inner Sphere mechs and probably be ok. I want to try and get a Devastator, Rampage, and Axman on the board just for the heck of it.
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Strobe posted:The Jinggau has been in a video game? Having recently played a lot of MW5 (and having been a 2013 MWO oldvet) I'm of the opinion that the CGL mini aesthetic, while sharing some design language with PGI (Alex Iglasias) designs, is distinctly different. A whole bunch of artists stepped in for Brent Evans's CGL art team to provide the basic concepts for minis, including folks like David White who hit some home runs for MechWarrior 4 a couple of decades ago. Though I think Anthony Scroggins does a lot of it? The fact that players are reading the designs as a single aesthetic is a testament to how well the art direction has gone, while PGI's designs have been hit-and-miss despite being directed a different way altogether. e: oh wait does Scroggins lead the art team now? Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Aug 7, 2023 |
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Scroggins does a lot of it, but if you look hard enough a couple artists have styles that somehow manage to be distinct still within the larger new design aesthetic. Scroggins' patreon is probably a pretty good indicator of the ones he's worked on personally, for anyone curious.Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:e: oh wait does Scroggins lead the art team now? Brent Evans is still the art director as of like three days ago when he was doing "What's up with Catalyst" stuff at Gencon. Whether there's a separate "art team" that Scroggins heads within that organization I haven't the faintest clue. Strobe fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Aug 7, 2023 |
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Bob Smith posted:Do any Battletech experts here know if there would be a major change in size and shape between the regular Blackjack and the Omni version, or how you'd convert a model for one to the other? The BJ2-O looks really similar on Sarna (although the art styles of the images used are a little bit different), but it's 5 tons heavier and carries a lot more gun. The Omni version is only 5 tons more, so while BT now does all their mech (re)designs in digital renders first and makes sure that scale is consistent as weight climbs, the difference between 5 tons means that whenever an official model of the Omni appears it's not going to be much bigger than the original. Strobe posted:Brent Evans is still the art director as of like three days ago when he was doing "What's up with Catalyst" stuff at Gencon. Whether there's a separate "art team" that Scroggins heads within that organization I haven't the faintest clue. Formally, Brent is the Catalyst art director, while Anthony is the BT art director. However, in practice BT art redesigns are hashed out via a committee of Brent, Anthony, Ray, and Randall (along with the artist who is assigned to do the work on any given design, who might be Anthony but is sometimes a freelancer).
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Strobe posted:Scroggins does a lot of it, but if you look hard enough a couple artists have styles that somehow manage to be distinct still within the larger new design aesthetic. Scroggins' patreon is probably a pretty good indicator of the ones he's worked on personally, for anyone curious. Scroggins is mostly in charge of the redesigns of older mechs while another team handles the new Ilclan era mechs.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Yeah the big thing here is just that Alpha Strike is a very different game. I can't remember all the composition rules (was going to do that on Tuesday), but I think I can just take a bunch of Inner Sphere mechs and probably be ok. I want to try and get a Devastator, Rampage, and Axman on the board just for the heck of it. An Axman is never a wrong choice 
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Gencon Minis Diorama has Clan Wolf/Smoke Jaguar/Jade Falcon/Raven Alliance attacking and destroying a House Liao Warrior house Hiritsu force on New Home, year unknown. Interesting.
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Xotl posted:The Omni version is only 5 tons more, so while BT now does all their mech (re)designs in digital renders first and makes sure that scale is consistent as weight climbs, the difference between 5 tons means that whenever an official model of the Omni appears it's not going to be much bigger than the original. I think then an arm swap and bulking out the torso/shoulders/lower legs with some plasticard might be enough to differentiate it properly then, just give the sense it's a bulkier unit. Otherwise just making sure it's clearly distinctly armed as something the 45-ton version can't have will do.
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I'll be playing my first game against someone else who's never played before. There are no-one around here who's played it before, so we can't ask locally. Are there any mechs that would be good for a 1vs1 mech, and a 2vs2 mech game? By good, I mean interesting for a first game, but not likely to melt out brains.
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Electric Hobo posted:I'll be playing my first game against someone else who's never played before. There are no-one around here who's played it before, so we can't ask locally. I think the starter boxes has 50ish ton mechs for a reason. Tough enough that a random leg shot won’t end the battle, but light enough that it doesn’t drag on. More than one weapon system but not so many that you’re confused of what you’re supposed to do.
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Electric Hobo posted:I'll be playing my first game against someone else who's never played before. There are no-one around here who's played it before, so we can't ask locally. Wolverine vs. Griffin 1v1, 2v2 add Centurion vs. Enforcer Doesn't really matter who takes what, it'll be pretty fair.
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Gencon Minis Diorama has Clan Wolf/Smoke Jaguar/Jade Falcon/Raven Alliance attacking and destroying a House Liao Warrior house Hiritsu force on New Home, year unknown. Interesting. Interesting because of the unlikely Clan collaboration, or interesting because the Capellans are finally taking it in 3152? Year unknown, my rear end
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Did anyone else ever pick up a package of a half-dozen toilet paper rolls and put it on your shoulder and say "streak SRM 6 you take 12 damage" to your brother
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SuperKlaus posted:Did anyone else ever pick up a package of a half-dozen toilet paper rolls and put it on your shoulder and say "streak SRM 6 you take 12 damage" to your brother no but I've put foam pipe insulation tubes over my arms to pretend to be a warhammer
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Interesting because of the unlikely Clan collaboration, or interesting because the Capellans are finally taking it in 3152? It could be very early 3153 
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New Chaos March let's goooooo
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The new Chaos March is the Hinterlands and I very badly want more in that area.
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Strobe posted:The new Chaos March is the Hinterlands and I very badly want more in that area. We are getting another sourcebook and a new novel there next year, which is nice.
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Strobe posted:The Jinggau has been in a video game?
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Flipswitch posted:Yeah it's the style I prefer over the CGL(?) one. Wait now I think I haven't actually seen the PGI Jinggau yet. It's not the fan art Scroggins did back then, is it? 
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Interesting because of the unlikely Clan collaboration, or interesting because the Capellans are finally taking it in 3152?
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The presence of the Ravens definitely puts it in 3152 or later, since that's when they started capturing FS worlds.
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One thing I sincerely like about BT is that I won't have to learn how to play it again every few years. As a busy adult it's obnoxious to have to deal with the rules changing every few times I have to play, and the units "rebalanced" withlut a proper edition change before I even finish learning what they all do. Not a lot of games keep standards half as well.
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If I were to go with a Clan force that is by the book but somewhat absurd, is there a better option than the Fire Mandrills? Specifically, the weirdness that is (I swear this is canon) Kindraa Mick-Kreese-Kline-Sainze
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This was new at GenCon, and will probably be showing up from IWM in the next month or so, but I love this 'Mech and it's fun as hell to paint:
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Owlbear Camus posted:One thing I sincerely like about BT is that I won't have to learn how to play it again every few years. As a busy adult it's obnoxious to have to deal with the rules changing every few times I have to play, and the units "rebalanced" withlut a proper edition change before I even finish learning what they all do.
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Speaking of coming back to the game, played my first game in a while yesterday, and have reached a conclusion: Pilots that aren't 4/5 skill make the game so much more pleasant. Maybe I'll make it back out to the shop sometime for physical games.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Wait now I think I haven't actually seen the PGI Jinggau yet.
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SkyeAuroline posted:Speaking of coming back to the game, played my first game in a while yesterday, and have reached a conclusion: Pilots that aren't 4/5 skill make the game so much more pleasant. 3/4 is where the game does start to shine. Without Pulse weapons, 4/5 pilots often have to Walk or Not Move just to get that magic 7 to-hit, given a medium 'Mech's usual movement mod of +2 or +3. And that's even if their weapons are in Short range and there's no intervening Woods in the way. It gets much worse if the weapons can't even make it to the +0 bracket in the first place. Just 1 lower Gunnery (or a Targeting Computer, or AES in arms) allows a 'Mech to make the most of their ground speed and get the same chances to hit, if not easier due to better positioning. Having your cake and eating it too in regards to moving and shooting in the same turn is part of the reason why Clan unit loadouts need to be balanced they way they are--3/4 pilots/crews are often assumed, and the machines don't have to pick between firepower and maneuverability.
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Flipswitch posted:I've honestly no idea, but it's one of those mechs if love to see so I can get a 3d printed one, along with the Lu Wei Bing and the Gùn CGL are working on a new line of faction specific force boxes to go with the new faction books, and Scroggins mentioned in an interview with Big Red 40Tech that they're doing both Clan Invasion and IlClan era mechs. So we might be getting some of the newer Liao designs in plastic in the next couple years.
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Settled on the following to destroy 16 Urbanmechs: Battle Lance Rampage 5G Blackjack BJ-3 Axman 1N Warhammer 6R Command Lance Archer 5R (combat intuition) Wraith TR5 (commander) Phoenix Hawk 3K Crab CRB-45 (combat intuition) The Rampage, Warhammer, Archer, and Crab have had their skill rating improved to 3. 325 BV total.
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Strobe posted:There isn't one. If you find a .stl for the Imp it's is syllogy's stuff considered files? he's got a huge inventory of stls. he makes the models from scratch based on the video game versions. here's the imp https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-imp-1a-imp-for-battletech-105358
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:CGL are working on a new line of faction specific force boxes to go with the new faction books, and Scroggins mentioned in an interview with Big Red 40Tech that they're doing both Clan Invasion and IlClan era mechs. So we might be getting some of the newer Liao designs in plastic in the next couple years. IlClan era? Oh man, I hope that means Republic 'mechs and Nova Cat mechs like the Cave Lion get a mini...
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:is syllogy's stuff considered files? he's got a huge inventory of stls. he makes the models from scratch based on the video game versions. here's the imp I've found the details on his aren't as well defined compared to the official catalyst models. However his models are a lot sharper than catalyst stuff which has a slightly "soft" appearance (material constraints maybe?).
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:3/4 is where the game does start to shine. Pulses definitely help out a ton, and a gunnery 3 pilot with pulses feels like aimbot (I can only imagine for clanners). I was also fortunate enough to have the Thunderbolt with the targeting computer, who managed to trade equally with a Warhammer for several turns and mutually destroy each other in the end. May end up writing down the piloting/gunnery change BVs on my record sheets... lot of work but easier to use on the fly than printing whole new sheets or running it all off MUL. Another match with the same four mechs on Sunday - this one was just a practice round. BLR-4S (3/4), SDR-8M (3/5), WVR-9M (3/4), TDR-10SE (3/5). Still learning the new tech as a normally 3025 player, but I'm sure it'll go fine. No idea what the other guy is bringing, or even if it's IS or Clan, so this ought to be an interesting surprise.
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