USCE 2023: Please let them shove a camera up your butt

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kdrudy: Sep 19, 2009

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

Trying to imagine Trump's Big Beautiful Cities. Mandatory casinos at the center of town? Busses are illegal? Located as far as possible from anywhere anyone would want to live?

Dystopian 1985 Hill Valley all the way.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 04:21

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# ? May 25, 2024 07:37

Fork of Unknown Origins: Oct 21, 2005; Gotta Herd On?

Charlz Guybon posted:

Yeah, but if you separately kill four people the odds of you going uncaught go down to 6.25%. If you kill another after that they go down to 3.125%, etc...

Not really though, because most murders are pretty easy to solve since it�s usually someone killing someone they know like a spouse. Or an immediate act of rage where it�s obvious who did it. If someone was following the typical serial killer MO of picking targets they don�t know I think they could go on a lot longer.

I do think it�s harder to get away with than in the 70s but I also think other things have changed. Less lead, fewer unwanted babies, fewer people growing up in the unfathomable poverty some of those serial killers came from. And a host of other factors I�m sure.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 04:35

Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

Killer robot posted:

Maybe I'm wrong but the typical profiles and motivations seem different enough that I'm skeptical that most of them "just gotta kill" in a way that serial or parallel killing can just substitute for each other.

Spree shooters are more the American equivalent of suicide bombers, it's stochastic terrorism from freely unchecked white supremacy.

Probably had it right that if you want to be a serial killer nowadays you can just become a cop and get paid for it.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 04:48

VideoGameVet: May 14, 2005; It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Mirotic posted:

Yes, bodies remember that.

On top of this being an extremely difficult thing to do because bodies are built to keep you alive, calorie deprivation is thus a Major Problem, and your body will change its endocrine signals literally to make you eat more, there are a LOT of medications where weight gain is a side effect, to the tune of about 1/5 of US adults taking at least one drug that can cause it.

Fat people have always existed, "just lose the weight/calories in calories out ez pz" is bullshit, and for those who struggle with weight / fatphobia, I recommend checking out HAES (health at every size).

In other news so I don't eat a probe on this derail, but that poo poo is important to me, a new COVID variant is on the rise with some extra immune escape.

Not to mention a permanent reduction in basal metabolism, in my case about 500 calories. Well documented in the NYT piece on the aftermath of "The Biggest Loser" TV show.

The only good thing about that is I can do marathon cycling events (200km in a day) with modest food intake and not bonk.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 05:24

VideoGameVet: May 14, 2005; It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Prism posted:

In Russia?

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-build-village-catholic-christian-americans-tired-liberals-claim-lawyer-2023-5

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1689328002125934593?s=20

# ? Aug 10, 2023 05:31

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

BiggerBoat posted:

Pretty sure his only plan for these Conservatopia cities is to have the biggest buildings. With at least one taller than the Dubai Tower.

No, it's been a talking point on the right for a while to do this by selling off public lands.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 05:48

Zachack: Jun 1, 2000

Killer robot posted:

Maybe I'm wrong but the typical profiles and motivations seem different enough that I'm skeptical that most of them "just gotta kill" in a way that serial or parallel killing can just substitute for each other.

Killing is a dirty act, and in the end if you want to feel dirty then serial or parallel can get you pretty SCSI.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 06:11

Staluigi: Jun 22, 2021

Serial killing? in this economy?

# ? Aug 10, 2023 06:15

Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

The idea of building entire new cities is a fun thing to float but a lot funnier to imagine trying to do when the mainstream ruling ideologies can't even conceive of building basic infrastructure anymore. Much like the petrostate failson vanity projects, the only viable outcomes are giant useless dicks and a festival of grift.

And also come to think of it, there's absolutely no way any progress is gonna be made on obesity without solving all the other massive problems with healthcare.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 06:31

predicto: Jul 22, 2004; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

zoux posted:

His poasts:
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1689351235139182592

In his 70s huh? I wonder what his Free Republic username was

# ? Aug 10, 2023 08:17

Bellmaker: Oct 18, 2008; Chapter DOOF

Woolie Wool posted:

A lot of serial killers were terrorists who targeted sex workers, black people, horny teenagers, and other people reactionaries hate.

Yeah like I said they're cops now.

So this isn't completely blank holy poo poo Maui looks like the apocalypse.

https://twitter.com/claudia5809/status/1689547172218609664

https://twitter.com/edgarrmcgregor/status/1689284636361248768

The last place I would expect to see climate change-affected wildfires is Hawai'i of all place :stonk:

Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Aug 10, 2023

# ? Aug 10, 2023 12:49

Captain Duvel: Dec 14, 2009

I have got to take a break lurking this thread for the sake of my mental state. Weed can only help so much.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 13:14

Stabbey_the_Clown: Sep 21, 2002; Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?; Taco Defender

Despite being surrounded by ocean and getting a lot of rain, parts of the islands are actually quite dry. I think it has to do with a combination of the prevailing winds which blow rain storms and the rainshadow produced by the volcanic peaks. And also because of the change of the seasons moving heat around, they only get most of their rain at certain points of the year.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 13:15

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

When I visited Maui in 2014 I was surprised how much of the central and western parts of the island are just grassland. It�s more of the eastern side that is a rainforest.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 13:28

Kaiju Cage Match: Nov 5, 2012

Danknificent posted:

No one wants to serial kill anymore

We used to be a proper country.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 13:34

Mellow Seas: Oct 9, 2012; Can't post for 10 years!

Were 1970s-90s serial killers an American phenomenon or were they worldwide? Obviously, one of the most famous serial killers was in England, but he's old-timey...

I suppose it could've also been an Anglophone phenomenon, as we all tend to share a lot of the same problems. (Maybe using a homophone of "cereal" in our language just makes it sound too delicious.)

# ? Aug 10, 2023 13:50

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Mellow Seas posted:

Were 1970s-90s serial killers an American phenomenon or were they worldwide? Obviously, one of the most famous serial killers was in England, but he's old-timey...

I suppose it could've also been an Anglophone phenomenon, as we all tend to share a lot of the same problems. (Maybe using a homophone of "cereal" in our language just makes it sound too delicious.)

If you see it as an Anglophone phenomenon that would only be because of availability bias from english-language news sources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_serial_killers

# ? Aug 10, 2023 13:53

Mellow Seas: Oct 9, 2012; Can't post for 10 years!

Tiny Timbs posted:

If you see it as an Anglophone phenomenon that would only be because of availability bias from english-language news sources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_serial_killers

Well yeah I was curious, I'm not "into" serial killers so I don't know much; it seemed like the kind of thing America could have been exceptional at (I... guess I'm glad it's not?) but god drat, that is a lot of Russian serial killers.

Now I'm wondering if any countries had as many as the US and USSR and thinking if maybe the constant threat of nuclear annihilation, in the wake of a war that killed 100 million people, leads to a subconscious cheapening of life that might push some otherwise-marginal people into these behaviors. I think we are actually going through a minor version of that right now with all the death we experienced in 2020-2022, hence the upticks in violent crime.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 13:59

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Charlz Guybon posted:

Yeah, but if you separately kill four people the odds of you going uncaught go down to 6.25%. If you kill another after that they go down to 3.125%, etc...

OctaMurk posted:

Theres likely a lot of easy to solve murders by people bad at murdering, and then some number of murders by people who are good at murdering and dont leave a lot evidence. I dont think every murder is just some coinflip where it gets solved or not.

According to the FBI, most unsolved murders since 1980 are shootings related to drug or gang activity. So, there are still "serial killers," but they aren't what you would picture as typical serial killers (totally random victims).

According to the data, the best way to get away with multiple murders is to shoot people you are not related to or don't know personally who work in the drug or organized crime industry (or who are innocent bystanders near people who work in those industries) because they are unlikely to report it and the police are less likely to solve it because of the enormous amount of potential suspects and low pressure to solve it.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 14:02

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/petestrzok/status/1689588957808398336

Maybe the issue is that Supreme Court Justices get too much PTO.

Anyway, deploy the conservative op ed strike force to argue how this is all fine, just fine.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 14:15

Angry_Ed: Mar 30, 2010; Grimey Drawer

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/petestrzok/status/1689588957808398336

Maybe the issue is that Supreme Court Justices get too much PTO.

Anyway, deploy the conservative op ed strike force to argue how this is all fine, just fine.

Wonder what the odds are that one of those conservative op-eds will ask why the liberals who argue for more vacation time for workers suddenly take issue with a Supreme Court Justice having so much time off.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 14:20

Owling Howl: Jul 17, 2019

zoux posted:

Maybe the issue is that Supreme Court Justices get too much PTO.

Anyway, deploy the conservative op ed strike force to argue how this is all fine, just fine.

Oh man, if he ever used a teleprompter he's done for.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 14:23

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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The full charging document and social media account for the guy in Utah killed by the FBI for planning to assassinate Alvin Bragg and making threats to kill Biden is out.

Spoilering some of it because his facebook page includes pictures of exploded heads.

The full court filing includes 37 pages of posts where he plans out how he will assassinate Alvin Bragg and Leticia Wright, racial slurs, and pictures of him in a ghillie suit, with many guns, saying his preparing himself to go to New York to kill them.

The threats against Biden are less specific and don't include detailed plans to assassinate him and just imply that he is going to shoot him with a Sniper Rifle on August 10th when he comes to Utah.

Full court filing (does not include the gore pictures, but does include some slurs and detailed assassination plans):

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/court-complaint-against-craig-robertson/7a7e9ff71b2a0d3d/full.pdf

Some examples of his posts detailing his armory and plans for assassination. Spoilered because one of the pictures is a collection of thumbnail previews of his posts and it includes a thumbnail of someone's head being blown open after being shot. You can't see the detailed pictures and it's just one tiny thumbnail that is in the middle of a group of 40 thumbnails, but still pretty gross.

https://twitter.com/cscnme/status/1689371120246403072

He had also been visited by the FBI in 2012 for making threats against Obama and it was determined that he was potentially dangerous, but there was nothing actionable about his threats. He didn't start posting detailed assassination plans until 2023. That is also why he has Facebook posts about knowing the FBI is monitoring him and threatening to kill FBI agents if they come to his house again.

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/petestrzok/status/1689588957808398336

Maybe the issue is that Supreme Court Justices get too much PTO.

I'm being told this is actually fine because it is just a bunch of conservative billionaires paying for all his stuff because he has had a crazy judicial philosophy for four decades and not people who have active cases in front of the Supreme Court. Also, the disclosure rules for Supreme Court justices are self-enforced, so he only broke Supreme Court ethics guidelines and not any laws. Those were made to be broken anyway.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Aug 10, 2023

# ? Aug 10, 2023 14:35

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The threats against Biden are less specific and don't include detailed plans to assassinate him and just imply that he is going to shoot him with a Sniper Rifle on August 10th when he comes to Utah.

That still seems pretty specific lol

# ? Aug 10, 2023 14:42

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Failed Imagineer posted:

That still seems pretty specific lol

It is still pretty specific, lol. But, it is MUCH less specific than his plans for Alvin Bragg and Leticia James.

For those he basically wrote when he was leaving, what parking garage he would wait in, what type of gun he would use, how he would shoot him, and how long he would stand over the body to remember the kill before leaving.

These phrases from the filing are also kind of hilarious because they are extremely lawyer-ly written descriptions of wild death threats.

quote:

I believe DEMOCRAT ERADICATOR refers to the pictured semi-automatic rifle as an instrument used to cause death to persons belonging to the Democratic Party.

quote:

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Aug 10, 2023

# ? Aug 10, 2023 14:44

Baronash: Feb 29, 2012; So what do you want to be called?

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The full court filing includes 37 pages of posts where he plans out how he will assassinate Alvin Bragg and Leticia Wright

For anyone confused, as I was, as to why the list of targets was Joe Biden, the Manhattan DA, and the star of Black Panther 2, it is actually Letitia James, the AG of New York.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:02

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Baronash posted:

For anyone confused, as I was, as to why the list of targets was Joe Biden, the Manhattan DA, and the star of Black Panther 2, it is actually Letitia James, the AG of New York.

Thanks for the clarification. Honestly the other option didn't throw me for a second

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:04

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Baronash posted:

For anyone confused, as I was, as to why the list of targets was Joe Biden, the Manhattan DA, and the star of Black Panther 2, it is actually Letitia James, the AG of New York.

lol, I didn't even notice that my phone auto-suggests "Wright" after the word "Letitia". That is hilarious.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:05

rscott: Dec 10, 2009

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/petestrzok/status/1689588957808398336

Maybe the issue is that Supreme Court Justices get too much PTO.

Anyway, deploy the conservative op ed strike force to argue how this is all fine, just fine.

Now we know why he's so sleepy during oral arguments, if I was taking that many vacations I would be tired too!

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:10

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Baronash posted:

For anyone confused, as I was, as to why the list of targets was Joe Biden, the Manhattan DA, and the star of Black Panther 2, it is actually Letitia James, the AG of New York.

Plotting the demise of an actor wouldn't even surprise me, given how so many conservatives back in the GWB era kept acting as if celebrities like Sean Penn and Barbara Streisand were the most powerful people in America and how the GOP was unafraid to stand up to these smug elites with their fancy mansions and limousines. I pay even less attention to pop culture now than I did back then, but that sort of "hell yeah we oppose the powers that be, look at all these drat liberal entertainers we hate!!!" sentiment seems to still exist.

Enver Zogha fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Aug 10, 2023

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:14

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

Enver Zogha posted:

Plotting the demise of an actor wouldn't even surprise me, given how so many conservatives back in the GWB era kept acting as if celebrities like Sean Penn and Barbara Streisand were the most powerful people in America and how the GOP was unafraid to stand up to these smug elites with their fancy mansions and limousines. I pay even less attention to pop culture now than I did back then, but that sort of "hell yeah we oppose the powers that be, look at all these drat liberal entertainers we hate!!!" sentiment seems to still exist.

Leticia Wright would be a weird choice since she is herself is a bit of a kook (came out as anti-vax during the covid years and then tried to walk it back, and is also apparently Christian as all hell)

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:18

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

rscott posted:

Now we know why he's so sleepy during oral arguments, if I was taking that many vacations I would be tired too!

It was just a decade-long hangover

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:19

Shooting Blanks: Jun 6, 2007; Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

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haveblue posted:

Leticia Wright would be a weird choice since she is herself is a bit of a kook (came out as anti-vax during the covid years and then tried to walk it back, and is also apparently Christian as all hell)

I believe she only tried to walk it back because Disney basically said "No, don't talk politics if you want to continue working on Marvel films."

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:23

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

That dude was so blantant it's almost like he was trying to commit suicide by fed.

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1689633082670813185

Good, go to hell you little fascist troll. I don't even know where this guy's candidacy came from, I think it was willed into existence by media companies.

https://twitter.com/MarkPaoletta/status/1689051124567785472

zoux fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Aug 10, 2023

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:30

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The House Oversight Committee investigating Hunter Biden had been claiming for almost a year that they had evidence and whistleblowers that proved Joe Biden was taking direct payments as bribes from the Chinese government and Kazakhstani/Russian oligarchs affiliated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

They have now slightly walked back those claims and said that there are no direct payments to Biden, but they still intend to impeach him for accepting bribes even without any direct payments. Instead, they will now argue that even though Biden did not benefit financially, he still accepted bribes from China and Burisma because when they hired Hunter Biden's company and paid him money, that meant that it was money that Biden wouldn't have to spend to help Hunter if Hunter was unemployed.

They also are now arguing that Hunter Biden was selling his father's "brand" overseas as someone able to get things done and that could serve as a non-monetary contribution by boosting his image overseas.

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1689327981934555141

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House Oversight Republicans laid out their intention to accuse President Joe Biden of corruption even without direct evidence that he financially benefited from Hunter Biden�s foreign business dealings, a clear shift in their strategy that they said was launched to investigate the president.

The new strategy is highlighted in a memo released by the committee on Wednesday.

�President Biden�s defenders purport a weak defense by asserting the Committee must show payments directly to the President to show corruption,� the House Oversight Republicans wrote.

�This is a hollow claim no other American would be afforded if their family members accepted foreign payments or bribes. Indeed, the law recognizes payments to family members to corruptly influence others can constitute a bribe,� the memo says. The panel points to a resource guide of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act that states �companies also may violate the FCPA if they give payments or gifts to third parties, such as an official�s family members, as an indirect way of corruptly influencing a foreign official.� Hunter Biden has not been charged or convicted of accepting bribes at this point.

The memo follows the increasing drumbeat from many House Republicans � and certainly the GOP presidential frontrunner Donald Trump � to pursue impeachment of the sitting president even without a clear establishment of facts.

But, so far, it appears the committee has not found any direct evidence that President Biden personally benefited from any of his son�s business dealings. Republicans are now insisting they don�t have to.

�No one in the Biden Administration or in the Minority has explained what services, if any, the Bidens and their associates provided in exchange for the over $20 million in foreign payments,� reads the memo.

The White House has long maintained that Comer�s investigation is designed for political purposes as it has yet to find any evidence that Joe Biden directly profited from his son�s foreign business dealings or if Hunter Biden�s entanglements influenced his decision-making while vice president.

President Biden has denied being involved in any of his son�s business dealings.

In a statement following the release of the memo, White House spokesperson Ian Sams said, �Today House Republicans on the Oversight Committee released another memo full of years-old �news,� innuendo, and misdirection � but notably missing, yet again, is any connection to President Biden.�

The top Democrat on the Oversight panel, Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland, added, �Republicans have repeatedly twisted and mischaracterized the evidence in a transparent and increasingly embarrassing attempt to justify their baseless calls for an impeachment inquiry and distract from former President Trump�s dozens of outstanding felony criminal charges in three different cases.�

The memo argues that Hunter Biden selling his father�s �brand� around the world to enrich the Biden family is enough to prove that there was corruption and bribery connected to Joe Biden.

�During Joe Biden�s vice presidency, Hunter Biden sold him as �the brand� to reap millions from oligarchs in Kazakhstan, Russia, and Ukraine,� said Committee Chairman James Comer, a Republican from Kentucky, in a statement. �It appears no real services were provided other than access to the Biden network, including Joe Biden himself. And Hunter Biden seems to have delivered.�

But Hunter Biden�s business associate Devon Archer, testified to the Oversight Committee last week that Hunter gave the false impression to executives of Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company, that he had influence over US policy.

Archer said that Hunter Biden sold the illusion of access to his father, and Archer told the panel he was �not aware of any� wrongdoing by Joe Biden and that �nothing� of importance was discussed the 20 times he recalled then-Vice President Joe Biden being placed on speaker phone during meetings with business partners.

The only evidence Oversight Republicans mention that indirectly connects Joe Biden to his son�s business dealings are a 2014 and 2015 dinner that he attended with Hunter Biden and some of his foreign business associates at Caf� Milano and that he visited Ukraine as vice president shortly after his son started receiving $1 million a year from Burisma, for joining their board of directors.

Wednesday�s memo comes as CNN previously reported that House Republicans are gearing up to launch an impeachment inquiry into the president as soon as next month.

The memo focuses on a previously known $3.5 million payment from Russian oligarch Yelena Baturina that Archer testified Hunter Biden was �not involved� in the meeting.

Even though Hunter Biden was not directly involved, House Oversight Republicans are attempting to show how a portion of the $3.5 million was transferred into multiple accounts until it entered an account connected to Hunter Biden. Committee Republicans then suggest, without evidence, that the payment was connected to a dinner with Baturina including Hunter and Joe Biden at Caf� Milano in the spring of 2014 shortly after the initial payment was made. Without presenting evidence that would provide a connection, Republicans suggested that this payment could have something to do with why Baturina is not on the public sanctions list following Russia�s invasion of Ukraine.

Hunter Biden�s business associate involved in this payment, Devon Archer, who testified to the Oversight panel last week described the Caf� Milano dinner as �like a birthday dinner.�

�He came to dinner, and we ate and kind of talked about the world, I guess, and the weather, and then everybody � everybody left,� Archer, who was also at the dinner, said of Joe Biden.

In a 2020 Senate report, Republicans revealed the existence of the payment from Baturina to a company tied to Hunter Biden�s business associates. But Wednesday�s memo does not detail how much of the $3.5 million Hunter Biden received specifically.

Hunter Biden�s lawyers said in 2020 that the claim that he was paid $3.5 million �is false� and the key financial transactions that Comer flagged � between Hunter Biden and billionaires from Russia and Kazakhstan � are not referenced in any of the plea documents in Hunter Biden�s criminal case and were not mentioned at his court hearing last month.

The memo focuses on deals and transactions Hunter Biden made with foreign oligarchs and leaders in Russia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan. The panel subpoenaed six banks for information regarding specific Biden family business associates, but has not yet subpoenaed bank records from Biden family members themselves.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:32

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Not at all surprised that they are just making up a reason for impeachment since they have been saying they were going to impeach him since they retook the House. A total joke but they don�t have any actual policy to run on in 2024 so we�re just going to have them trying to muddy the waters by saying �look, Biden did crimes too!�

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:43

Shooting Blanks: Jun 6, 2007; Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

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If we had to impeach/prosecute every politician who's had a kid try to trade on their name, I'm not sure we'd have many politicians left.

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:53

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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FlamingLiberal posted:

Not at all surprised that they are just making up a reason for impeachment since they have been saying they were going to impeach him since they retook the House. A total joke but they don�t have any actual policy to run on in 2024 so we�re just going to have them trying to muddy the waters by saying �look, Biden did crimes too!�

I think they partially realize this and that is why they have also dramatically increased the amount of the bribes. It was originally $60,000 (10% of $600,000) being paid directly to Biden as bribes. However, the new memo says that they are investigating "over $20 million in payments made to members of the Biden family, people associated with those individuals, and businesses related to those people." Now, it is $20 million in "payments" (not bribes anymore) to individuals affiliated with members of the Biden family or businesses affiliated with those individuals.

Bumping the money amount up to $20 million makes a lot more sense if your claim of direct payments is no longer true. It actually makes it a little more believable in a way, because it always sounded crazy that Joe Biden would be running for President, desperately needed $60,000, and the only way he could get it was by being bribed by China/Russia/Kazakhstan.

I'm still not 100% sure what official actions Biden has taken to pay Russia or China back for those bribes, though. The memo doesn't say either.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Aug 10, 2023

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:53

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

They also are now arguing that Hunter Biden was selling his father's "brand" overseas as someone able to get things done and that could serve as a non-monetary contribution by boosting his image overseas.

The leader of the country's reputation benefits from all positive economic indicators, so all American citizens and corporations have been continuously bribing Biden since he was inaugurated. The sheer scale of the Biden crime family's corruption boggles the mind

# ? Aug 10, 2023 15:57

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# ? May 25, 2024 07:37

Craig K: Nov 10, 2016; puck

Enver Zogha posted:

Plotting the demise of an actor wouldn't even surprise me, given how so many conservatives back in the GWB era kept acting as if celebrities like Sean Penn and Barbara Streisand were the most powerful people in America and how the GOP was unafraid to stand up to these smug elites with their fancy mansions and limousines. I pay even less attention to pop culture now than I did back then, but that sort of "hell yeah we oppose the powers that be, look at all these drat liberal entertainers we hate!!!" sentiment seems to still exist.

in all fairness, boomer conservatives still hate "Hanoi Jane" Fonda

# ? Aug 10, 2023 16:18

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