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Nenonen posted:Ultimately I hope that Rheinmetall works with Ukraine to build maintenance capacity inside Ukraine to make the logistics a little simpler. Well, there's this from back in July: Rheinmetall does plan to build and repair tanks inside Ukraine Since Rheinmetall's CEO mentioned those future facilities will also be for "other armored vehicles", we can assume they're including IFVs and mobile artillery like the PzH 2000 under the vehicles they want to build/mantain.
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Aug 13, 2023 13:56
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More Perun, by the way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rBlVnc_DEw
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Aug 13, 2023 14:44
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Antigravitas posted:More Perun, by the way: Him & Anders Puck Nielsen having a fireside chat, sweet! 
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Aug 13, 2023 15:03
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Pretty interesting write up a downed Shahed that looks to be produced domestically in Russia: https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/d3be20c31acd4112b0aecece5b2a283c Looks like the Russians got the plant up and running fairly quickly, not a big surprise given the simple design.
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Aug 13, 2023 17:35
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bird food bathtub posted:I must be a big dumb dumb. How is a series of smoke generators helpful for a miles long bridge? I can't see it being realistic to hope to conceal the entire thing and bridges are not what I would consider highly mobile. Look, obviously Putin placed a gigantic array of smoke generators the entire miles-long length of the bridge They are just only activating those generators in the precise areas Ukraine attacked with missiles to save smoke pellets as is only wise Also they are wisely arresting anyone who might photograph the smoke generating areas because they need to ensure the enemy does not know their attacks failed In conclusion, believing everything the Russian media states is very intelligent
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Aug 13, 2023 17:38
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Look, obviously Putin placed a gigantic array of smoke generators the entire miles-long length of the bridge The guy they arrested literally filmed the location of their air defence. Ukraine also asks people not to film air defence at work, and some still got in trouble for precisely that, it's an obvious security measure. As much as Russia usually tends to downplay any damage, in this case the bridge is already open for transit, and there is no evidence whatsoever that it was further damaged in the attack.
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Aug 13, 2023 17:48
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WarpedLichen posted:Pretty interesting write up a downed Shahed that looks to be produced domestically in Russia: That the one that allegedly uses child slave labor?
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Aug 13, 2023 17:51
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OddObserver posted:That the one that allegedly uses child slave labor? We don't know how many facilities that have or whether or not components are produced together under one roof
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Aug 13, 2023 19:16
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https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2023/08/northern-fleet-kicks-major-barents-sea-command-and-staff-exercisequote:Northern Fleet kicks off major Barents Sea command and staff exercise  Norwegian fishers have told Russians to gently caress off, however. And they have the right to do so, but I would be worried myself that my fishing trawler was recognized as a Ukrainian torpedo boat... It's also an obviously Russia threatening NATO by having the exercise in Norwegian waters. The invasion of Ukraine was also preceded by Russia declaring all of Ukraine's Black Sea areas as prohibited due to military exercises. NATO is presumably going to have a heightened presence in the area to watch what the Russians are doing and to interfere if they really start sinking fishers. In conclusion, Bear Island is the new Snake Island and thus 
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Aug 13, 2023 20:18
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You do not gently caress with Norwegian fishermen 
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Aug 13, 2023 20:24
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Nenonen posted:20 warships, submarines, support ships, and airforce. yeah but no aircraft carriers LOL
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Aug 13, 2023 20:26
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LifeSunDeath posted:yeah but no aircraft carriers LOL They will tow a barge filled with truck tires to the sea and set it alight to simulate the presence of Kuznetsov.
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Aug 13, 2023 20:32
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The Russians have a history of provocative exercises in the Barents sea. To us in Norway, this is like North Korea rattling their sabers to remind South Korea they're there. Norway has important assets in that area that's bound to have accompanying military support. Like there's a couple of oil platforms, which have had a coast guard presence since Russia hosed with that oil pipe near Denmark. And the tags at bottom left of the map is Andøya where we develop satellites and other rocket science poo poo, some of which gets sold to America. There's likely US/NATO subs in the area at any given time. So while this exercise is scary, there's comfort in it being normal and that they couldn't just walk over us if they were up to something. Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Aug 13, 2023 |
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Aug 13, 2023 21:02
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fuctifino posted:On the subject of yesterday's attack, this popped up on my radar regarding one of the videos This reminds me (sadly) of that joke about the FBI, the CIA and the KGB competing to see who is best at finding and capturing targets. They designate a wooded area. A neutral third party operative releases a rabbit into the woods and each agency is given a chance to capture the rabbit. The FBI goes in with helicopters and hundreds of agents beating the woods in search lines. After several hours they conclude that the rabbit has gone to ground and issue a warrant to be followed up by law enforcement at a later date. Next up is the CIA. They send in a small number of field agents with local language capabilities and contacts. After 24 hours of searching they are able to report conclusively that a rabbit or rabbits were active in the woods and that threat warning levels should be elevated for a period not less than three months. Finally the KGB goes in with two agents. The sound of cracking branches and snarling briefly rings out, and fifteen minutes later the two agents return, leading a bear between them. The bear looks back and forth at the two agents, then turns to the adjudicator and says “I am a rabbit. My parents are rabbits…”
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Aug 13, 2023 23:57
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The Artificial Kid posted:This reminds me (sadly) of that joke about the FBI, the CIA and the KGB competing to see who is best at finding and capturing targets. I think I saw that joke verbatim but about Israeli Shin Bet in one of Joe Sacco journalistic comics
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Aug 14, 2023 00:08
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https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1690867960825470976 ISW claims Russian milblogger says that the Kupiansk region requires reserves that they don't have to break through. I google translated the footnoted source and it seems to not say what ISW says. Can any Russian speaking goons take a crack? https://t.me/voenkorKotenok/49795 Heading 4 specifically.
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Aug 14, 2023 00:43
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fatherboxx posted:I think I saw that joke verbatim but about Israeli Shin Bet in one of Joe Sacco journalistic comics Either Mossad or Shin Bet is a common third security service in the Israeli version of this joke. (Usually goes CIA, KGB, Mossad/Shin Bet). The foreign services are usually shown as being successful (the KGB comes back with a dead rabbit, but they still got it). I the variations I'm familiar with have the Israeli service's agents not coming back for days, so the agents of the other two go look for them, only to find them torturing a bear to make it admit it's a rabbit. In short, I bet Sacco heard it from an Israeli when doing his research for Palestine.
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Aug 14, 2023 00:44
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Look, obviously Putin placed a gigantic array of smoke generators the entire miles-long length of the bridge And here I though the entire stock of Soviet Trabants had been mulched and/or sold to credulous Westerners by now
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Aug 14, 2023 03:53
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PainterofCrap posted:And here I though the entire stock of Soviet Trabants had been mulched and/or sold to credulous Westerners by now Maybe the Trabants, but the Bukhankas are still rolling around... https://twitter.com/UnseenOps/status/1690764555675119618?s=20
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Aug 14, 2023 04:19
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The Artificial Kid posted:This reminds me (sadly) of that joke about the FBI, the CIA and the KGB competing to see who is best at finding and capturing targets. In comic form: 
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Aug 14, 2023 05:05
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MikeC posted:https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1690867960825470976 It's this part that talks about needed reserves and it's a bit indirect about not having them: quote:При хорошей ситуации в прорыв нужно вводить немалый резерв, есть возможность пойти. В районе Купянска зреет окружение одного из танковых подразделений ВСУ. Но… Вопрос в резервах, в людском ресурсе… Machine translation by Deepl (usually better than Google): quote:In a good situation in the breakthrough need to enter a considerable reserve, there is an opportunity to go. One of the tank units of the AFU is being encircled near Kupyansk. But... The question is in the reserves, in human resources.... Probably ISW is basing their statement of RU not having the reserves not only on this telegram post but also on other information they have. But that's guessing.
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Aug 14, 2023 05:26
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Wouldn't the FBI grab their own completely seperate rabbit that they've been supplying with alfalfa and fake explosives for the last six months?
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Aug 14, 2023 06:13
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The FSB would come up with a bear with rabbit tattoos sharpied on and three copies of the sims
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Aug 14, 2023 06:23
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Wibla posted:I hope they're collaborating about improvements to the design to make it more maintainable over time. Peace-time barrel life is 1000 rounds. Ukraine is apparently often shooting hundreds of rounds per day per Pzh2000. The barrels have supposedly still been usable after shooting up to 10k rounds. This problem is inherent to artillery, and probably why Russian artillery pieces are rapidly disappearing out of depots. Shooting tens of thousands rounds per day means using up dozens of barrels per day. DTurtle fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Aug 14, 2023 |
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Aug 14, 2023 07:39
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DTurtle posted:Shooting tens of thousands rounds per day means using up dozens of barrels per day. Only if you care about accuracy.
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Aug 14, 2023 07:46
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Rugz posted:Which could just as easily be hammering the Democrats by saying that Biden is just a continuation of Obama's weak foreign policy, rather than that Biden is wasting American money on the losing side. He sold this country a bill of goods and now the chickens are coming home to roost (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 14, 2023 11:11
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The Lone Badger posted:Only if you care about accuracy. Don't you also eventually get the risk of the shell exploding inside the barrel/your artillery system?
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Aug 14, 2023 12:26
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Griefor posted:Don't you also eventually get the risk of the shell exploding inside the barrel/your artillery system? We've seen a bunch of Elmer Fudd-ed barrels, yes
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Aug 14, 2023 12:38
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DTurtle posted:Most of the maintenance is replacing barrels. Bolding mine. It probably contributes to Ukraine having limited artillery superiority in tube artillery in the south, even while not having rocket superiority. Griefor posted:Don't you also eventually get the risk of the shell exploding inside the barrel/your artillery system? Yes. There are pictures online of howitzers split open like a flower. It's not really the shell's payload exploding so much as the propellant's explosion finally breaking the barrel catastrophically. I suppose such an event could also end up detonating the payload, but I don't know how much of a difference it would make. We're already talking about several kg of explosives ripping apart chunks of steel and throwing them around.
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Aug 14, 2023 13:52
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Wizard Master posted:He sold this country a bill of goods and now the chickens are coming home to roost I'm normally annoyed when someone quotes a post from a dozen pages ago but I'll make an exception for in-depth analysis like this.
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Aug 14, 2023 15:52
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Ynglaur posted:Yes. There are pictures online of howitzers split open like a flower. It's not really the shell's payload exploding so much as the propellant's explosion finally breaking the barrel catastrophically. I suppose such an event could also end up detonating the payload, but I don't know how much of a difference it would make. We're already talking about several kg of explosives ripping apart chunks of steel and throwing them around. Having the HE filler in the shell go off would be worse, but HE tends to be varying degrees of insensitive, and the fuses are designed to be safe until they're fired.
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Aug 15, 2023 01:39
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TasogareNoKagi posted:Having the HE filler in the shell go off would be worse, but HE tends to be varying degrees of insensitive, and the fuses are designed to be safe until they're fired. *offer not valid for 50-year-old cold war surplus
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Aug 15, 2023 01:44
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https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1690788730397667329 Are there solutions to super dense minefields that could be provided? No idea what is possible.
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Aug 15, 2023 02:19
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saratoga posted:https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1690788730397667329 Nuclear air burst? Flooding the plain and boating over? I mean the whole point of them is to be a dangerous pain in the rear end to remove. Oracle fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Aug 15, 2023 |
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Aug 15, 2023 02:33
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saratoga posted:https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1690788730397667329 Large amounts of explosives is the quickest way but it's got lots of very obvious downsides.
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Aug 15, 2023 02:36
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If they are that close together it seems like chain reactions would be likely and you could maybe clear them that way? Like those Bangalore type things?
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Aug 15, 2023 02:50
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Early on there were purpose build mine clearing tanks which shot out lines of detcord to clear large areas but I haven't seen those mentioned for a long time now. One of the big problems with those was that they were big priority targets that were easy to takeout if used close to the front lines. One idea is to do much that same thing by using multiple drones to carry the detcord but that would take a new design and testing phase before it could be rolled out in reliable numbers. One off examples could be kludged together but a purpose build aerial drone mine clearer is probably a long time off.
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Aug 15, 2023 03:03
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E. Revenant posted:Early on there were purpose build mine clearing tanks which shot out lines of detcord to clear large areas but I haven't seen those mentioned for a long time now. One of the big problems with those was that they were big priority targets that were easy to takeout if used close to the front lines. They only have a handful of those is another problem.
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Aug 15, 2023 03:08
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E. Revenant posted:Early on there were purpose build mine clearing tanks which shot out lines of detcord to clear large areas but I haven't seen those mentioned for a long time now. One of the big problems with those was that they were big priority targets that were easy to takeout if used close to the front lines. On the plus side Ukraine has been able to get things like their drone boats from concept to implementation fairly quickly so while drone mine clearers also have a bunch of hurdles they can probably be addressed with significant momentum.
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Aug 15, 2023 03:21
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I read an article where western trainers were telling Ukrainians that mine fields are usually only several hundred meters wide and a few meters deep so it’s best to just maneuver around them. The Ukrainians laughed and said they were encountering minefields that were several kilometers wide and several hundred meters deep.
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