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This is pretty scary. Some NYPD officers smashed a kids’ head through a car window. In addition to the “normal” sadism being boosted in the replies (and the Krassensteins’ going right wing in response to getting money from Elon), Twitter is apparently copyright striking videos of the incident. https://twitter.com/DJ33_TV/status/1687670421204680709 https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1687805317323599873 The media has already decided to never boost videos of police brutality ever again, and Twitter seemed like one of the few spaces where people were you could find people still actually mad about the 2020 pig orgy, even as it was equally full of people baying for the blood of black people. Now they’re trying to limit that too.
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# ? Aug 6, 2023 21:28 |
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The death of twitter may play out over months or years, but I think it’s well on its way and irreversible at this point. Is it still called twitter or not? The fact that I don’t know means that it’s on the way out.
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# ? Aug 6, 2023 21:38 |
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That cutoff is perfect
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# ? Aug 6, 2023 21:48 |
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So, um... Who, exactly, owns that copyright?
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# ? Aug 6, 2023 23:25 |
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Morroque posted:So, um... Who, exactly, owns that copyright? Can’t watch the video cause it’s been removed but if it’s a police body cam then the copyright legitimately belongs to the cop(s).
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# ? Aug 6, 2023 23:27 |
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If so, then that's an unfortunately sensible argument.
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# ? Aug 6, 2023 23:29 |
poo poo was recorded with equipment our tax dollars paid for, that's some bulshit
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 01:01 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:Can’t watch the video cause it’s been removed but if it’s a police body cam then the copyright legitimately belongs to the cop(s). if it’s a police body cam it’s a work for hire because the cop takes the video in the ordinary course of their job and it belongs to the police department
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 01:30 |
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evilweasel posted:if it’s a police body cam it’s a work for hire because the cop takes the video in the ordinary course of their job and it belongs to the police department Doesn't really look like a bodycam to me. I suppose it could be but most likely Twitter is being dumb.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 01:36 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:Can’t watch the video cause it’s been removed but if it’s a police body cam then the copyright legitimately belongs to the cop(s). evilweasel posted:if it’s a police body cam it’s a work for hire because the cop takes the video in the ordinary course of their job and it belongs to the police department I don't know which particular video those two Twitter users posted, but it's unlikely to have been from a police bodycam. There were a bazillion people there with cameras - there were plenty of reporters and freelancers recording video for what was clearly a newsworthy event, and of course we all carry decent-quality video cameras in our pockets these days. Also, the chances of bodycam footage being publicly available for something that happened two days ago are fairly slim. Getting the NYPD to release bodycam footage usually takes months, unless it's a particularly egregious incident that has drawn a direct response from the NYPD, and this doesn't seem to be one of those. Who owns the copyright then? Honestly, it doesn't really matter that much. Platforms often don't put all that much effort into verifying that the person filing a DMCA takedown request actually owns the copyright, since there isn't any real legal consequence for an erroneous takedown. Twitter has long had issues with false copyright takedowns, and it's not like anything can really be expected to improve under Musk.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 01:49 |
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Everybody's said everything important about the particular situation, but I'd like to note that policy bodycam privacy concerns aren't entirely offbase, they're just abused for cop corruption. We really would prefer for the lapels of people who routinely barge into private yards, houses, and bedrooms to maybe not be 100% public all the time. obviously the nypd using delaying tactics for another angle of deliberate police brutality does not so much fall into that category
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 02:04 |
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If Elon thinks lifting weights has anything to do with a fistfight, I am even more delighted by his going hand-to-hand with Zuckerberg. May they both lose.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 02:24 |
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Works produced by employees of the US Federal Government during their duties are generally part of the public domain. State governments are, as usual, a mess. https://copyright.lib.harvard.edu/states/ The case law in New York would probably let municipal governments claim copyright over things like body camera footage, even if you could get copies of it through Freedom of Information mechanisms. IANAL or judge, though.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 02:43 |
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FOIA it and put it on YouTube.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 03:57 |
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Linda just straight up lying. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1689646515726508033
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 17:34 |
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OgNar posted:Linda just straight up lying. where have i heard this before. which metrics? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9go38MgZ4w8 ah, there it is
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 18:14 |
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Yes, throwing the long and well known brand of ‘Twitter’ aside for the completely recognizable and totally not confusing brand of… “X”
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 18:49 |
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at least a couple of times reading a random tweet in Safari on IOS I've tried to tap the X to close the tweet (even though it's in the wrong place and all, it's just muscle memory to tap an X to close stuff at this point)
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 20:28 |
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When I see the X instead of a bird when I navigate in-browser I keep thinking the page has failed to load.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 21:05 |
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OgNar posted:Linda just straight up lying. Twitter has been straight-up playing different videos after a video (feature? bug? who knows?) and I'm sure THAT'S healthy and safe
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 11:22 |
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https://twitter.com/michaelleung/status/1689908092035854336?s=20
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 23:36 |
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OgNar posted:Linda just straight up lying. Meanwhile, in the real world... https://twitter.com/david_j_roth/status/1689829267461242881?s=20 A lot of people focusing on the ridiculous name of the executive, but turns out he's a former Tory candidate and a BBC trustee.
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 23:39 |
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Nick Pickles
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# ? Aug 12, 2023 16:56 |
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I wonder if you can trick Elon into selling the old Twitter branding and someone just makes Twitter again and everyone goes to it.
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# ? Aug 14, 2023 23:18 |
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Republicans posted:I wonder if you can trick Elon into selling the old Twitter branding and someone just makes Twitter again and everyone goes to it.
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# ? Aug 14, 2023 23:57 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:If Elon thinks lifting weights has anything to do with a fistfight, I am even more delighted by his going hand-to-hand with Zuckerberg. Update on this: Zuckerberg claims to have given up on arranging this after Musk repeatedly failed to give a date and time for this match to happen, as well as requesting a "practice match" beforehand. Zuckerberg says that Musk is "Not Serious". In response, Musk claims to be outside Zuckerberg's house, ready to go. Zuckerberg is, of course, not home, and a spokesperson says "Mark takes this sport seriously and isn’t going to fight someone who randomly shows up at his house". This is so loving stupid, and entirely par for the course.
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# ? Aug 15, 2023 15:36 |
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Republicans posted:I wonder if you can trick Elon into selling the old Twitter branding and someone just makes Twitter again and everyone goes to it. Based on how things have gone so far, there's a significant chance the Twitter mark falls into the public domain after the company fails or forgets to renew it
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# ? Aug 15, 2023 15:40 |
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NAME REDACTED posted:In response, Musk claims to be outside Zuckerberg's house, ready to go. Or lying about doing so and thinking it makes him look cool.
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# ? Aug 15, 2023 15:46 |
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Guavanaut posted:Literally stood outside someone's house yelling "fight me bro" like a some drunk rear end in a top hat in an 80s movie. He was actually in Ohio because he is an incredible loser. https://www.threads.net/@elonmusksjet/post/Cv7LYg4uctQ
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# ? Aug 15, 2023 15:47 |
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haveblue posted:Based on how things have gone so far, there's a significant chance the Twitter mark falls into the public domain after the company fails or forgets to renew it
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# ? Aug 15, 2023 15:51 |
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NAME REDACTED posted:Update on this: Zuckerberg claims to have given up on arranging this after Musk repeatedly failed to give a date and time for this match to happen, as well as requesting a "practice match" beforehand. Zuckerberg says that Musk is "Not Serious". This is probably just a publicity stunt from both sides, honestly.
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# ? Aug 15, 2023 16:09 |
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Mercury_Storm posted:This is probably just a publicity stunt from both sides, honestly. It may have started as a publicity stunt on one side but then that side realized the other side didn't know it was a publicity stunt
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# ? Aug 15, 2023 16:11 |
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https://twitter.com/Lubchansky/status/1691430400462028800?s=20
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# ? Aug 15, 2023 16:15 |
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Gas fees?
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# ? Aug 15, 2023 23:49 |
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SpeakSlow posted:Gas fees? You have to spend extra money above and beyond the amount being moved to do anything with a blockchain. The money gets distributed among all the people doing the redundant work that takes the place of rigorous accountability in crypto. On the Ethereum blockchain, which is where most scams like this are run, the term for these fees is “gas”
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# ? Aug 16, 2023 00:05 |
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Mercury_Storm posted:This is probably just a publicity stunt from both sides, honestly. I mean it's a good publicity stunt for Zuckerberg, via comparison he's coming off as way better, but Musk is making himself look like a total loser so I don't know what he's getting out of it.
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# ? Aug 16, 2023 04:13 |
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He gets not getting the poo poo kicked out of him out of it.
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# ? Aug 16, 2023 04:45 |
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I mean it's a good publicity stunt for Zuckerberg, via comparison he's coming off as way better, but Musk is making himself look like a total loser so I don't know what he's getting out of it. He gets to chat with all his reply guys about how he'd totally kick the poo poo out of Zuck, and he gets to be in news headlines based on nothing more than a handful of blustering tweets. And of course, his own sycophants think he comes off like a total badass who's spooked Zuck into chickening out. Overall, this gets him the thing he wants more than anything else in the world: attention.
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# ? Aug 16, 2023 06:15 |
This is a minor thing but Twitter has officially renamed "retweets" to "reposts" which is hilarious. Just sandblasting that brand off.
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# ? Aug 16, 2023 13:44 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 15:49 |
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“I’m a billionaire because I’m great at business”- Elon Musk, the guy who nuked a world-recognized brand name so that he could fulfill a 20 year fantasy to make a site called ‘X’
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