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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I ll say this for Kemp: he has bigger balls than the entire rest of the Republican party put together. Our centrist press (NYT, WaPo, etc.) is going to eat that poo poo up with a spoon.
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/BrianKempGA/status/1691483026356678660 I don't normally indulge myself, but I took a peek at the replies and it's so depressing that this many Americans are completely sucked into the cult.
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Asproigerosis posted:I don't normally indulge myself, but I took a peek at the replies and it's so depressing that this many Americans are completely sucked into the cult. RESIGN!! 
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Asproigerosis posted:I don't normally indulge myself, but I took a peek at the replies and it's so depressing that this many Americans are completely sucked into the cult. Its twitter dude, a good 80% of those accounts are likely bots.
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Asproigerosis posted:I don't normally indulge myself, but I took a peek at the replies and it's so depressing that this many Americans are completely sucked into the cult. I like to think that the folks who are willing to (a) still be on X after the past year, (b) follow Brian "loving" Kemp, and (c) are still willing to cape for Trump with frothy-mouthed replies are not exactly representative of America as a whole. There's a lot of self-selection going on there, just like at Freep et al.
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FMguru posted:Yeah, he's absolutely lining himself up to be the "return to normalcy" Republican candidate in '28. Which also shows he's smarter than the rest of the field put together.
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Asproigerosis posted:I don't normally indulge myself, but I took a peek at the replies and it's so depressing that this many Americans are completely sucked into the cult.
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Aug 15, 2023 17:38
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Tayter Swift posted:I like to think that the folks who are willing to (a) still be on X after the past year, (b) follow Brian "loving" Kemp, and (c) are still willing to cape for Trump with frothy-mouthed replies are not exactly representative of America as a whole. There's a lot of self-selection going on there, just like at Freep et al. The top replies are guaranteed to be morons that pay Musky's $8 free speech fee
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I know it's a very small sample of Americans, but that's still non zero and it genuinely pains me hearing people talking this stuff in real life. I think it just hits a lot harder for me working in health care seeing people dying and with their last breaths they are still hootin and hollerin for trump. To be filled with so much hate. The families torn apart. It makes me sad.
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https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1691315354633388032?s=20 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1688022163574439937?s=20
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Cabbit posted:At this point his best defense might be to generate incriminating evidence faster than prosecutors can present it in court, delaying any verdict until long after he's dead. Ah, the Sam Bankman Fried defense.
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marshmonkey posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1691315354633388032?s=20 Hopefully Musk notices this because I think he really would pitch in to try to get Trump posting on X. Though IIRC Trump has some exclusivity thing with Truth Social.
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Neo Rasa posted:Hopefully Musk notices this because I think he really would pitch in to try to get Trump posting on X. elon has tried getting him to (remember the very visible, very public polling on if he should unsuspend DJT's account) trump doesn't give a single gently caress about elon and has snubbed him pretty much constantly.
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Asproigerosis posted:I don't normally indulge myself, but I took a peek at the replies and it's so depressing that this many Americans are completely sucked into the cult. I made the same mistake. "But Tucker Carlson has a bunch of numbers on a screen! They must be true!" If there was actual voter fraud--beyond, you know, the handful of registered Republicans caught doing stupid poo poo--there would 100% have been more than zero people swearing under oath about "what they saw." It turns out making lying under oath a crime was a good idea, all those years ago.
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O that’s why I remembered Trevian Kutti. He’s a publicist who used to do PR defense for noted saints R. Kelly and Kanye West. I guess he found a niche. Edit : digging further, Tutti seems the be referred to by multiple pronouns and titles. At no point am I trying to be lovely about their gender identity, this is honest confusion. Xiahou Dun fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Aug 15, 2023 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:O that’s why I remembered Trevian Kutti. either way why the gently caress wouldn't she take a deal?? imagine being he one non-millionaire politician lawyer pulled into this mess and your answer is "i like my odds"
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FMguru posted:Yeah, he's absolutely lining himself up to be the "return to normalcy" Republican candidate in '28. Good for him, he can get 33% or whatever of the GOP vote while TORMP!11 gets the other 66% of it and the dem candidate gets some >66% of the dem vote. I guess literal republican RFK can maybe get the leftover 1% of the GOP to cancel out the point or two of dems Kemp pulls over.
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InsertPotPun posted:she. there's video of her intimidating that ruby lady with a cop priest or a cop and a priest? Yeah, I couldn’t remember so I read the first article I could find and saw they used “he” but then later another, more trusted one said “she”. She ran a whole witness-intimidation thing sending random black people to Ruby Freeman’s house to get her to co-operate. Like they could just Legend of Bagger Vance the problem away.
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CNN is saying that Mark Meadows wants to move his GA case to federal court to get it dismissed. Does this mean he probably flipped in the federal cases against Trump long ago?
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LOL. LMAO, even. https://twitter.com/schwartzbCNBC/status/1691560431532359796 A "handshake agreement" with Trump to pay your bills? In 2020? Maybe he was trying to set up some kind of diminished capacity defense.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:someone with actual law knowledge: what is the difference between the federal RICO act (the one people think of) and georgia's own peculiar version of RICO? There may be other differences but the big one I'm aware of is that where federal RICO has a pretty small list of possible racketeering types, to avoid the doj just using it on everyone who conspires to sneeze wrong, Georgia RICO has approximately one hundred fifty million more things on the list. It's still hard to charge but it's less hard (and therefore more overreaching) than federal.
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I cannot stress how much I could visit past me in the post-2016 throes of the horror election and hand over a printout of this baby: https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...litics-sub-post
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Scags McDouglas posted:I cannot stress how much I could visit past me in the post-2016 throes of the horror election and hand over a printout of this baby: Jesus! quote:"The governor can't pardon here. It's the Board of Pardons and Paroles that has to grant that," Carlson said. "And here's the kicker: President Trump could only apply for a pardon if he were to be convicted only after he served five years in a Georgia penitentiary."
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Cimber posted:Jesus! yeah while the federal cases are big trouble, and the documents case is extremely funny, it's the Georgia rico charge that's the real backbreaker he doesn't have any discernable outs and that makes me happy
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Google Jeb Bush posted:yeah while the federal cases are big trouble, and the documents case is extremely funny, it's the Georgia rico charge that's the real backbreaker And, Kemp basically said that the rule of law needs to be applied here and the election was legit and Trump is a fraud. GA isn't pardoning him. To contribute, his discernible out is getting elected president and letting the supreme Court sort out how the hell that works.
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cr0y posted:
There actually is a tenable argument that a State couldn't impose criminal charges on a duly elected sitting President, as that would be unconstitutional interference by a State upon the operation of the federal government. However, in this instance, a Georgia conviction would arguably disqualify Trump from holding federal office anyway under Section 3 of the 14th amendment. quote:Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4532751 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/15/trump-ineligible-14th-amendment-unconstitutional-presidency/
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cr0y posted:And, Kemp basically said that the rule of law needs to be applied here and the election was legit and Trump is a fraud. GA isn't pardoning him. The worry wasn't Kemp himself since he's been pretty vocally anti-Trump. The worry was that the issue of pardoning Trump could become politicized and a candidate that would pardon him wins election. Luckily that's not possible given the current laws in Georgia (there is a non-elected board that processes pardoning). Trump would need the Georgia legislature to change the law around pardoning, then for it to be signed into law by the Governor, and then for the Governor to pardon him. Given the current political makeup of Georgia the chances of that happening are slim to none. The added cherry on top is that SCOTUS has no jurisdiction over Georgia state crimes.
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kemp and the lg coming out as staunchly as they did has been one of the bigger surprises of this so far. it makes sense insofar as the poo poo raffensberger and the others who ended up on the wrong end of trump's pressure campaign went through seemed genuinely horrible, but it still catches me off guard to see republicans actually showing a bit of spine where trump is concerned.
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Seph posted:The worry wasn't Kemp himself since he's been pretty vocally anti-Trump. The worry was that the issue of pardoning Trump could become politicized and a candidate that would pardon him wins election. Luckily that's not possible given the current laws in Georgia (there is a non-elected board that processes pardoning). Trump would need the Georgia legislature to change the law around pardoning, then for it to be signed into law by the Governor, and then for the Governor to pardon him. Given the current political makeup of Georgia the chances of that happening are slim to none. The added cherry on top is that SCOTUS has no jurisdiction over Georgia state crimes. It’s the constitution in Georgia that would need to change from the news I watched/read. So it won’t happen, which is good.
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Google Jeb Bush posted:he doesn't have any discernable outs SCOTUS is always a wildcard
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Fart Amplifier posted:SCOTUS is always a wildcard Seph posted:The added cherry on top is that SCOTUS has no jurisdiction over Georgia state crimes.
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not gbs, sorry
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Fart Amplifier posted:SCOTUS is always a wildcard Please elaborate. To my knowledge SCOTUS has shown absolutely zero inclination to intervene on Trump's behalf since he first disputed the election nearly three years ago. Is there a reason to believe that he would, beyond the popular "In a 6/3 decision...." thought terminating cliche?
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Ynglaur posted:I made the same mistake. "But Tucker Carlson has a bunch of numbers on a screen! They must be true!" If there was actual voter fraud--beyond, you know, the handful of registered Republicans caught doing stupid poo poo--there would 100% have been more than zero people swearing under oath about "what they saw."
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Fart Amplifier posted:SCOTUS is always a wildcard On Georgia State law?
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meadows trying to move fulton county case to federal courtquote:
if the law says a case in state court "may" be removed, i would have hoped the articles author could have written more on what exactly goes in to making that determination. is it really up to the judges discretion or are there additional factors which can compel removal to federal court? of course the trump legal brain trust isn't known for their expert legal theory, and would the da have brought charges if it was a given that the cases would be removed to federal court?
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SCOTUS is always technically a wildcard since they decide their own limits of their jurisdiction and the only out for anyone else is just refusing to abide by their rulings. So they could theoretically decide that, yes the SCOTUS does have primacy over state supreme courts and furthermore gently caress you. I think there is approximately a 0% chance of that happening and a further 0% chance of Georgia abiding by it if they did.
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Nitrousoxide posted:SCOTUS is always technically a wildcard since they decide their own limits of their jurisdiction and the only out for anyone else is just refusing to abide by their rulings. So they could theoretically decide that, yes the SCOTUS does have primacy over state supreme courts and furthermore gently caress you. The crises would be if, say, GA convicted him and then Florida (or whatever state) refused to extradite.
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Trying to overthrow the election is not part of the job description of the president's chief of staff, he isn't getting poo poo moved anywhere.
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