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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:IlClan era? Oh man, I hope that means Republic 'mechs and Nova Cat mechs like the Cave Lion get a mini... Munchkin. I bet you like Davion 'Mechs like the Warlord too Not a real White Hat BT Faction player until you run the Sagittaire with the LB-X ACs. Bear that cross! Bear it right now!!
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:is syllogy's stuff considered files? he's got a huge inventory of stls. he makes the models from scratch based on the video game versions. here's the imp Yes. The BattleTech miniatures license is with Topps/Iron Wind Metals/Catalyst. Technically the MWO rips are  too(edit: prints of, not actually the files themselves), because PGI doesn't have the miniatures rights to authorize printing them. There's a legally ambiguous zone if you're printing them for your own personal use, but the minute you're buying them (or more accurately, the moment someone sells them or even gives them away) it's a license violation.3rd party .stls are universally license violations. I'm deliberately not assigning any moral value to anything above, mind you, just providing background and context.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:CGL are working on a new line of faction specific force boxes to go with the new faction books, and Scroggins mentioned in an interview with Big Red 40Tech that they're doing both Clan Invasion and IlClan era mechs. So we might be getting some of the newer Liao designs in plastic in the next couple years. I am praying for Sea Fox and Capellan Confederation boxes. I want a Tiburon and a Duan Gung so bad.
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Is the normal standard 4/5? I'm only really getting into playing nowadays.
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I looked through Iron Wind, and feel free to img-timeline me for this, but they all look incredibly doofy
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Flipswitch posted:Is the normal standard 4/5? I'm only really getting into playing nowadays. That's the default. But if everyone agrees on using the same value of pilots you don't need to bother adjusting your BV.
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Flipswitch posted:Is the normal standard 4/5? I'm only really getting into playing nowadays. 4/5 is the default, in the sense that it's the assumed gunnery and piloting for any unit in the absence of deliberately changing them. YMMV on whether that's where you want to play your games (I tend to play 4/5 for most things).
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Flipswitch posted:Is the normal standard 4/5? I'm only really getting into playing nowadays. I personally feel BattleTech (and Alpha Strike) work best at g3/p4 (for game length especially, 4/5s can have trouble finishing things off); but 4/5 is the assumed default everyone's just a little bit worse without being so much worse that the game turns frustrating. 5/6 leads to both sides parking in trees and lobbing shots at each other because they can't move and shoot; and 7/8s (the "never piloted a BattleMech before and the neurohelmet isn't properly tuned" statline) can't reliably hit each other even standing still. Which can make for a fun GMed experience because ever shot winds up a prayer for boxcars and golden bbs. 
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Gunnery in the 6-7 range seems great for cannon fodder vehicles piloted by local militia in a campaign
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a cyborg mug posted:Gunnery in the 6-7 range seems great for cannon fodder vehicles piloted by local militia in a campaign Firing a homing Arrow IV missile doesn't require a gunnery check, just saying. Modern day equivalent of grabbing some illiterate peasant, sticking him in an MLRS and telling him to "press this button when the commander yells at you" Saint Celestine fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:IlClan era? Oh man, I hope that means Republic 'mechs and Nova Cat mechs like the Cave Lion get a mini... Yeah Scroggins said that most of the new IlClan era mechs in the TROs are made by the Sea Foxes and it isn't clear yet which new mechs the other factions like to buy. So the factional mechs will be mostly from Dark Age era.
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Well now I have to look at who's building what new designs Wolf Dominator Sojourner* Crucible Stormwolf Ryoken III Alpha Wolf Callisto Jade Falcon Hierofalcon Ion Sparrow Jade Phoenix Hellcat Stormbird Lyran Commonwealth Sojourner* Rawhide Nova Cat Shadow Cat 3* Draconis Combine Shadow Cat 3* Cricket Fujin Kamisori Sea Fox Thresher 2 Hammerhead Firestorm Amarok Regent Onuris Snow Raven War Crow Devil Carrion Crow White Raven Iron Cheetah FedSuns Inferno Whirlwind Viper CapCon Lightning FWL Eris Ghost Bear Rime Otter Mastadon Kontio Hell's Horses Doom Courser Elemental III Eurus Goliath Scorpion Star Python Star Crusader Fronc Reaches (!) Tinstar Unaligned Dragoon Harrier There's a couple designs I marked with asterixes because the majority of examples are not with the people who currently control the factory. And all the Falcon stuff is under new management too. Anyway, in summary, the FWL got done dirty.
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The FWL's getting sick Clan tech upgrades and that's just fine by me (I am still a very casual FWL player)
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Defiance Industries posted:the FWL got done dirty. That's always been the case. The Havoc was their best new 'Mech since the Wraith and it's basically just a knockoff Jenner.
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PoptartsNinja posted:That's always been the case. This Is Juliano erasure. Edit: the Quasimodo is sick as hell too but that's just my VSPL obsession. raverrn fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Got one in my 2nd Donegal's Marik opfor lance. I briefly thought about using a Gambit instead but I couldn't fit a duster on it.
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I forget the FWL exists sometimes tbh I should read more about them
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Regulus is always right.
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Playing against 16 Urbies was less fun than you would think. He took the R69 variant, so everything did 3 damage at Medium, which meant that I could either advance and instantly die or stay at range and plunk away for 2-3 damage a turn hoping for the best. I went with the latter because I would prefer not to lose on turn 2.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Regulus is always right. They figured out that they should be buying Lyran guns, good on them.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Regulus is always right.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Playing against 16 Urbies was less fun than you would think. He took the R69 variant, so everything did 3 damage at Medium, which meant that I could either advance and instantly die or stay at range and plunk away for 2-3 damage a turn hoping for the best. It would have saved you a bunch of time at least.
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Was it a "I bet 16 urbies can beat any eight 'Mechs you bring" situation? If it was, that sounds like
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Bet it had something to do with a dozen eggs in a carton, or something. idk. that just popped into my head
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Wonder when someone's gonna bring back the Celestials. yeah blah blah synonymous with warcrimes you figure its been 70 years there'd be inner sphere equivalent of king tiger-obsessed wehraboos.
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Maybe in the Inner Sphere they have the good sense just to gun them down in the street the first time they open their mouths about "Clean Protectorate Militia" I criticize the Combine a lot but they 100% do that there.
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Nah it was just a dude who wanted to field 16 urbanmechs. I could bring whatever I wanted, but it wasn't a challenge. I got extremely lucky in the objective we rolled (VPs = size of every mech killed or crippled, first to 10 wins). I only lost my Axman because he wanted to ax, but he died from concentrated fire on turn 1 and I said nuts to that. Crab, Archer, Blackjack, Rampage, Phoenix Hawk, and Warhammer handled it from range. The Wraith slipped in and out and relied on its TMM of 3 plus jump jets to avoid dying. Any other objective and I'd have been skunked.
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 Found a Neuschwanstein 3d puzzle at Salvation Army for $3. Worth it. This turned out great - fun with my whole family playing with an invading Clan force targeting three objectives of the Royal Palace (Spaceport, Power Generator, Royal Family in the courtyard) against a defending Inner Sphere force. The Clanners pulled it off at the expense of most of their force - only the Thor and Daishi were left standing, with the Thor landing killing blows on all three objectives while being chased! a real MVP. Still, a pyrrhic victory.. Clans: Daishi Thor Vulture (Destroyed) Cougar (Destroyed) Nova (Destroyed) Elementals (Blasted apart by the Awesome) IS: Awesome Catapult Centurion (Destroyed) Thanatos (Destroyed) Uziel Archer     
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PoptartsNinja posted:That's always been the case. This is extremely not the case if you're looking at new production or new variants of older mechs. The FWL (through the Clan Protectorate inside FWL borders, but also local production elsewhere) gets an absolute murderers row of good designs in the RecGuides including but not limited to: Supernova 5 Huntsman Shadow Cat Regent Rifleman 7N2 Shadow Hawk 7H Cicada 4A Black Knight 18 Hermes II 7A Phoenix Hawk 9 Trebuchet 9N Ostsol C Awesome 11H Basically if there's a sick new variant of a classic mech, the answer to "does the FWL get this?" is yes more often than it is no. I will also not stand for this Juliano slander, that mech fuckin' whips.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Wonder when someone's gonna bring back the Celestials. Aren't random people with prosthetics still getting lynched in uncivilized places like the FedSuns?
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Strobe posted:This is extremely not the case if you're looking at new production or new variants of older mechs. The FWL (through the Clan Protectorate inside FWL borders, but also local production elsewhere) gets an absolute murderers row of good designs in the RecGuides including but not limited to: The only thing on that list that's a new design that they manufacture is the regent, and they don't actually build that loving thing. Both Technitron and CMW decided to enter into an incredibly humiliating arrangement where they just get to build the frame and are expected to treat the design as a flagship for their companies.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Wonder when someone's gonna bring back the Celestials. The Blessed order made the Kheper and the Uraeus which were based on the celestials until they were genocided by the Republic. And then the Republic started manufacturing them en masse.   And then the Dracs have the Tenshi which is so closely based on the celestials that its silhouette triggers PTSD flashbacks in enemy mechwarriors.  e. that's five light PPCs in the right arm NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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So uh. How do you fight stuff like the butcherbird that jumps a ridiculous 10? drat thing is near unhittable.
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The Free Worlds League has the prosthetics hatred, not the Fed Suns.
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Saint Celestine posted:So uh. How do you fight stuff like the butcherbird that jumps a ridiculous 10? drat thing is near unhittable. Conventionally: pulse lasers, precision autocannon ammo, targeting computers or AES, improved gunnery skills, biting the bullet and standing still to get good numbers on it with weapons that have large short ranges. Actual answer: artillery or bombs Alternate: literally just ignore it, it's a 20 tonner that dedicates almost half its tonnage to jump MP. Even the most dangerous one is an ankle biter at best.
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Defiance Industries posted:Well now I have to look at who's building what new designs It will always be absolute bullshit that Clan Wolf was able to produce so many new designs after a huge rear end migration where they left most of their poo poo behind, and that CJF continues to technologically innovate while they go 200% Smoke Jaguar. quote:
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WDYM, it's not like they killed all their scientists or anything
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I've never heard of this mech, which is a shame, because this is the best named mech.
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Granted if you were only using the RecGuides then that makes sense, but I'm sure they'll pull from the 3145 TROs too. Granted, the one restriction that seems to be in place like in RecGuide Classics is that the faction has to exist in both CI and iC eras.
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