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mycot posted:I unironically think some games are more addictive than they are fun. The "I can stop any time I want" of video games.
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happyhippy posted:I would say Blizzard has gained a dedicated hater group that no other gaming company has to date.
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mycot posted:I unironically think some games are more addictive than they are fun. The "I can stop any time I want" of video games. This is why I uninstalled Melvor Idle after playing it for 4 hours and still having fun. I could see where it was going and I don't need to be obsessing over numbers going up long after the novelty has worn off. Assepoester posted:Their decline has been rather precipitous ever since Warcraft 3 Remastered or thereabouts, and with all of the sexual harassment coverups and hostile workplace allegations and overall mismanagement (like Kotick personally sabotaging Overwatch 2 development) make it impossible for anyone to really defend them. In fact I'd say most of their fanbase has turned on them. I felt Blizzard was changed after playing Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2: Heart of the Swarm. Those games just felt off to me, not quite the Blizzard I knew. Like fan fiction. Phigs fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Aug 13, 2023 |
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Aug 13, 2023 04:34
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happyhippy posted:I would say Blizzard has gained a dedicated hater group that no other gaming company has to date. Neither EA, Konami, nor Bungie had the level of fan devotion Blizzard did. And, well: Heav'n has no rage, like love to hatred turn'd.
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mycot posted:I unironically think some games are more addictive than they are fun. The "I can stop any time I want" of video games. At risk of being redundant, just take a look at the Diablo 4 thread, where everyone hates the game, everyone else in the thread, and themselves for playing it.
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Aug 13, 2023 04:51
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Remember when game reviews would regularly use "addictive" as a positive descriptor
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Unlucky7 posted:At risk of being redundant, just take a look at the Diablo 4 thread, where everyone hates the game, everyone else in the thread, and themselves for playing it. Mid + addictive is a powerful concoction that really seems to lure in the worst posters
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Aug 13, 2023 05:04
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John Murdoch posted:Remember when game reviews would regularly use "addictive" as a positive descriptor gamers used to be the humble porters who chewed coca leaves to keep the edge off during long workdays then the bean counters came in and did all the studies and math to figure out how to optimally extract those leaves' active compounds
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:gamers used to be the humble porters who chewed coca leaves to keep the edge off during long workdays Holy poo poo, that’s a great analogy. The weed my folks smoked in the 60s (illegally) is nothing like the weed my kid smokes in the 20s (legally).
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Leal posted:*looks nervously over at the Diablo 4 thread* the game is mid but the thread is top tier.
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mycot posted:I unironically think some games are more addictive than they are fun. The "I can stop any time I want" of video games. Blizzard is extremely deep in this, at a level only rivaled by big mobile game studios. It's the root of their "We know what you want better than you do" type commentary - ever since sometime fairly early in World of Warcraft they've been designing their games to be addictive rather than to be fun (fun sometimes comes as a side-effect). They really do know what their playerbase "wants" better than the players do and that's because they've sold their playerbase a bunch of addiction triggers that are consistent from Blizzard game to Blizzard game throughout the course of ~20 years and several games. They know that the playerbase wants that sweet dopamine drip above all else and they've put a lot of research into exactly how to dole it out. There are some things Blizzard is famous for when it comes to game design. When WoW was massively successful a lot of the industry looked at Blizzard and what Blizzard was saying was "good game design" and copied it. That's where the standardized loot colors of green/blue/yellow/purple/orange come from, and a lot of players now subconsciously associate getting rewards of those colors with a specific feeling that accompanies them. Blizzard famously discussed their approach to drop rarity (I think around the time D3 came out) and how you needed to make most of the drops players get boring and unexciting garbage so that the good drops feel "meaningful" which is a blatant addiction tactic, and they've discussed how they pace those good drops out so that they tend to show up right around the time a player will quit playing, which spurns them on to play more. Their games are absolutely designed as addiction mechanisms first and foremost (not to say that the 'game' part doesn't exist) and there's a reason that people who play those types of games (both Blizzard games and other GaaS games that have followed the same addiction cycle that Blizzard laid out, like Destiny 2) tend to not only have a lot of crossover with people who play other games of that type while often avoiding other types of games, but also tend to actively hate the thing they're playing a lot of the time. Because this has been going on long enough that there's no real way to please a lot of those addicts anymore, they've built up enough tolerance to the addiction cycle that it's difficult or impossible for them to get the same "high" they used to, but they largely don't recognize it as an effect of the game so they keep playing more and more trying to feel fulfilled, and they keep getting angry at it because it's not satisfying them the way that it used to. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Aug 13, 2023 |
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Aug 13, 2023 10:48
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Rinkles posted:What's the easiest way to find a screenshot folder Steam seems to have lost track of? Game is Grim Dawn if that helps. I'm guessing maybe this is related to me uninstalling it before the Steam UI change? Aren't those steam-cloud synced nowadays? Anyway: The brute force method would be to use desktop mode and the file search integrated into the file manager, or even Kfind. Search for folders named "screenshots" in your home and/or your library folders (or just search /), and it'll list all of them. The absolute brutest force method is to just search for all files that are named in the format of Steam's screenshots anywhere in the file system, but you won't find many GUI programs that can do a proper regex search, so: find / -type f -regextype posix-extended -regex '.*/[0-9]{14}_[0-9]+\.jpg$' 2>/dev/null
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Antigravitas posted:Aren't those steam-cloud synced nowadays? Nope. Local only unless you upload it to your account for people to see. Still applies as of now after a quick check between laptop and desktop.
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Antigravitas posted:Aren't those steam-cloud synced nowadays? No, you need to manually enable that and I think it’s per picture not per game. Antigravitas posted:Anyway: Thanks but this is on pc, not the Steam deck. I’m pretty sure the folder is still in the Steam screenshots directory, it’s just that I don’t want to go through them all one by one.
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Oh, I see. I haven't used the Steam screenshots in ages because I was taking screenshots I didn't want. Also, woops, I thought I was in the Deck thread. That said, you can use Windows file search for screenshot folders if you are desperate (Or Everything Search, which can use regex!) e: Grim Dawn's appid is 219990, so you can search for that as well. Steam screenshots are in a subfolder of a folder named 219990
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Rinkles posted:No, you need to manually enable that and I think it’s per picture not per game. If you open up the main Steam screenshots directory each folder represents a game, and it goes by the game's ID number. Grim Dawn is 219990, is there a folder with that ID in there? edit: ^^ beaten, but yeah
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I tried that number yesterday, but couldn't find a screenshot folder. Today I reinstalled the game, took a screenshot, and Steam generated the folder. I have no idea what happened to the old one. Even if the game was previously installed on another drive, that old folder should still be there. I searched all the drives, so it's not a question of looking in the wrong place. I'm stumped.
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Sorry, I think this is my fault. An oversight when migrating drives.
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 You can use that find command on the drive you migrated off of!
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...it's been wiped
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Phigs posted:I felt Blizzard was changed after playing Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2: Heart of the Swarm. Those games just felt off to me, not quite the Blizzard I knew. Like fan fiction. Diablo 4 is my biggest gaming purchase regret of the year.
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I've never played any Diablo game, but I've tried a few Diablo-likes (not sure what the term is for these; stuff like Torchlight) and kinda just bounced off 'em.
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ARPGs - Action RPGs. Or if you go farther back, hack and slash. But like most genre terms someone will be along shortly to say that's stupid and doesn't count as the real term.
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Brotato is the best ARPG released in recent memory. maybe memory period.
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Bad Seafood posted:I've never played any Diablo game, but I've tried a few Diablo-likes (not sure what the term is for these; stuff like Torchlight) and kinda just bounced off 'em. Diappelgangers
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i didnt like a lot of the prerelease poo poo i saw about d4 so i was waiting to see how it panned out before buying. now im just laughing at what seems to have turned into a goddamn tire fire.
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the first diablo was one of the only pc games my family's ancient dell could run and i loved it for that alone
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I honestly enjoyed the story in D4 pretty well and liked playing it til the end but also I felt no desire to keep playing after that or come back when the season started. With POE 2 not coming til at least next year I'll probably just replay Titan Quest and Diablo 2 remastered some and maybe try Grim Dawn.
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I loved Diablo 1 & 2 back in the day, but I honestly bounced off every single one since then, with the sole of exception of the Van Helsing games. Probably because I am dumb about the aesthetic and they were just "go through the campaign and done" for me.
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Oxxidation posted:the first diablo was one of the only pc games my family's ancient dell could run and i loved it for that alone If you didn't try to get all manners of games running on an ancient family dell, did you really grow up in the 90's?
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Awesome! posted:i didnt like a lot of the prerelease poo poo i saw about d4 so i was waiting to see how it panned out before buying. now im just laughing at what seems to have turned into a goddamn tire fire. It's a surprisingly good campaign, at least for an ARPG, but everything else is mediocre at best. I was intrigued by the slower pace and Dash button and powerful debuffs in the open beta, but then you realize it's not actually like a "technical" game to play, you just keep Vulnerable up 100% of the time or you're an idiot.
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Yeah basically everyone I know, myself included, who played Diablo 4 played the campaign, saw the rest of the game and was like "ehhhh" and haven't touched it since.
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Oxxidation posted:the first diablo was one of the only pc games my family's ancient dell could run and i loved it for that alone That's one of the secret strengths of Blizzard, or used to be. Most new games needed the latest $300 card or $2000 rig to enjoy it at full intended graphics. Then they complained about piss poor sales not realizing only a tenth of those that wanted to play it could. Blizzard made most its games for potato set ups, holding off upgrading WoW until it was really really necessary. Macichne Leainig posted:Yeah basically everyone I know, myself included, who played Diablo 4 played the campaign, saw the rest of the game and was like "ehhhh" and haven't touched it since. As with most games. I think they do a Diablo 3 on it and after a few seasons and milking as much out of it, will make leveling to max take an hour or two, and a resurgence will happen like with D3.
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I didn’t even think the campaign was that great to be honest. The whole open world with other people around thing just seems pointless to me.
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Yeah I think the open world is basically 4's original sin that's baked in deeply enough that fixing the game is going to be really difficult. Obviously they can improve it, and it's not like the game is unsalvageable garbage or anything, but I think it was a mistake that they're going to be stuck with for the life of the game now.
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But unlike D3, your level in D4 really doesn't come from leveling up a whole lot. You get all your skills and then you get gear. The problem is Blizzard is never going to implement a loot filter so you're going to be stuck wading through rares with poo poo affixes like Damage vs Close/Near enemies or Damage vs enemies High/Low on HP. And the loving balls to implement +All Resistance as a possible affix on gear slots while not un-loving the math for Resistances is just the icing on the cake.
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I really thought that with the template of D3:RoS in their hands, D4 would be smooth sailing. Horse riding was an immediate red flag, but I assumed they knew what they were doing.
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