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Some months ago, before the backpack incident, I thought Linus was an annoying person playing as the clown for views but behind the scenes seemed like an overall chill and cool dude. Then I saw pieces of the WAN or whatever show with his take on people being mad that he was making “trust me bro” t-shirts in response to his trust me bro warranty claims, or something of the sort. Exact details might be sketchy but I do remember him laughing and showing some contempt for his own audience while Luke was politely but noticeably going 🤨 And since then it’s just been example of example of him being completely unable to take criticism or make any meaningful apology with follow-through.
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Lister posted:I'm not seeing how. Steve says it's ok when they see "a pattern of behavior or there maybe be a significant chance they'll try and cover things up or prepare a pre-written response that could twist the narrative or in this case manipulate the audience" or if "the damage is being done actively." A journalist does not get to make the call about what a subject's response could do. They have a responsibility to objectively report the entire story from both sides. By not including a response, GN manipulates the audience in a similar way. People thinking that presenting "both sides" is bullshit is exactly why news media today is extremely biased. quote:Real journalism is making sure your information is rock solid before releasing it by corroborating your sources and doing your due diligence. "Asking for comment" is a way to do that, but is not the only way, and is often not done by journalists. Stakeholders can and will get upset, but as long as the information serves the public interest, who gives a poo poo.
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Aug 15, 2023 19:52
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lmfao all Linus had to do was not respond at all and in two weeks nobody would have cared or remembered. His ego prevented him from doing so and he's made this so much worse.
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Aug 15, 2023 19:53
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Posting through it is a time honoured tech boss tradition.
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Aug 15, 2023 20:01
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FlapYoJacks posted:lmfao all Linus had to do was not respond at all and in two weeks nobody would have cared or remembered. His ego prevented him from doing so and he's made this so much worse. I'm still amazed he felt like he should respond to it off the cuff, from a personal account. like you're a big boy company now, let your CEO and PR people handle it. Imagine Jensen firing off an email 45 minutes after someone disparaged Nvidia; it's nonsense.
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Aug 15, 2023 20:02
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The journalistic standards poo poo just falls apart by the very fact that it wasn't an expose it was an opinion piece. People taking up arms around that are just can't defend against the thesis of the argument.
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Aug 15, 2023 20:06
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Penisaurus Sex posted:I'm still amazed he felt like he should respond to it off the cuff, from a personal account. Yes, inconceivable. I say after tabbing over to here from the Elon Musk thread.
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Aug 15, 2023 20:08
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FlapYoJacks posted:lmfao all Linus had to do was not respond at all and in two weeks nobody would have cared or remembered. His ego prevented him from doing so and he's made this so much worse. It's also funny because a similar thing happened six months ago and got dropped quickly after he never mentioned it https://linustechtips.com/topic/148...ication-needed/ Josh Lyman posted:It’s is a fact that LTT makes too many and egregious errors that mislead consumers. It is a fact that they hosed over Billett and the mouse company. The only thing subjective is why. If that’s your only criticism of GN’a video, you’re missing the forest for the trees. If the why is subjective, then it isn't all rock solid. The video mostly being right doesn't put it above criticism. I think that pulling quotes from employees saying they wish they had more time to make videos, without actually getting direct quotes specifically on the subject of the video, was irresponsible too. It's drawing a conclusion from those statements to GN's thesis without allowing the people saying those things from elaborating.
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Aug 15, 2023 20:14
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That's not criticism it's nitpicking
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Aug 15, 2023 20:18
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grack posted:Yeah, every upvoted thread is either from Billet labs or straight up calling Linus an rear end in a top hat. Ya I was hoping there was just some confusion and misunderstanding but Billets email puts that to rest.
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Aug 15, 2023 20:19
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Aug 15, 2023 20:21
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buglord posted:So what happened with Bitwit in that video? I spent a while trying to get YouTube to not show me his videos with dreadful thumbnails of his dumb reaction faces. I can't subject myself to it to find out. I vaguely remember he split with his wife, she tried making a cooking channel and he magically disappeared off my algo recommendations. Clicking one of his videos is just going to gently caress all of that up.
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Aug 15, 2023 20:29
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Lister posted:If the why is subjective, then it isn't all rock solid. The video mostly being right doesn't put it above criticism. I think that pulling quotes from employees saying they wish they had more time to make videos, without actually getting direct quotes specifically on the subject of the video, was irresponsible too. It's drawing a conclusion from those statements to GN's thesis without allowing the people saying those things from elaborating. perhaps both sides are irresponsible, really 
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Aug 15, 2023 20:32
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He has like one, maybe two, headshots for his thumbnail images.
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another update from billet labs: https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15rxni4/comment/jwbrh0i/?context=3quote:UPDATE
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Raygereio posted:Wait so, Billet Labs send them a 3090Ti to use with the block? And LTT still managed to gently caress up put it on a 4090Ti? Good news on that front. Linus posted:We are using this, like everything else, to continue to drive ourselves to do better. Got some really exciting stuff in the holster A really good one - and the video where I actually FOUND the 3090 Ti that we were supposed to send back to Billet... grrr... - is kind of an undercover boss vid where I go and work in our logistics department for the day. This is the kind of thing I'm finding more time for in the new role and is already making a difference to some of our practices. Tornhelm fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Aug 15, 2023 |
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Lister posted:
God this is pathetic. The quotes are...there. In the video. They're making public statements. They're not out of context, it's literally asking them what problems they have in their working environment. Reaching out to them for comment beforehand would just be a way to get the more PR version of those statements. As made clear earlier in the thread, people really have no understanding of what 'journalistic ethics' actually is. Happy_Misanthrope fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Aug 15, 2023 |
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Aug 15, 2023 20:40
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Tornhelm posted:Good news on that front. Oopsie I’m making a video where I find the GPU I was supposed to send back to its owner over a month ago. Terminal content brain.
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Aug 15, 2023 20:42
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I like that Linus is tacitly putting the blame for the missing GPU on the Logistics team. Like yell at them in private but announcing their processes are poo poo in public? First of all they're probably ex-NCIX so we know they'd be poo poo and my dude it's your responsibility as the boss to ensure good practices are in place.
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Aug 15, 2023 20:44
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This being the catalyst for the team to unionize would be very funny.
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I wonder if the new CEO has told Linus to keep his sandals out of his mouth or has just shrugged and started looking for a new job.
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apatheticman posted:This being the catalyst for the team to unionize would be very funny. 
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Word is going around that LMG is contacting the action winners to tell them what they won and for what price, for tax reasons, because apparently they lost that information.
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:another update from billet labs: https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15rxni4/comment/jwbrh0i/?context=3 Lol if Linux gets dragged into an IP lawsuit because he
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Beve Stuscemi posted:Lol if Linux gets dragged into an IP lawsuit because he Billet won't be able to do that because Linus can drag it out in court with his millions and bankrupt them
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Aug 15, 2023 20:59
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Tornhelm posted:Good news on that front. Linsux posted:...and the video where I actually FOUND the 3090 Ti...
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Aug 15, 2023 21:00
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"We're not going to talk about this on the WAN show, or any other video." "poo poo, I've got a content idea!"
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Aug 15, 2023 21:00
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apatheticman posted:That's not criticism it's nitpicking Nitpicking is Linus saying that it was wrong of GN to say the block was sold instead of auctioned for charity. That's a non-substantive change. What I'm talking about isn't so minor. Happy_Misanthrope posted:God this is pathetic. The quotes are...there. In the video. They're making public statements. They're not out of context, it's literally asking them what problems they have in their working environment. Reaching out to them for comment beforehand would just be a way to get the PR version of those statements. They were public statements made in one context (being asked "What would you change about LMG?") then being taken and put into a new context ("We know these issues at LTT in terms of the rushing... pushing employees and staff to hit deadlines despite concerns with the data or the collection of the data. We know these come from top down as shown in a recent LTT interview that it conducted with its own employees where many of them stated concerns with content quality pertaining to restrictive time constraints.") to support GN's thesis. This is the definition of taking a quote out of context.
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Combat Pretzel posted:What does that mean? There was an existing video where that card happened to turn up, or are they going to turn this shitshow into more content? Company sent a prototype for testing with a video card. Linus takes the video card off the block uses a different GPU and uses 2 staff that haven't had water cooling build experience and makes a video trashing it because he thinks it's over priced. He gets called out for the using a different GPU and not giving it a fair shake. Basically says it would cost to much to do so when the outcome is still it's an over priced useless product. Found out later that not only did he auction off the block itself but he also lost the card it was originally attached to and just recently found it via his weird content.
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I have faith LTT will improve their processes.... Because it's cost them thousands of dollars a month in revenue losses due to people cancelling their paid forum subscriptions.
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Lister posted:They were public statements made in one context (being asked "What would you change about LMG?") then being taken and put into a new context ("We know these issues at LTT in terms of the rushing... pushing employees and staff to hit deadlines despite concerns with the data or the collection of the data. We know these come from top down as shown in a recent LTT interview that it conducted with its own employees where many of them stated concerns with content quality pertaining to restrictive time constraints.") to support GN's thesis. This is the definition of taking a quote out of context. jfc, those are literally the same thing. One context is asking them what they want changed, the other is showing the problems that needs to be changed, by using the employees own recorded words identifying the problems...that need to be changed. Your brain is soup. If you have a series of interviews and one of the most common critiques of the current work environment being given by employees is that time pressure is leading to struggles with producing quality content, and the thesis of your video is that content mine pressure is negatively impacting the quality of a channels work, that is not 'out of context' - that is fitting a square peg into a square hole perfectly. Like what is wrong with you? Happy_Misanthrope fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Aug 15, 2023 |
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Lister posted:Nitpicking is Linus saying that it was wrong of GN to say the block was sold instead of auctioned for charity. That's a non-substantive change. What I'm talking about isn't so minor. Disagree.
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Its funny to see this entire thread go against Linux on this one. The forums are never that galvanized
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Beve Stuscemi posted:Its funny to see this entire thread go against Linux on this one. The forums are never that galvanized What distro
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Lister posted:Nitpicking is Linus saying that it was wrong of GN to say the block was sold instead of auctioned for charity. That's a non-substantive change. What I'm talking about isn't so minor. that's really more of an example of blatant deflection/attempting to spin bullshit, because the original GN video very clearly reported that the block was auctioned off/the charitable event where the auction took place and what you're doing is most definitely nitpicking
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apatheticman posted:Company sent a prototype for testing with a video card. Linus takes the video card off the block uses a different GPU and uses 2 staff that haven't had water cooling build experience and makes a video trashing it because he thinks it's over priced. He gets called out for the using a different GPU and not giving it a fair shake. Basically says it would cost to much to do so when the outcome is still it's an over priced useless product. If they're turning this Billet thing, i.e. the quest for the lost 3090, into new content, then that's just hosed up. Then again, it's not like Linsux learns anything.
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Lister posted:This is the definition of taking a quote out of context. The context of this quote is you are a complete pea-brain. Beve Stuscemi posted:Its funny to see this entire thread go against Linux on this one. The forums are never that galvanized Before today pretty much the entire thread either actively disliked LTT or thought he was an entertaining clown.
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Lister posted:People thinking that presenting "both sides" is bullshit is exactly why news media today is extremely biased. found the radical centrist
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