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Lostconfused posted:This is why everyone keeps telling you that you need to warm up before doing any straneous exercise. The Gulf War and the first part of the Iraq War were still fought using Cold War inventories and Cold War force structures. If you go back, all of the think tank people were relentlessly critical of this, calling for a more modern, sleeker, lighter, military. Seriously, it was a boutique publishing industry from about 1999-201X. Well, the problem is that as Cold War equipment wore out, they got their way, and voila. We would have to rely on new equipment and new structures - like replacing the entire rear echelon with contractors - and it turns out, none of that actually worked, it's just that Afghanistan was a low enough threat environment that it was never really tested while everyone was getting rich off of it.
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Frosted Flake posted:The Gulf War and the first part of the Iraq War were still fought using Cold War inventories and Cold War force structures. If you go back, all of the think tank people were relentlessly critical of this, calling for a more modern, sleeker, lighter, military. Seriously, it was a boutique publishing industry from about 1999-201X. It worked in that the military spending as a portion of US GDP was cut roughly in half from the mid-late 1980s up to the late 1990s and early 2000s, and despite that, the country didn't blow up or die.* Did Canada replace the "entire rear echelon with contractors?" That wasn't a thing that happened in the US military. I'm not confident that Afghanistan or the Iraq "rebuilding plan," which wasn't one, would have gone any better if the US was still sitting on even more tactical fighters and larger tank formations. I guess there's an argument to be made that if the US in the 1990s wanted to hurry up and get ready for asking for a Cold War but with China this time, they could have rapidly retooled for an air/sea fight, but that would be both expensive and require all sorts of hindsight plus require the expenses and the hindsight to be paired with a hawkish outlook. Kind of a weird counterfactual. *I mean, arguably, the 1980s-2000s did destroy the US in a lot of ways, but it wasn't because there weren't enough tank brigades training in California.
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mlmp08 posted:Did Canada replace the "entire rear echelon with contractors?" That wasn't a thing that happened in the US military. Hyperbole (ὑπερβολή, superlatio) is a deliberately exaggerated phrase: quod erit vobis luce clarius, iudices, tum cum eos ipsos produxero qui dederunt (‘‘it will be clearer than light [i.e., crystal clear] to you, judges, when I have called those who have paid,’’ Cic. Verr. 2.2.186).
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Frosted Flake posted:Hyperbole (ὑπερβολή, superlatio) is a deliberately exaggerated phrase: quod erit vobis luce clarius, iudices, tum cum eos ipsos produxero qui dederunt (‘‘it will be clearer than light [i.e., crystal clear] to you, judges, when I have called those who have paid,’’ Cic. Verr. 2.2.186). lol
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LMAO at licensing canvas tarps and These https://canopiesandtarps.com/canopy-fittings.html. 
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mlmp08 posted:ROCAF with Mavericks
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mlmp08 posted:Did Canada replace the "entire rear echelon with contractors?" That wasn't a thing that happened in the US military. wow not literally 100% of functions? looks like the MIC triumphs over disinformation again
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Canada replaced most of their rear echelon with contractors to show they could replace the rest of their rear echelon with contractors, if they wanted to
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Best Friends posted:wow not literally 100% of functions? looks like the MIC triumphs over disinformation again The lion’s share of US forces are logistical support. The big US cut was in combat units and then putting some of logistical support into the guard and reserve, cause you need those for combat but you don’t really need all of your fuel movers, supply teams, truckers, and earth movers sitting around on snap orders, just in case. A lot of that can go into reserves. All of this resulted in mil spending dropping by about 50% relative to GDP from the 80s to the late 90s/2000s. So yes, certainly made the US less able to execute something at the scale of WW3 in Europe or even the Gulf War… but so what? That would have been pretty wasteful to keep funding all of that just for the sake of having a massive standing military sitting in the states. I would think it would be good that when the cold war ended, the MIC didn’t get to maintain cold war spending levels.
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"access to food" jesus christ the shitlibbery is endemic
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gently caress/marry/kill flogger, tornado and f111
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lmao only two dfacs open in a base as large as that. Also this isnt the first case of soldiers getting hosed with their food, there was another case less than a month ago! https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2023/07/14/fort-knox-cadets-taste-army-life-walkouts-expired-mres-water-issues/
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you would think the one thing america would be able to do is feed people burger
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Cao Ni Ma posted:lmao only two dfacs open in a base as large as that. Also this isnt the first case of soldiers getting hosed with their food, there was another case less than a month ago! um excuse me quote:“U.S. Army Cadet Command leaders, soldiers, and civilian staff responded to challenges within hours and returned to a normal feeding schedule, checked multiple lots of MREs and, even an interruption in the local water supply was something that Cadet Command’s leaders and logisticians overcame so rapidly that training was not affected and our cadets and cadre were kept safe,” Patterson said. maybe we should give these guys medals???
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Megamissen posted:you would think the one thing america would be able to do is feed people burger Lockheed has invented an advanced technology that enables soldiers to get fat and die even while starving to death
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Megamissen posted:you would think the one thing america would be able to do is feed people burger that's because the lion’s share of US forces are logistical support
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lol Audit of the Military Service Recruiting Organizations’ Efforts to Screen Applicants for Extremist and Criminal Gang Behavior (DODIG-2023-103) www.dodig.mil posted:Publicly Released: August 7, 2023
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The military is filled with Nazis, who could have guessed
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Sorry, you failed the criminal gang screening; we need people with relevant experience 
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:Sorry, you failed the criminal gang screening; we need people with relevant experience why do you even need plebs to join when you can shove more generals into the 100+ generals club in JSOC?
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AbramseX 🤣
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Cyber tank by Tesla. Lovingly hand crafted from the finest Chinese components. Smoke launchers on the turret arranged in a classic goatse array.
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lol Twilight 2000 predicted this way back in the 1980s
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Mister Bates posted:lol Twilight 2000 predicted this way back in the 1980s Their Abhrams "Giraffe" looked much funnier
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That's not an Abrams, just look at how tiny that turret is
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Lostconfused posted:That's not an Abrams, just look at how tiny that turret is You really got to see it from profile 
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mawarannahr posted:lol The recruiters just passed it through because of course they did, they lied to the recruit so why not lie to the military and push those numbers
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It's not as cool as the space nazi tank where the turret was also a plane
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Lostconfused posted:It's not as cool as the space nazi tank where the turret was also a plane 
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Broke: MechWarrior future Woke: Heavy Gear future
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Unlike battlemechs, gears make sense because they can go prone and have really good operational mobility with their roller skate feet
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Slavvy posted:Unlike battlemechs, gears make sense because they can go prone and have really good operational mobility with their roller skate feet if wheels are so good than why does nature ahbor it checkmate tankies
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speaking of, many people have probably read about the planthopper insect that has interlocking gears for super jumping. I am imagining clockwork creatures with differential gears and flywheels and poo poo several hundred million years from now. Or things even stranger than I can imagine. good job nature, keep evolving stuff palindrome has issued a correction as of 10:45 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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