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I just don't like that it's all but mutually exclusive with character progress. I'm not getting any usable gear hunting down these glands. Only so many of these NM dungeons are giving me rep that I need.
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bamhand posted:Maxing renown is like < 10% of my playtime this season. It wasn't great but overall not a big enough deal for me to care about. I had everything complete before I leveled to 60. Same. It sucked but it also was a nice change from running dungeons over and over but I also don't really want to do it again.
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This is a buff
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American McGay posted:If you're looking at anything other than the number on a sigil that's scrub behavior lol. Get good brother. its a bad idea for me to to run armor breakers as a hc barb lol
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coelomate posted:a plain white ring from the vendor is clvl 10 required. Great news: the seasonal quest both got me up to clvl 10 and dropped two equipabble blue rings. I was here to chew bubblegum and grind-Varshan-to-exploit-out-a-mountain-of-Barber-Hearts-before-Yesterday's-patch, and it looks like I'm all out of bubblegum.
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zoux posted:I just don't like that it's all but mutually exclusive with character progress. I'm not getting any usable gear hunting down these glands. Only so many of these NM dungeons are giving me rep that I need. If you do it either as you're leveling, or once you break into wt4, then you're at least still getting relevant XP and gear from it, even if it isn't as efficient as grinding dungeons or resetting strongholds or whatever. If you're trying to knock it out when you're level 55+ but not yet in WT4, however, it sucks out loud because yeah, you're getting basically zilch for XP. Which is funny, because the game initially locking the reward for renown tier 4 and 5 kinda make it seem like that's exactly when they want you to do it!
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Shredder posted:someone posted this earlier in the thread and it's cut down my inventory bullshit sorting time significantly This is a useful checklist for loot management. Thank you for sharing. GoGoGadgetChris posted:I like this handy guide for the top priority stat on a piece of gear, but I don't like the suggestion to delete something if it didn't drop naturally with the most important thing. Some of the best amulets you can hope for do not have cool down when they drop, because that's what you roll onto them I will keep this in mind Ornery and Hornery fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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They should make quest rewards scale, brain dead easy fix and also removes the insultingly bad design of poo poo like 1-2 veil crystals as a reward. I was leveling and doing side quests was a waste of time and effort beyond the renown because the reward would be something like 20k gold and 2k experience. "ah but all the xp you got killing monsters" every other activity has killing monsters. They're lazy placeholder values that weren't looked at for anything but playing the campaign for the first time. You could increase quest rewards by 10-20x and they'd be reasonable. A side quest is 1/30th to 1/15th of a level? Cool! 400k gold? A mere drop in the bucket for WT3 and beyond enchanting and reroll needs. 20 veiled crystals? GOOD. That covers the loot you're losing by not running a NMD in the same timeframe and mass salvaging everything that drops. Ah well, by S3 they'll have made renown carry over in full anyway.
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CBD Corndog posted:Its cool that every team at Blizzard has to keep learning the same lessons over and over again 
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bamhand posted:Maxing renown is like < 10% of my playtime this season. It wasn't great but overall not a big enough deal for me to care about. I had everything complete before I leveled to 60. I'm probably not the fastest player but I clocked it at around 3 hours per zone levelling just by doing the strongholds, very quick quests (someone made a list), the quests that lead to dungeons, and then a lap around the zone doing dungeons until I hit 2000 renown. I wish I'd timed individual dungeons because they are obviously not all equally fast to clear. This was with a necro so classes with movement abilities are going to be faster It's clearly not the fastest way to level, but I wanted to actually time it so I can compare it to levelling through the fastest methods and then blasting renown at high level when you have ancestral move speed boots and amulet and a bunch of CDR
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bamhand posted:Maxing renown is like < 10% of my playtime this season. It wasn't great but overall not a big enough deal for me to care about. I had everything complete before I leveled to 60. I finished it at 59, but that’s my highest char this season so 100% of my seasonal gameplay so far has been below 60.
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By all accounts it looks like we're going to be drowning in wrathfuls now. Someone on Reddit said that out of 20 Ravening Pit runs they got 9 wrathful hearts. So given that it seems like Barber is almost an inevitability now, what are some tips to make the best use of it? Seems like it needs a crit to kick off and does shadow damage? I wonder if +shadow damage affixes apply after the damage is all totaled up? Presumably it also plays well with shadow passives like Consuming Shadows? Edit: I wonder if Skyhunter would help or hinder? Guaranteed first hit Barber proc, but seems like it would prevent any chance of things like lucky hit bonuses. Edit2: Might need to get rid of knockback heart too. Edit3: Barber + trap taunt? Dr. Eldarion fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Tarnop posted:I'm probably not the fastest player but I clocked it at around 3 hours per zone levelling just by doing the strongholds, very quick quests (someone made a list), the quests that lead to dungeons, and then a lap around the zone doing dungeons until I hit 2000 renown. I wish I'd timed individual dungeons because they are obviously not all equally fast to clear. This was with a necro so classes with movement abilities are going to be faster That list is excellent, thanks for linking that. This will help me push through the last two areas where I need to finish renown, and having just exhausted all the Lyndon quests I'm finding the last bit of Hawezar really dragging. Dr. Eldarion posted:By all accounts it looks like we're going to be drowning in wrathfuls now. Someone on Reddit said that out of 20 Ravening Pit runs they got 9 wrathful hearts. I'm not sure I've paid much attention to elemental effects with the barber and my Necro, but so far it seems pretty amazing anytime I can drag a bunch of enemies together, because one of them exploding seems to trigger the rest of them and whole piles of mobs just disappear in the blink of an eye. So anything that can cluster mobs together is going to be awesome with the Barber.
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Dr. Eldarion posted:By all accounts it looks like we're going to be drowning in wrathfuls now. Someone on Reddit said that out of 20 Ravening Pit runs they got 9 wrathful hearts. stack a bunch of crit damage, which is basically what everyone does anyway. crit chance not important if you don't get it already
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lol man, drat. rogues break lilith even harder than blizzard spikes sorc did in the preseason. you just press concealment when she flies to break a platform segment and...nothing happens. the platform doesn't break. the blisters don't shoot the skulls at you. lmao.
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bamhand posted:Maxing renown is like < 10% of my playtime this season. It wasn't great but overall not a big enough deal for me to care about. I had everything complete before I leveled to 60. It's annoying and dumb. It needs to include world events, cellars, actual loving seasonal content. Do world bosses even count for renown?
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Dr. Eldarion posted:So given that it seems like Barber is almost an inevitability now, what are some tips to make the best use of it? Pulling and grouping monsters, 100%. Obviously crit chance on your gear and where you can from skills, but the big boom comes from tightly packed mobs. Corpse vine, grasping WW, druid vacuum ult heart, etc. Avoid trample and other knock back skillsthat are now big anti-synergistic
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Soonmot posted:It's annoying and dumb. It needs to include world events, cellars, actual loving seasonal content. Do world bosses even count for renown? Nope. Only whats listed on the sheet (dungeons/sidequests/strongholds/waypoints) then the stuff that carries over (exploration/statues).
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Renown is finite. There is a specific checklist of things that you do, and you get renown for checking off the box There are no endlessly renewable sources of Renown
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I expect next season we'll see something like waypoint unlocks carry over and maybe renown from the season mechanic and nightmare dungeon completion.
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You probably want your barber around 2.8 or 2.9 seconds to synergize with exploit glyphs vuln too?
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Is there any reliable way to find Helltide Commanders for the season journey requirement? Riding around on my horse like an idiot bumblebee from event location to event location seems to just give me the same half dozen caravan defense / malignant pustule / siphons of whatever type events. Have only stumbled across the portal event that produces the Commanders by luck so far
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Renown is garbage at least make the obols the fifth one instead of the useful reward. They keep this or else you'd just be grinding the same dungeons from 1-100 though but that's a them problem really
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Incremus posted:Is there any reliable way to find Helltide Commanders for the season journey requirement? Riding around on my horse like an idiot bumblebee from event location to event location seems to just give me the same half dozen caravan defense / malignant pustule / siphons of whatever type events. Have only stumbled across the portal event that produces the Commanders by luck so far I knocked it out in like 3 helltides just riding around doing normal cinder gathering stuff. The assassin guy counts too I believe. You're going to complete that one WAAAY before you get 15 world bosses, hit 100, or kill Lilith.
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Incremus posted:Is there any reliable way to find Helltide Commanders for the season journey requirement? Riding around on my horse like an idiot bumblebee from event location to event location seems to just give me the same half dozen caravan defense / malignant pustule / siphons of whatever type events. Have only stumbled across the portal event that produces the Commanders by luck so far Kixxarth counts. You will also see them in the big tornado event.
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CBD Corndog posted:Its cool that every team at Blizzard has to keep learning the same lessons over and over again bold of you to assume they're learning anything and not just reacting to the fallout of whatever their latest fuckup was
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:1.1.2 patch announced as coming "very soon." I've gotten more wrathful invokers in 2-3 NM dungeons just now (2) than I had prior to this for the entirety of the season,
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are there any other "while injured" conditions that reward you for being in that state other than damage reduction while injured? barbarian heart sorta but thats all can think of
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I've gotten more wrathful invokers in 2-3 NM dungeons just now (2) than I had prior to this for the entirety of the season, Yeah, I had two drop in the last Helltide I did. Helltides are really fun now. XP is probably a bit worse than running NDs but it scratches the mindless grinding itch of D3’s rifts.
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Tainen posted:Yeah, I had two drop in the last Helltide I did. It's like 1/10th the XP of nightmare dungeons for me. e: OK I did an actual test and it was more like 1/2-2/3 the XP of a dungeon. Not as bad as I thought. I got about 1.7M from a DM dungeon in 10 minutes and 1M from Helltide in 10 minutes with 1 mystery chest. bamhand fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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wait wait, they removed the priority enchanting mechanism!? what the gently caress?
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Don Dongington posted:If you're running a standard Rogue TB or Flurry build, you probably don't have the skill on your bars to unload it - but it doesn't matter, the flat damage reduction makes it extremely valuable, especially at higher level content. I am using trap/imbuements so it goes off regularly. What I'm wondering about is if the DR is always there if you don't set off the explosion ie is there a limit as to how much it will absorb. Because it says the damage received is amplified by 250% and then does like 30k damage - which could imply it isn't absorbing very much before it hits a total that then needs "emptying" before the DR starts up again.
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Verviticus posted:wait wait, they removed the priority enchanting mechanism!? what the gently caress? It's either good or bad depending on the slot and the roll you want, but is a net Improvement from what I've experienced
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Tainen posted:Yeah, I had two drop in the last Helltide I did. Do Helltides level with you, I'm about to hit 72 and I love them and never want to stop.
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Soonmot posted:Do Helltides level with you, I'm about to hit 72 and I love them and never want to stop. yes
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:It's either good or bad depending on the slot and the roll you want, but is a net Improvement from what I've experienced if you knew what stats were priority is pretty much always a downgrade. finding a ring with 3 good stats and no crit means you found a 4 stat ring. if you find boots without move speed you can trash them b/c MS wasn’t prio. the solution probably should have been to keep stat prio in, make it basic stuff that every build wants (MS on boots, CDR on neck, cost reduction on head), and then add a third option on rerolls at the enchanter also holy poo poo the horse is so much faster on controller now. i don’t know how anyone could have had any doubts about mkb being faster if they ever used both
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Verviticus posted:wait wait, they removed the priority enchanting mechanism!? what the gently caress? fun was detected
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No longer having a 100% chance to roll crit on rings is making the loot treadmill way more frustrating for me. I picked up a 2/4 umbral with a middling vuln roll and was hoping to keep it until an ancestral with at least 2 of crit dmg / chance / vuln /max life and the right socket dropped, but I ended up having to extract it. 5 mins later I gambled a 4/4 though so I guess it's cool.
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It’s better lol. You can more easily roll movespeed onto boots now etc. the biggest down case is crit on rings not being guaranteed essentially but almost every other item slot is benefitting here
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Tiny Timbs posted:Kixxarth counts. You will also see them in the big tornado event. bamhand posted:I knocked it out in like 3 helltides just riding around doing normal cinder gathering stuff. The assassin guy counts too I believe. You're going to complete that one WAAAY before you get 15 world bosses, hit 100, or kill Lilith. Thanks, complaining online did the trick per usual. Found two tornadoes in the next Helltide I ran and got it knocked out
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