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OctaMurk posted:As a relatively thin person I don't actually understand any of the people who seem unhappy that there is an "easy way" to get thin. It was easy for me, my body just tells me how much to eat and also I love to exercise. If other peoples bodies are telling them to eat a lot more so they become fat, and a medicine can fix that, thats pretty cool? Because he's mad at himself for having got fat at all, feels better by lording his superiority over those other fatties, and really, really doesn't like the idea that he was only able to do it because he it was literally easier for him than other people. It's about personal gratification from "participating" in the conversation, not any actual desire to see people in better shape.
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CapnAndy posted:I really don't think we have to look any further than the obvious answer, which is that for a while there it was really hard to catch these guys. The baby boom skyrocketed the population and spread it out, creating bigger cities and suburbs where you had anonymity. That let them run rampant until DNA hit the scene, and now if you leave so much as a skin cell, the cops have your entire family tree. Eh, it aint exactly csi out there. Like half of murders go unsolved. Im sure a good murderer could get away with a lot.
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OctaMurk posted:Friends who dont wanna do hiking and stuff with me because their weight literally makes it really difficult and unrewarding will be able to go now. I really wanted to do more hiking and went with friends a few times but they got frustrated at how "slow" I was and stopped inviting me. Oh hey, there's those tricky "social" issues again, I'm sure it's all just willpower though. Edit: Alright I think I need to take a break here because I'm legitimately upset. So I'm out. Sorry for prolonging food derail.
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Obviously the serial killer craze ended when Morpheus reclaimed the Corinthian
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The serial killers all got too fat, couldn't chase their victims anymore.
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https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1631767251190943744 Somebody's been chatting with his KSA buddies... I guess he's looking at the increasing rural/urban divide and thinks he can fix that by making conservative cities or w/e. But there aren't any conservative cities, not even in red states. e: oh no he wants to build them on federal lands. I look forward to vacationing in Groom Lake City, Nevada. e2: also literal flying cars lmao zoux fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Washington DT's nice but New Trump City's got a better skyline GTA6 has a locale, now we just need to find a developer.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1631767251190943744 Every now and then I spend hours looking up the latest on "The Line" city, Neom, theyre building. The most cracked up megaproject that seems to have gotten somewhat underway, maybe ever? Seems like an absolutely titanic grift train for Western consultants
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I am ironically on board with building new planned cities across America in some of the most rural states.
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The Line (styled THE LINE; Arabic: ذا لاين) is a linear smart city under construction in Saudi Arabia in Neom, Tabuk Province, which is designed to have no cars, streets or carbon emissions. The 170-kilometre-long (110 mi) city is part of Saudi Vision 2030 project, which Saudi Arabia claims will create around 460,000 jobs and add an estimated $48 billion to the country's GDP. The Line is planned to be the first development of a $500 billion project in Neom. The city's plans anticipate a population of 9 million though Saudi Arabia has a population of 35.5 million. Excavation work had started along the entire length of the project by October 2022.
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Morrow posted:I am ironically on board with building new planned cities across America in some of the most rural states. Skip cities and go straight to Arcologies
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Adenoid Dan posted:I would say all the talk about how it isn't a personal problem enables a discussion of societal and environmental causes, which is prevented by acting like it can be solved on a personal level. The personal level can't be neglected either, because while various social and cultural and economic factors may contribute to people making poor decisions, there are still people making poor decisions. It's not an individual problem, in the sense that 90 million individuals all have this problem and therefore it's clearly not just a random shift in a few people's personal behavior. But that doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of individuals making these choices. And no matter what, at the end of the day, getting people to adopt healthier lifestyles requires them to individually choose to put in the extra effort and deferred reward that those healthier lifestyles require. Yes, we should look at social and cultural incentives and pressures and adjust them where we can, but in the end, that all works by guiding people to make different individual choices. 90 million people need to solve this on a personal level, and all we can really do is create conditions that make it easier for them to do so. Mellow Seas posted:People shouldn’t have to count calories to not get fat. Almost every person of healthy weight on the planet eats intuitively. Counting calories is work. Literal work, actual labor (which is arguably subsidizing the companies that put out the delicious engineered food we can’t resist.) That saps energy and time and depletes the (absolutely finite) amount of willpower people have to bring to bear. Beyond that, you are demanding organizational skills that may be legitimately beyond some people. It is far too much “individual solution” for me to think of as even a part of a wider solution to the problem. Yes, counting calories is work. But cooking is work too! Shopping for food is work too! Basically every human being in all of history has had had to do work for their meals, including not just the work needed to obtain the food but the work needed to prepare it, the work needed to ensure that it's within their budget and won't deplete their food or money supplies, and so on. The only exceptions were fabulously wealthy aristocrats who had servants and/or serfs to handle all that work for them. When the heck did we start thinking that eating didn't involve work and self-restraint? That's not a snarky rhetorical question, either - it's a legitimate question whose answer is probably critically important to solving the obesity epidemic. I don't think the "moral failing" model really needs addressing because it's an obvious dead end. If 90 million people are all making the same bad decision, then it doesn't really matter whether it's due to moral failings or not: we need to do something about it, and since screaming at them clearly doesn't work, we need to find some other way to influence their decision-making in a more positive direction. It's the same as dealing with Republican voters - whether voting for the GOP is a moral failing or a result of circumstances, the fact remains that supporting the GOP is destroying the country and we need to change their voting behavior. And since screaming at them isn't working, we need to find other ways to win them over and influence their decisions.
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At least make it a circle. A line is probably the worst way to design a city. Line city is a gritty detective noir film from flatland.
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^^^^^ Right??? Why the gently caress would you not do a circle??? It’s just a more convenient line! Like the King of England I am rabidly pro-preplanned city. If NIMBY is stopping us from building dense housing and infrastructure then go build it far away from anybody’s backyard. You (probably?) can’t base a whole city around remote workers and workers to provide services, but remote work makes much more plausible the idea of getting one of these cities off the ground, until they evolve more organic local economies. Of course if it was implemented by Trump, it would be awful, and this is 100% the kind of infrastructure-week type of thing he never, ever follows through on anyway. Mellow Seas fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/PiquantParvenu/status/1689104775135322112 This doesn't account for population growth, something like "serial killers per million" would be more useful. Also maybe the proliferation of serial killer podcasts and documentaries in the past 20 years have taught them how to avoid getting caught. 
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1631767251190943744 isn't this just what china has been doing for the last 20 years, but without rail lines to connect everything
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OctaMurk posted:Every now and then I spend hours looking up the latest on "The Line" city, Neom, theyre building. The most cracked up megaproject that seems to have gotten somewhat underway, maybe ever? Seems like an absolutely titanic grift train for Western consultants
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deoju posted:This doesn't account for population growth, something like "serial killers per million" would be more useful. A bit of this, a bit of the internet giving deranged sadists other outlets, spree killing being more en vogue, the end of the leaded gas era, and probably a bunch of other factors of varying importance, some probably wildly unintuitive. Many murders don't get solved, but that doesn't mean the unsolved cases are randomly distributed--that any random murder has the same chance of leading to an arrest. So technology catching them early isn't necessarily incompatible with an overall lovely clearance rate.
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Rebel Blob posted:They know it: "As more of them arrived, foreign employees began describing their experiences with a joke: When you start at Neom, you bring two buckets. The first is to hold all the gold you’ll accumulate, and with so many living expenses taken care of, it will soon grow heavy. The second bucket is for all the poo poo you take. When that bucket is full, you pick up your bucket of gold and leave. It often doesn’t take long; many people Neom hires last less than a year." Soooo, uhhhh, as a civil engineer how would I go about getting one of these gold-bucket sham jobs? I’m in road design and I know the whole thing about Neom is that it doesn’t have roads, but um, similar principles apply to hallways.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/PiquantParvenu/status/1689104775135322112 would this not be a chart of serial killers who have been caught?
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1631767251190943744 I can see him convincing The Villages to rename themselves "Trump City" and declaring that he kept this campaign promise till the end of time.
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Riptor posted:would this not be a chart of serial killers who have been caught? Of course there could absolutely be serial killers who don’t follow an MO - which I think describes the Long Island guy? So definitely an undercount.
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SpeedFreek posted:For the part of weight loss that involves lifestyle changes it sounds like that drug helps with that. Is it hard to make or is it just the company that makes it that makes it so expensive right now? It's both. It's a combination of: - The drug was just approved for weight loss recently and was exclusively for diabetics until about 6 months ago. - There are two other competitors, but they haven't been approved for weight loss for non-diabetics yet (it is assumed they will be approved in the next 6 months or so because they work very similarly to WeGovy) - There are patents because they are new drugs, so there won't be generics until at least 2026. - Since the drug was exclusively for diabetics until recently, they didn't have any reason to make it on a massive scale. They are trying to scale up production, but it will take some time. - There are shortages of the drug because of the big increase in demand that happened rapidly and low production levels. As a result, they have tried to ration it to diabetics first and charge a lot for non-diabetics to get it for weight loss purposes (about 30% of private insurers cover it right now for non-diabetics and Medicare does not cover it at all for non-diabetics).
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As I understand they're also "drug you go on for life" rather than "drug you go on while you lose the weight" which factors into long-term production needs.
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Adenoid Dan posted:If it were a simple change to actually commit to over years, most people would not be failing at it. I am literally hungry all the time because my body thinks it's in a famine after losing 1/3 of it's mass ... even a 1/4 century later. You know that scene in "What Women Want" when Mel Gibson reads the thoughts of the women runner calculating what she can eat based on her exercise? That's my life.
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Killer robot posted:As I understand they're also "drug you go on for life" rather than "drug you go on while you lose the weight" which factors into long-term production needs. Yes. You need to stay on it permanently to keep the benefit. It's a once a week injection. If you can keep the weight off after you lose it, it doesn't magically reappear once you stop taking it. But, obviously, it is going to make it much more difficult and most people will default to their previous behavior/biological activity and gain it back over time.
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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1689315464017502208 Elon is so desperate for Trump to come back to twitter, it's really funny that he hasn't. There's only one reason you'd violate that order and that's so the big boy can know that you're loyle to your capo.
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Zotix posted:Edit: Again, for people with honest medical conditions I'm glad those are an option. This isn't the case for the average American though. They just want an easy instant or near instant solution to everything with minimal effort. Isn't that what everyone wants? Are there problems you face that you want to struggle with?
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edit: apparently I was a few pages behind when I started my rambling contribution to the stuff about capitalism and social isolation and the thread has since moved on, sorry! I'm leaving it here anyway. The multiplication and fragmentation of identity and discourse that unfolds under capitalism (largely but not entirely) due to the commodification of the very meaning frameworks people rely on for social cohesion is, imo, a substantial part of why we have more isolation. There's a lot of ideological mismatches which crop up as people consume and adopt narratives about the nature of social life and construct their own systems out of contradictory components. This ideological mismatch happens between individuals and institutions like religions too, causing friction and contributing to church attrition. On top of that, capital has commodified physical spaces in a way that has attracted a huge glut of investment capital and created a scenario where there's a high fiscal barrier to creating shared social spaces in many areas, especially around anything that's not directly encouraging 'economic activity'. Good luck starting the modern equivalent of something like an Elks Club or Mason lodge when it's over a million dollars for a 1000sq ft building! Then you get into the previously discussed counterfeiting/displacement of physical social activity (via gaming, media consumption, social media participation, etc.) which largely happens in the home or in shared-but-marginally-social spaces like movie theaters. Phone engagement moreover seems to reduce social interaction with proximal people even in explicitly social spaces like bars. More sinisterly, capitalism has commodified the dislike of 'other' as well as fear and mistrust in myriad ways. This has contributed to a general tenor of unease among some people about engaging outside their sphere. Something like fears of crime victimization sell security systems and true crime podcast patreon subs, but also create apprehension in getting to know ones neighbors - a situation that's devastating to forming community when housing/work is insecure and people need to relocate often. Discendo Vox posted:The serial killers all got too fat, couldn't chase their victims anymore. They spent too much time as cereal killers MixMasterMalaria fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1689315464017502208 Elon was fine with giving over the information requested in the search warrant, but wanted to be able to warn Trump and go public about being persecuted by the government for bringing free speech back to Twitter. quote:“Based on ex parte affidavits, the district court found probable cause to search the Twitter account for evidence of criminal offenses. Moreover, the district court found that there were ‘reasonable grounds to believe’ that disclosing the warrant to former President Trump ‘would seriously jeopardize the ongoing investigation’ by giving him ‘an opportunity to destroy evidence, change patterns of behavior, [or] notify confederates,’” the appeals court noted. quote:Twitter complained that the order violated the First Amendment and that the federal judge overseeing the matter at the time — U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell — should have blocked enforcement of the search warrant until the objection was resolved. The DOJ also couldn't get ahold of Elon because he disbanded the company's customer support and compliance departments after he took over and then tried to dodge getting served. Everything leaked about the early days of the Twitter takeover (and still today, honestly) is like something out of a parody script about Elon. He desperately wants to be seen as persecuted and is going to the mat harder for Trump than his own legal team. quote:The judges emphasized that the nondisclosure order was temporary and reasonably tailored to protect the significant probe. The company, they noted “remained free to raise general concerns about warrants or nondisclosure orders, and to speak publicly about the January 6 investigation.”
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OctaMurk posted:The Line (styled THE LINE; Arabic: ذا لاين) is a linear smart city under construction in Saudi Arabia in Neom, Tabuk Province, which is designed to have no cars, streets or carbon emissions. The 170-kilometre-long (110 mi) city is part of Saudi Vision 2030 project, which Saudi Arabia claims will create around 460,000 jobs and add an estimated $48 billion to the country's GDP. The Line is planned to be the first development of a $500 billion project in Neom. The city's plans anticipate a population of 9 million though Saudi Arabia has a population of 35.5 million. Excavation work had started along the entire length of the project by October 2022. I just find this funny because I’m a big fan of Spec Ops: The Line, a game where Dubai gets decimated by a massive persistent sandstorm and turns into an Apocalypse Now! hellhole. Yes, I know Dubai isn’t in SA.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I don’t know if it was ever confirmed, but allegedly Trump has some kind of exclusivity deal with TruthSocial It was confirmed. It was an 18-month exclusivity deal to not post on any other platforms, but it ended on June 22nd. He can post on Twitter now if he wants. quote:An 18-month exclusivity clause with Truth Social, which made the platform Trump’s primary social media outlet and gave it six-hour exclusivity on all posts from his personal handle, ended on June 22, 2023. Since then, neither the company nor Trump has announced an extension to this exclusivity deal, which likely means the former president is free to use Twitter however he wants. Aside from Truth Social, Trump has also been using his Instagram account occasionally to post campaign videos and photos—which was allowed under his exclusivity deal.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I don’t know if it was ever confirmed, but allegedly Trump has some kind of exclusivity deal with TruthSocial
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MixMasterMalaria posted:Does twitter save drafts of unsent tweets? Yep, you can go look at your drafts across devices so they’re being saved on their servers.
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selec posted:Yep, you can go look at your drafts across devices so they’re being saved on their servers. Iirc that was how Petraeus got caught in his affair (saved Gmail drafts)
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