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Slamhound posted:This is really interesting because the wave is Vir's answer to Morden's "What do you want?" So Vir also surrendered to his rage and need for revenge, thus damning Centauri Prime. This is a weird take. The only involvement Vir had with sentencing Morden to death was that Londo clearly heard about their little conversation. If Vir hadn’t told Morden to go die mad, Londo would have just killed him in a less entertaining way.
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In that scene where Vir and mr. Morden have that conversation, Vir doesn't seem particularly angry either, he was more making a point that he detests mr. Morden (perhaps for what he's doing to Londo or Centauri in general) and is making a somewhat philosophical and sarcastic remark about karma eventually catching up to assholes. Which, you know, also happens to Londo, so there you go, but I wouldn't say that Vir was engulfed with rage in that encounter. Of course I may have been bamboozled by Vir's generally cheery disposition  Was Vir Mephisto all along?
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Gyrotica posted:This is a weird take. The only involvement Vir had with sentencing Morden to death was that Londo clearly heard about their little conversation. If Vir hadn’t told Morden to go die mad, Londo would have just killed him in a less entertaining way. The interpretation I've seen is that everyone who answered Morden got what they asked for. Londo saw the Centauri stretch forth their hand and retake their place in the galaxy. G'Kar saw the Centauri crushed. Delenn saw Morden leave the room. And Vir got to wave at Morden's head. That clip ends just before the detail that took me years to notice: Vavrek posted:edit: Unrelated, I have noticed one of the greatest subtle details in this show.
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Vavrek posted:The interpretation I've seen is that everyone who answered Morden got what they asked for. Londo saw the Centauri stretch forth their hand and retake their place in the galaxy. G'Kar saw the Centauri crushed. Delenn saw Morden leave the room. And Vir got to wave at Morden's head. Yeah, that sounds like people got Morden confused with the genie from Wishmaster.
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Slamhound posted:This is really interesting because the wave is Vir's answer to Morden's "What do you want?" So Vir also surrendered to his rage and need for revenge, thus damning Centauri Prime. Eh, he had no agency at the time of Morden's death.
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I started streaming Babylon 5 episodes twice a week in a close knit Discord server, and a few of the people watching, are viewing the show for the first time ever. 
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It was the discord of great sadness. The discord of pain. And a discord of joy.
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The Discord Project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed.
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When he was talking to Vir, Morden wasn't sending out whatever vibes he did to G'kar and Londo and Delenn to get them to be candid about their darker impulses, but Vir did feel comfortable casually throwing out that he'd like to see Morden dead and his body desecrated for the same reason that Londo felt comfy dreaming of dark violent things, he thought he was in a dead end position with no worry of making anything happen. You'd think if killing Morden was going to be a big point, the decision to do it would've been covered instead of just cutting to after it's been done. Although it does make if funnier.
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I didn't mean to suggest either Vir or Morden had direct influence on what happened, rather that Morden's offer and Vir's response operated on the Ancient Greek prophetic level.
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Plus Morden's associates were listening in, as always.
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Midjack posted:The Shadows were already gone by then but maybe Morden could have kept the Drakh off their backs? The Drakh came to Centauri Prime in great part because Londo had been a disloyal servant. If he didn't turn on Morden and nuke the Isle of Selene, they probably wouldn't have felt the need to put a Keeper on him.
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SlothfulCobra posted:When he was talking to Vir, Morden wasn't sending out whatever vibes he did to G'kar and Londo and Delenn to get them to be candid about their darker impulses, but Vir did feel comfortable casually throwing out that he'd like to see Morden dead and his body desecrated for the same reason that Londo felt comfy dreaming of dark violent things, he thought he was in a dead end position with no worry of making anything happen. londo says "oh Mr Morden, i haven't even started with you yet" or something along those lines which pretty much indicates the decision had been made.
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Horizon Burning posted:londo says "oh Mr Morden, i haven't even started with you yet" or something along those lines which pretty much indicates the decision had been made. Yeah, were you expected a beheading and putting the head on a pike was going to be visualized in loving detail or something? On 1990s broadcast TV?
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Umm... my sabnzbd just sent me an email that The Road Home was just successfully downloaded. May have leaked early for those who shop in Sweden.
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Found a couple of clips from The Road Home floating about. Links only in case people don't want to see anything at all.
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It's around as  already.I liked it.
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The voices (for the original actors who have died) seem pretty on-point.
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Riven posted:S1E17 Legacies  Somebody remember to quote this post back to Riven when they get into season 4.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:The voices (for the original actors who have died) seem pretty on-point. They don't even know how to say pak'ma'ra. The only one who sounds kinda like the character is Zathras.
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Space Butler posted:It's around as This makes me feel better about this movie. Gonna watch it this morning, but I purchased the film on Amazon Prime already.
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Space Butler posted:It's around as As long as you buy it when you get the chance. Those sales are important.
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Okay had a chance to watch, it was okay! Big time nostalgia / what-if movie that is entirely for die hard Babylon 5 fans only. It helps that there is some good humor here. Especially if you like puns and dad jokes  Buy it if you're a fan.
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Jedit posted:As long as you buy it when you get the chance. Those sales are important. And stream it, they count the watch numbers.
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Grand Fromage posted:And stream it, they count the watch numbers. ooh right, im gonna have this on in the background non-stop 24/7
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Winifred Madgers posted:When is the official release? The 15th.
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Zathras [edit] poo poo sorry, I meant Zathras.
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MikusR posted:They don't even know how to say pak'ma'ra. The only one who sounds kinda like the character is Zathras. I don't know, i thought he sounded more like Zarhras. E: ^^^^^^ lmao same joke.
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Jedit posted:As long as you buy it when you get the chance. Those sales are important. Pre-ordered it weeks ago. Anyone else think that last couple of minutes was a really unsubtle setup for the reboot?
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Space Butler posted:Pre-ordered it weeks ago. No, I don't see any reason to think so. It would be very weird and nothing but unnecessary baggage if any potential reboot took that as its premise. Zat fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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I enjoyed it, I especially enjoyed Zathras making copyright jokes. It was a fun romp and nice to reminisce but I can't help but think it lacked what made B5 amazing (at least to me) and couldn't be done in this format/time, a long and intricate story with lots of payoffs and political drama. Glad I watched it, but maybe wasn't able to meet my internal hype for it. I'll stew on it and maybe find a different perspective later.
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I said come in! posted:Zathras SPOILERS!!
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Carbon dioxide posted:What is a Zathras? Well, Zathras is the glue that holds everyone together. But Zathras is just a dick.
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CainFortea posted:Well, Zathras is the glue that holds everyone together. You are not the one
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TraderStav posted:I enjoyed it, I especially enjoyed Zathras making copyright jokes. I've been an idiot in this thread before, so I figure I'm not losing any more face by asking what was the copyright Sheridan would've been infringing in that joke scene? He couldn't say time and space together?
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