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Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Icept posted:

Someone who is an expert on fish bricks, how do you get like one or two for that nights dinner? Chisel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcRGRkyFCPQ&t=50s

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Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer
let's do nestle's water theft operations next

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

Mederlock posted:

let's do nestle's water theft operations next

Still holds up after a year:

Sedgr
Sep 16, 2007

Neat!

Nestle is a real piece of poo poo.

Tuna-Fish
Sep 13, 2017

steinrokkan posted:

What is he neglecting to mention

Finland declared independence as the Russian empire was disintegrating in 1917. Very soon after, this turned into a civil war between the reds (broadly, communists and hardline socialists, mainly laborers in large, southern cities) and the whites (all other parties, mainly supported by rural population). As they do, this civil war got really nasty really quickly. The whites won, and in the end the red government and a huge amount of refugees fled Finland into the Soviet Union.

Once they got to Leningrad, they formed a coherent local power block, which agitated the USSR to invade Finland and install them in power. This was their undoing, because one of the large disagreements between Trotsky and Stalin was "world revolution" vs "communism in one country", and wanting to invade a neighbouring country made all of them trotskyites by default. Despite the fact that the whites had no-bullshit concentration camps for the reds after the war, Stalin killed a lot more Finnish communists than the whites ever did.

This then directly made Finland extremely united when the Soviets did invade in the Winter War, because even though the left in Finland really didn't like the right, nearly everyone had had friends and family members murdered by Stalin. Especially since the guy Stalin put in charge of his puppet goverment, Otto Wille Kuusinen, had one by one betrayed everyone else in the exile leadership and sent them to their deaths, including his wife.

My great grandfather was a communist who was murdered in USSR. My grandfather was a communist who, when called, took up arms to defend his country. According to him, had Stalin been even a little bit less evil, he might well have fought on a different side in that war.

(Edited for clarity)

Tuna-Fish fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Aug 14, 2023

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005



Ruble stronk. Foolish Westoids.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Tuna-Fish posted:

Finland declared independence as the Russian empire was disintegrating in 1917. Very soon after, this turned into a civil war between the reds (broadly, communists and hardline socialists, mainly laborers in large, southern cities) and the whites (all other parties, mainly supported by rural population). As they do, this civil war got really nasty really quickly. The whites won, and in the end the red government and a huge amount of refugees fled Finland into the Soviet Union.

Once they got to Leningrad, they formed a coherent local power block, which agitated the USSR to invade Finland and install them in power. This was their undoing, because one of the large disagreements between Trotsky and Stalin was "world revolution" vs "communism in one country", and wanting to invade a neighbouring country made all of them trotskyites by default. Despite the fact that the whites had no bullshit concentration camps for the reds after the war, Stalin killed a lot more Finnish communists than the whites ever did.

This then directly made Finland extremely united when the Soviets did invade in the Winter War, because even though the left in Finland really didn't like the right, nearly everyone had had friends and family members murdered by Stalin. Especially since the guy Stalin put in charge of his puppet goverment, Otto Wille Kuusinen, had one by one betrayed everyone else in the exile leadership and sent them to their deaths, including his wife.

My great grandfather was a communist who was murdered in USSR. My grandfather was a communist who, when called, took up arms to defend his country. According to him, had Stalin been even a little bit less evil, he might well have fought on a different side in that war.

Thank you for adding more context to Finnish history because it's one of those things that people like to not-so-subtly use to insinuate something unkind about Finns.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

beer_war posted:



Ruble stronk. Foolish Westoids.

Dead bylat bounce

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

beer_war posted:



Ruble stronk. Foolish Westoids.

Buying bread without mortgage is once again a close possibility

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe

Tuna-Fish posted:

Despite the fact that the whites had no bullshit concentration camps for the reds after the war, Stalin killed a lot more Finnish communists than the whites ever did.

I had a lot of trouble making sense of this sentence until I realised that the intended reading was "no-bullshit concentration camps", rather than "they didn't have any of them there concentration camps, which by the way are bullshit"

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

how is this poo poo going? i stopped following it probably 9 months ago or so, i can't remember exactly. it got a liottle too real when we housed some ukranian refugees in our housing co-operative and one is my neighbour now and i started talking to him about the war and these threasd stopped being funny. he's my wargaming buddy now cause he freaking loves tabletop wargames but he doesn't like to talk about the war regularly anymore and my info about the progress and such has dried up. last i heard was about prigozhin and the big wet fart that was. anything crazy happen to him? is ukraine still pushing or is it stalemate? belarus???? is putin becoming increasingly isolated?

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

how is this poo poo going? i stopped following it probably 9 months ago or so, i can't remember exactly. it got a liottle too real when we housed some ukranian refugees in our housing co-operative and one is my neighbour now and i started talking to him about the war and these threasd stopped being funny. he's my wargaming buddy now cause he freaking loves tabletop wargames but he doesn't like to talk about the war regularly anymore and my info about the progress and such has dried up. last i heard was about prigozhin and the big wet fart that was. anything crazy happen to him? is ukraine still pushing or is it stalemate? belarus???? is putin becoming increasingly isolated?

Ukrainian counteroffensive going good, Russia lost more ships to the country without a navy, poo poo is blowing up everywhere in Russian industrial centers because Ukraine developed its own long range drones, Ukraine is getting M1 Abrams tanks and F-16s, Wagner was banished to Belarus and then to Africa for the coup attempt (Niger was also couped with Wagner help), Girkin was thrown in a dungeon somewhere and is probably being tortured because he wouldn't stop shitposting about putin being an idiot, Russia's on its third mobilization wave and putin is still a huge piece of poo poo

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

how is this poo poo going?

full scale war between near peer powers takes a long time and it's been a horrible meat grinder on the front

Ukraine is still slowly gaining ground, Russia is too entrenched to collapse like they did in Kherson and Kharkiv and both parties are in this for the long haul

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

It stinks!!!

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

It's going to a longer process than anyone wanted. :ukraine:

Tuna-Fish
Sep 13, 2017

Hammerite posted:

I had a lot of trouble making sense of this sentence until I realised that the intended reading was "no-bullshit concentration camps", rather than "they didn't have any of them there concentration camps, which by the way are bullshit"

Sorry, fixed.

JustCallMeDC
Aug 12, 2023

Obey the Lamb
Obey the Lamb
Obey the Lamb
Dang, I would be a millionaire in Russia.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
https://twitter.com/AleksandrX13/status/1691110452128886785?t=T-qPGhaR5-FMQWKUe8EBag&s=19

This guy has the goods

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

lmao god bless Wizard Master

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

JustCallMeDC posted:

Dang, I would be a millionaire in Russia.

Yeah, but you would be a millionaire in Russia.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

HonorableTB posted:

Ukrainian counteroffensive going good, Russia lost more ships to the country without a navy, poo poo is blowing up everywhere in Russian industrial centers because Ukraine developed its own long range drones, Ukraine is getting M1 Abrams tanks and F-16s, Wagner was banished to Belarus and then to Africa for the coup attempt (Niger was also couped with Wagner help), Girkin was thrown in a dungeon somewhere and is probably being tortured because he wouldn't stop shitposting about putin being an idiot, Russia's on its third mobilization wave and putin is still a huge piece of poo poo

good to hear it's still progressing in ukraines favour. i was afraid that my neighbours hesitation was a sign that things were turning for the worse

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

good to hear it's still progressing in ukraines favour. i was afraid that my neighbours hesitation was a sign that things were turning for the worse

Let's put it this way, this is what Russia has been reduced to (I thought this was a parody but oh no that was a very real press conference)

https://twitter.com/WeLoveNATO/status/1691128163911540736?t=g8jMGyfVc0XUgBIzixo1-g&s=19

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

Tahirovic posted:

So local Swiss news kinda confused my brain. Nestle is all over the news crying because Russia took away their factories.
- Nestle factories in Russia got nationalised and Nestle lost a lot of money because they wanted to keep milking that market (circumventing sanctions)
- Russia got free factories

Hopefully Ukraine bombs those factories and relieves this pressure from my mind.

In the second world war one had to choose whom to support between Hitler and Stalin

Now we choose between Putin and Nestle

It hits different

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

HonorableTB posted:

Let's put it this way, this is what Russia has been reduced to (I thought this was a parody but oh no that was a very real press conference)

https://twitter.com/WeLoveNATO/status/1691128163911540736?t=g8jMGyfVc0XUgBIzixo1-g&s=19

had to check the date lmao

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
I mean we could invade Russia, but then we'd be in loving Russia

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

jaete posted:

In the second world war one had to choose whom to support between Hitler and Stalin

Now we choose between Putin and Nestle

It hits different
I'm doing my part by eating a Lion bar.


Karate Bastard posted:

I mean we could invade Russia, but then we'd be in loving Russia
Yeah it's a bummer.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Please send the rosgvardia into Ukraine. I mean that's all that's left. Just send em. So I cAn lol when Dagestani separatists take 200 KM in less than a day

Pot Smoke Phoenix
Aug 15, 2007



Smoke 'em if you gottem!
Dinosaur Gum
Putin is a real unsolicited stool sample

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

oh also is that guy whos pretending to be ukraninan special forces or w/e still posting weird fanfic in here?

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Please send the rosgvardia into Ukraine. I mean that's all that's left. Just send em. So I cAn lol when Dagestani separatists take 200 KM in less than a day

They're too busy defending Belarus from the Polish invaders! :horsedrugs:

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

oh also is that guy whos pretending to be ukraninan special forces or w/e still posting weird fanfic in here?

i never stopped, baby

currently working on a hot ship starring pringles and surovikin.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

mobby_6kl posted:

I'm doing my part by eating a Lion bar.

Yeah it's a bummer.

The white Lions are yummy

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

HonorableTB posted:

Let's put it this way, this is what Russia has been reduced to (I thought this was a parody but oh no that was a very real press conference)

https://twitter.com/WeLoveNATO/status/1691128163911540736?t=g8jMGyfVc0XUgBIzixo1-g&s=19

you and what army?

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

russian soldiers started recording cringe rap disses on their internet opponents from the same side

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1691139510145257472

tlo roll call blyat

Mr Lanternfly
Jun 26, 2023
Putin is a real portion of feces.

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

My Spirit Otter posted:

i never stopped, baby

currently working on a hot ship starring pringles and surovikin.

Did someone say Pringles

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7242449533848882474

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

oh also is that guy whos pretending to be ukraninan special forces or w/e still posting weird fanfic in here?

You'll have to be more specific :v:

There was one goon who actually did go to Ukraine but wasn't an active fighter there AFAIK, he was connected with fundraising and helped expose another guy there for being a grifter. Nobody has pulled a Caro though (I hope??)

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Runa posted:

Thank you for adding more context to Finnish history because it's one of those things that people like to not-so-subtly use to insinuate something unkind about Finns.

I also want to point out that not everyone who went from Finland to USSR to build the "worker's paradise" were civil war refugees from the Red side. The left-leaning people emigrating or illegally jumping the border to USSR, especially to Soviet Karelia that was right across the border, and Leningrad region, continued up until mid-1930's when the Stalin's purges started.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

HonorableTB posted:

You'll have to be more specific :v:

There was one goon who actually did go to Ukraine but wasn't an active fighter there AFAIK, he was connected with fundraising and helped expose another guy there for being a grifter. Nobody has pulled a Caro though (I hope??)

zippybummer (sp???)

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Sedgr
Sep 16, 2007

Neat!

Zelensky is still in Ukraine.

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