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General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Android Apocalypse posted:


Juneau was cold & rainy when we landed here.


It cleared up a little at Father Brown Cross.

Now to be out of internet range for a while again.

So this is where you go when Seattle gets too hot?

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Braksgirl
Dec 25, 2010

Unofficial Goon Disney travel agent since 2014!

Tens of Goons served!


FizFashizzle posted:

has anyone been on vacation to scandinavia?

I have no idea why but for the past several months I've been thinking constantly about a vacation in norway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L_R-DELtX8

My bestie just did a cruise to Iceland and Norway was one of the stops. It looks amazing!

Abugadu
Jul 12, 2004

1st Sgt. Matthews and the men have Procured for me a cummerbund from a traveling gypsy, who screeched Victory shall come at a Terrible price. i am Honored.
If Vietnam, stop in Hoi An for a little bit as well.

Breakfast banh mi every drat day

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

Scandinavia is apparently amazing but I've heard it's also stupid expensive.

Vietnam your buck is gonna go a lot further.

Abugadu
Jul 12, 2004

1st Sgt. Matthews and the men have Procured for me a cummerbund from a traveling gypsy, who screeched Victory shall come at a Terrible price. i am Honored.
It's also a good time to go to Japan, as the $ vs yen is like the best it's been since 1998 or so.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen

General Dog posted:

So this is where you go when Seattle gets too hot?

I was smart enough to get out of Portland in time. :agesilaus:


One more quick pic where we were hoping to catch the sun set, but it dipped below that ridge before I could get a nice shot.

Oh well, I think it's pretty.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Freaquency posted:

Seeing Beck and Phoenix at Red Rocks and caught a hell of an opener from the parking lot



Holy poo poo, I’m jealous. I saw Beck live back in ~2007 or so, not long after Guero and would love to see him again. Phoenix would probably be a good live show too (I can’t remember if they played a festival I went to before or not). And Red Rocks looks amazing.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Abugadu posted:

It's also a good time to go to Japan, as the $ vs yen is like the best it's been since 1998 or so.

:negative: :negative: :negative: :negative:

It sucks I hate it, stop printing all that loving money you idiots.

Freaquency
May 10, 2007

"Yes I can hear you, I don't have ear cancer!"

harperdc posted:

Holy poo poo, I’m jealous. I saw Beck live back in ~2007 or so, not long after Guero and would love to see him again. Phoenix would probably be a good live show too (I can’t remember if they played a festival I went to before or not). And Red Rocks looks amazing.

I was expecting Beck to put on a great show and he did, but Phoenix loving ruled. They came out of the gate with tons of energy and didn’t let up at all, and hit pretty much every song where you go “oh yeah I know that one”. Their drummer is really, really good too imo. It was a great time.

And Red Rocks is an outstanding venue. Love watching the sunset over the city during a show.


harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Freaquency posted:

And Red Rocks is an outstanding venue. Love watching the sunset over the city during a show.




Feels like a smaller version of the Gorge up in Washington, that was spectacular the times I went up there. Right on the Columbia River up in central Washington.

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH

harperdc posted:

Feels like a smaller version of the Gorge up in Washington, that was spectacular the times I went up there. Right on the Columbia River up in central Washington.


I have fallen asleep here and here during Warp Tour 2001

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Did I tell the story about getting attacked in a bathroom in Hanoi during the super bowl?

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

FizFashizzle posted:

has anyone been on vacation to scandinavia?

I have no idea why but for the past several months I've been thinking constantly about a vacation in norway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L_R-DELtX8

My cousin was just in Finland meeting her boyfriend's parents for the first(?) time, the IG pictures looked nice.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Red Rocks is top tier, smaller or not. Probably best natural acoustics in the USA.

Saw Ween there a few weeks ago. Awesome time.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Saw phantogram and queens of the Stone Age last night

Phantogram sounded like complete poo poo

Queens were fine

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

FizFashizzle posted:

has anyone been on vacation to scandinavia?

Sweden impressions:

Expensive
Alcohol is prohibitively expensive to fight SAD
National speed limit is 100 kph, and yes cops will nail you five minutes after you've picked up your new goddamned car right off the factory floor
Vegetarians will have a bad time, since it's in the Arctic circle and the cuisine reflects that
Nice people who speak English better than I do

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

FizFashizzle posted:

Did I tell the story about getting attacked in a bathroom in Hanoi during the super bowl?

That’s not ringing any bells. Must’ve been a fun morning.

My wife visited Finland with her mom before, not much to add to it.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

FizFashizzle posted:

Did I tell the story about getting attacked in a bathroom in Hanoi during the super bowl?

I don’t remember it, so :jpmf:

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

Amy Pole Her posted:

Red Rocks is top tier, smaller or not. Probably best natural acoustics in the USA.

Saw Ween there a few weeks ago. Awesome time.

It really is incredible. Saw Soundgarden there about 10 years ago. Chris Cornell's hair blowing in the breeze was a moment I'll never forget.

Neil Armbong
Jan 16, 2004

If anybody wants to see, there's a Donkey Kong kill screen coming up.
Pillbug
One of my engineers just went to Norway and Denmark for 10 days and said it was incredible.

Was traveling for what amounts to a wedding for a friend -- was more of a party and hanging out with locals in their town. Said weather and food were top notch.

Nthning Red Rocks awesomeness. Saw Beck and Preservation Hall Jazz Band there a while back and it was a great show.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
In the 90s, if a band released an album called [BAND NAME]: Live at Red Rocks you bought that poo poo

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


swickles posted:

In the 90s, if a band released an album called [BAND NAME]: Live at Red Rocks you bought that poo poo

True. Also Unplugged.

DMB at red rocks is the only DMB worth listening to.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







LeeMajors posted:

True. Also Unplugged.

DMB at red rocks is the only DMB worth listening to.

Not counting work with Tim Reynolds I’m assuming.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
More information on just what an epic poo poo head and dumbass Stockton Rush was.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/titan-submersible-implosion-warnings

quote:

In December 2015, two years before the Titan was built, Rush had lowered a one third scale model of his 4,000-meter-sub-to-be into a pressure chamber and watched it implode at 4,000 psi, a pressure equivalent to only 2,740 meters. The test’s stated goal was to “validate that the pressure vessel design is capable of withstanding an external pressure of 6,000 psi—corresponding to…a depth of about 4,200 meters.” He might have changed course then, stood back for a moment and reconsidered. But he didn’t. Instead, OceanGate issued a press release stating that the test had been a resounding success because it “demonstrates that the benefits of carbon fiber are real.”

...

Lochridge listed more than two dozen items that required immediate attention. These included missing bolts and improperly secured batteries, components zip-tied to the outside of the sub. O-ring grooves were machined incorrectly (which could allow water ingress), seals were loose, a highly flammable, petroleum-based material lined the Titan’s interior. Hosing looped around the sub’s exterior, creating an entanglement risk—especially at a site like the wreck of the Titanic, where spars, pipes, and wires protrude everywhere.

Yet even those deficiencies paled in comparison to what Lochridge observed on the hull. The carbon fiber filament was visibly coming apart, riddled with air gaps, delaminations, and Swiss cheese holes—and there was no way to fix that short of tossing the hull in a dumpster.
...

Ironically, Lochridge had saved Rush from himself at least once before. In June 2016, Rush piloted OceanGate’s shallow-diving sub, the Cyclops 1, to the site of the Andrea Doria, a hulking 700-foot ocean liner and epic entanglement hazard that had sunk in 1956 off Nantucket, in a patch of the Atlantic known for its murky fog and seething currents. The ship lies in 240 feet of turbid water, cobwebbed with discarded fishing lines. At that depth, it is accessible (and just barely) to advanced scuba divers, 18 of whom have died there. Rush was headed down to “capture sonar images of the shipwreck” with Lochridge and three clients.

As chief pilot and the person responsible for operational safety, Lochridge had created a dive plan that included protocols for how to approach the wreck. Any entanglement hazard demands caution and vigilance: touching down at least 50 meters away and surveying the site before coming any closer. Rush disregarded these safety instructions. He landed too close, got tangled in the current, managed to wedge the sub beneath the Andrea Doria’s crumbling bow, and descended into a full-blown panic. Lochridge tried to take the helm, but Rush had refused to let him, melting down for over an hour until finally one of the clients shrieked, “Give him the loving controller!” At which point Rush hurled the controller, a video-game joystick, at Lochridge’s head. Lochridge freed the sub in 15 minutes.

...

On the Titan’s second deep test dive in April 2019—an attempt to reach 4,000 meters in the Bahamas—the sub protested with such bloodcurdling cracking and gunshot noises that its descent was halted at 3,760 meters. Rush was the pilot, and he had taken three passengers on this highly risky plunge. One of them was Karl Stanley, a seasoned submersible pilot who would later describe the noises as “the hull yelling at you.” Stanley was no stranger to risk: He’d built his own experimental unclassed sub and operated it in Honduras. But even he was so rattled by the dive that he wrote several emails to Rush urging him to postpone the Titan’s commercial debut, less than two months away.

The carbon fiber was breaking down, Stanley believed: “I think that hull has a defect near that flange that will only get worse. The only question in my mind is will it fail catastrophically or not.” He advised Rush to step back and conduct 50 unmanned test dives before any other humans got into the sub. True to form, Rush dismissed the advice—“One experiential data point is not sufficient to determine the integrity of the hull”—telling Stanley to “keep your opinions to yourself.”

“I remember him saying at one point to me that one of the reasons why he had me on that dive was he expected that I would be able to keep my mouth shut about anything that was of a sensitive nature,” Stanley told me in a phone interview.

“Like what?” I asked.

“I don’t think he wanted everybody knowing about the cracking sounds.”

...

Now the reports are emerging about the plague of problems on OceanGate’s 2021 and 2022 Titanic expeditions; more dives scrubbed or aborted than completed—for an assortment of reasons from major to minor. A communications system that never much worked. Battery problems, electrical problems, sonar problems, navigation problems. A thruster installed backward. Ballast weights that wouldn’t release. (On one dive, Rush instructed the Titan’s occupants to rock the sub back and forth at abyssal depths in an attempt to dislodge the sewer pipes he used to achieve negative buoyancy.) Getting all the way down to the seafloor and then fumbling around for hours trying to find the wreck. (“I mean, how do you not find a 50,000 ton ship?” Lahey asked me, incredulous, in July 2022.)

One group had been trapped inside the sub for 27 hours, stuck on the balky launch and recovery platform. Other “mission specialists” were sealed inside the sub for up to five hours before it launched, sweltering in sauna-like conditions. Arthur Loibl, a German businessman who dove in 2021, described it to the Associated Press as a “kamikaze operation.”

...

One person involved in the recovery effort, who wishes to remain anonymous, told me that the wreckage itself was proof that no one aboard the sub had suffered: “From what I saw of all the remaining bits and pieces, it was so violent and so fast.”

“What did the carbon fiber look like?” I asked.

“There was no piece I saw anywhere that had its original five-inch thickness,” he said. “Just shards and bits…. It was truly catastrophic. It was shredded.”

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


FizFashizzle posted:

Not counting work with Tim Reynolds I’m assuming.

Let me rephrase that I think DMB is fine but I was never a fanatic. Red Rocks is a loving warm, lovely album and I have a lot of nostalgia for it from my youth.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
So uh

Should I be worried

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1692147791777137020

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

More information on just what an epic poo poo head and dumbass Stockton Rush was.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/titan-submersible-implosion-warnings

lol christ.

If he had broken the controller when he threw it, we'd be talking about what an idiot he was seven years ago

MaximilianK
Jan 8, 2022

FizFashizzle posted:

Saw phantogram and queens of the Stone Age last night

Phantogram sounded like complete poo poo

Queens were fine

I was at the same show last week and the sound person for Phantogram was loving awful. The levels were so poorly done. Sarah Barthel also looks like she's using again.

Donald - 6'1" 285lbs

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Board her up! Board her up!

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

More information on just what an epic poo poo head and dumbass Stockton Rush was.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/titan-submersible-implosion-warnings

lol pure distilled tech bro engineer wannabe

If only Elon was brave enough to kill himself with inert gases or devastating deep sea pressures.

He’s at least rich enough to hire smart people who know how to minimize his bullshit and preserve most safeguards.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



You have to be wary of those coastal elites a neat cape.

LeeMajors posted:

lol pure distilled tech bro engineer wannabe

If only Elon was brave enough to kill himself with inert gases or devastating deep sea pressures.

He’s at least rich enough to hire smart people who know how to minimize his bullshit and preserve most safeguards.

If only all billionaires were as daring a go getter as sub guy.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Are you in a flood zone? If not, a couple days of rain and a lil wind won't kill ya.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Shinji2015 posted:

lol christ.

If he had broken the controller when he threw it, we'd be talking about what an idiot he was seven years ago

We never would have known about it. One hallmark of all his dives was routinely losing communication for a large percentage of the trip.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







MaximilianK posted:

I was at the same show last week and the sound person for Phantogram was loving awful. The levels were so poorly done. Sarah Barthel also looks like she's using again.

My exact thoughts

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

swickles posted:

We never would have known about it. One hallmark of all his dives was routinely losing communication for a large percentage of the trip.

It seems rather impressive how much we just flat out knew how to do things from a hundred + years of vessels being underwater that he completely ignored. As in people who were experienced in this type of thing would just give him advice: this works, do it. And his answer was always no.

Forrest on Fire
Nov 23, 2012


That depends, do you have information that will lead to the storm's arrest?

a sexual elk
May 16, 2007


Time to rake all the leaves into my yard river and let nature handle the rest

Pontius Pilate
Jul 25, 2006

Crucify, Whale, Crucify

Grittybeard posted:

It seems rather impressive how much we just flat out knew how to do things from a hundred + years of vessels being underwater that he completely ignored. As in people who were experienced in this type of thing would just give him advice: this works, do it. And his answer was always no.

I still can’t properly fathom how broke-brained you have to be to cut corners and ignore all the red flags for the design of a vessel that’s going to be thousands of feet underwater. Like did he never watch a submarine movie

JPrime
Jul 4, 2007

tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales!
College Slice

Pontius Pilate posted:

I still can’t properly fathom how broke-brained you have to be to cut corners and ignore all the red flags for the design of a vessel that’s going to be thousands of feet underwater. Like did he never watch a submarine movie

gotta have that billionaire mindset

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Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
I think it was just pure arrogance. He thought he knew better than other people with far more experience and knowledge and was willing to risk his life - and others - to prove it.

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