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Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost
My lovely tiny credit union's website has joined the club. They added 2FA, but it wont remember the browser. They added 2FA to their app at the same time, and neither will it remember you, the Apple automagic of the 6 digit code being autofilled doesn't work. Once inside, they changed the layout of the website to make it like Mint or whatever, but its just a checking and savings account. There's two different fields where its repeating the same poo poo. Finally, they refuse access from a privacy VPN Overnight their website went from being relatively decent to completely useless, which now means their entire service is useless to me, and I'll be switching credit unions.

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Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Perfect way to make money as a time traveler though, start subscription services. There was absolutely enough technology in the 1890's to start a subscription service for men's shirts, it's just no one was lovely enough to come up with the idea.

Subscription services only work because of electronic banking with automatically recurring charges. Nobody's going to forget to cancel their shirt subscription when they have to consciously go pay for it every month.

bossy lady
Jul 9, 1983

mawarannahr posted:

they used to have an excellent cat screen saver with updating photos. they got rid of it?

For me its always been a scrolling cityscape. Now its a scrolling cityscape with mcdonalds and acura dealerships

erosion
Dec 21, 2002

It's true and I'm tired of pretending it isn't

bossy lady posted:

For me its always been a scrolling cityscape. Now its a scrolling cityscape with mcdonalds and acura dealerships

Digital clock supremacy

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

DrBouvenstein posted:

They're desperate attempt at trying to be some kind of actual social media site is killing it.

You can't upload images to it on mobile without the app, AFAIK. I even tried clicking the "Use Desktop Site" option in Chrome mobile, and it worked until the actual upload then it failed.

This is the bananas workaround I use:
The Awful App. It has a direct "Imgur" upload button, so make a post you never intend to post, use that to upload the image, then copy the actual Imgur link and paste it where you need it.

There are third party websites built specifically for users to upload to imgur without the app, which is kind of hilarious.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Cerekk posted:

Subscription services only work because of electronic banking with automatically recurring charges. Nobody's going to forget to cancel their shirt subscription when they have to consciously go pay for it every month.

Yeah, its the gym/ porn site method

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




bossy lady posted:

The screensaver on my roku has ads for mcdonalds and acura sneakily embedded into it.

I'm not an Apple person at all, but I got so fed up with Roku and Amazon devices that I switched to Apple TV, and it is leagues better. No menu lag. No ads. The interface hasn't changed since I got it. They don't even force you to do any Apple stuff.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

Fitzy Fitz posted:

I'm not an Apple person at all, but I got so fed up with Roku and Amazon devices that I switched to Apple TV, and it is leagues better. No menu lag. No ads. The interface hasn't changed since I got it. They don't even force you to do any Apple stuff.

::squints at thread title::
::looks at watch::

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


It would make sense for Apple to sell smart TVs that solve many of the probkems of regular smart TVs but cost $10,000. Selling de-enshittified tech to rich people for absurd markups has been a pillar of their business for a long time.

Riatsala
Nov 20, 2013

All Princesses are Tyrants

Cerekk posted:

Subscription services only work because of electronic banking with automatically recurring charges. Nobody's going to forget to cancel their shirt subscription when they have to consciously go pay for it every month.

On the other hand, if Enrique is handling all of your petty recurring payments, is that so different?

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски

Woolie Wool posted:

It would make sense for Apple to sell smart TVs that solve many of the probkems of regular smart TVs but cost $10,000. Selling de-enshittified tech to rich people for absurd markups has been a pillar of their business for a long time.

It's like in game purchases. Just sell the drat thing for 300 bucks and everything be unlocked.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
I dont know why Disney+ and Chromecast seem to never work with one another but boy, am I not thrilled having to pay for a streaming service that freezes up the two devices I use them on! We hit the correct button to cast aaaaaand nothing, time to reset the Chromecast manually.

Normally Id think oh my iPhone is having a real one, but my partner has an Android and its the same issue, over the two Chromecasts we have, which Im certain are two different generations

All other streaming services work fine on all devices, but Disney+ is like HBO Nordic bad

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Chromecasts are a perfect example for this thread. The first one I got worked perfectly when I bought it. Then it steadily got worse with each update to the point where it was crashing every time I tried to use it.

Then I got a TV with a Chromecast built in and it somehow was even worse.

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

Woolie Wool posted:

It would make sense for Apple to sell smart TVs that solve many of the probkems of regular smart TVs but cost $10,000. Selling de-enshittified tech to rich people for absurd markups has been a pillar of their business for a long time.

Sony rates high on privacy according to consumer reports. I cant say their smart tvs dont suffer from android jankiness though.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
uploading images in the Android app the image picker's "recent files" is now ordered by some insane algorithm so a screenshot I just took is now halfway down the page past screenshots I took 3 days ago.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Internet Old One posted:

Sony rates high on privacy according to consumer reports. I cant say their smart tvs dont suffer from android jankiness though.

77 million users details were stolen in the 2011 PSN hack.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

is pepsi ok posted:

Chromecasts are a perfect example for this thread. The first one I got worked perfectly when I bought it. Then it steadily got worse with each update to the point where it was crashing every time I tried to use it.

Then I got a TV with a Chromecast built in and it somehow was even worse.

Ive had a few and usually its work fine until WHOOPS NOW NOTHING WORKS FINE, no degrade, just a sudden drop off.

My partner and I are holding on to his 10+ year old Sony until we can find a bloat-free alternative. Im perfectly fine with Chromecast (until it implodes) or even trying to convince him for an Apple TV. I dont need a TV with random poo poo in it.

Anything beyond the time and the ability to nix soap opera mode is a waste and a turn off in a TV. Im hardly a Luddite but Ill turn straight Uncle Ted* if my TV is advertising within its UI/UX.

*within the law

Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver

is pepsi ok posted:

Chromecasts are a perfect example for this thread. The first one I got worked perfectly when I bought it. Then it steadily got worse with each update to the point where it was crashing every time I tried to use it.

Then I got a TV with a Chromecast built in and it somehow was even worse.

I'm still limping along on early-gen chromecasts for as long as possible, I have to do a hard unplug/plug-in reset every few weeks or else they start glitching like crazy. But the smartTV built-ins are such utter poo poo that I won't migrate over until I absolutely have to, and will probably just plug a laptop into an HDMI input and run things directly from there before I have to succumb to smartTV fail-tech.

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

Laserface posted:

77 million users details were stolen in the 2011 PSN hack.

Yeah I avoided them for awhile but basically came back on TVs because LG and samsung are basically spyware pushed by even less ethical companies.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
My mom clung to her JVC SD CRT until it literally popped and now after seeing her accursed Samsung bloatware TV, I regret not somehow finding her another CRT.

Why the gently caress does it need to take goddamn ten seconds to press a button and get a response. What. Why. No one wants this.

Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver

teen witch posted:

My mom clung to her JVC SD CRT until it literally popped and now after seeing her accursed Samsung bloatware TV, I regret not somehow finding her another CRT.

Why the gently caress does it need to take goddamn ten seconds to press a button and get a response. What. Why. No one wants this.

Gotta get the userbase used to the delay so they can fill those ten seconds with ads in-between menus

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

I always wonder how much of this is due to UX teams going from being a vital part of every tech company to being seen as a completely useless money sink that you should lay off to boost those profits.

Wilkins Micawber
Jan 27, 2005

as we leave this existence
looking for another
Fallen Rib

Serious_Cyclone posted:

Gotta get the userbase used to the delay so they can fill those ten seconds with ads in-between menus

Don't say this. :(


I'm waiting for the day of a TV that lacks a mute button. I bet there is some kinda patent out there.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

is pepsi ok posted:

I always wonder how much of this is due to UX teams going from being a vital part of every tech company to being seen as a completely useless money sink that you should lay off to boost those profits.

Depends on the industry I'd say. A bank loving up their app could just be development problems/lack of UX.

most of the stuff that drives me crazy though, I guarantee the problem is from Sales getting final say on feature changes/removals, based on Statistics. I assume a lot of these companies still have UX teams but completely ignore what they say when there's even a chance at this quarter being 2% up revenue on data extraction sales or whatever

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Wilkins Micawber posted:

Don't say this. :(


I'm waiting for the day of a TV that lacks a mute button. I bet there is some kinda patent out there.

My 2 year old cheap smartTV came without a mute button.

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

Wilkins Micawber posted:

Don't say this. :(


I'm waiting for the day of a TV that lacks a mute button. I bet there is some kinda patent out there.

lol wasnt that part of the Telescreens in 1984 or am I misremberimg? you couldnt mute it but you could turn the volume down

also I recall at one point Winston figures out its line of sight so he knew where to stand in his lovely apartment for some privacy lmao

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


i know it's not workable for many peoples living situations but a decent PC hooked up to a modern TV (that you never connect to the wifi) is really the best way to watch most media. i got handed down a few years old 55" 4k samsung tv from a family member and it's fantastic. ublock origin to block ads and you're sorted. does 120hz with a low input lag mode as well so it's also decent for gaming on too, i think most newer TVs can work well enough compared to a PC monitor.

any time i'm at a family members watching things on a TV just seems like a massive UI nightmare full of ads and it drives me nuts.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

wizard2 posted:

lol wasnt that part of the Telescreens in 1984 or am I misremberimg? you couldnt mute it but you could turn the volume down

also I recall at one point Winston figures out its line of sight so he knew where to stand in his lovely apartment for some privacy lmao

The exercises scene is real but instead of a mean government lady, you get a nice lady in yoga pants. All this for a cool 25 bucks a month on top of a 2000 dollar machine that will eat your child.

Peloton, Motivation that Moves You

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer

Woolie Wool posted:

It would make sense for Apple to sell smart TVs that solve many of the probkems of regular smart TVs but cost $10,000. Selling de-enshittified tech to rich people for absurd markups has been a pillar of their business for a long time.

Apple de-enshittifies tech, and then proceeds to re-enshittify it, just with Apple branded shittification.

I would be cutting blank checks to a company that is actually making good, de-enshittified stuff

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

here's a recent article about something that got lovely
Google Maps has become an eyesore. 5 examples of how the app has lost its way

www.fastcompany.com posted:

In the perennial battle among mapping services, there are two main competitors: Google Maps and Apple Maps. Google Maps was first out of the gate, in 2005, and has since introduced some truly revolutionary features, such as Street View and real-time business foot traffic. Those types of innovations have enabled Google Maps to become the most-used consumer maps service in the world: In February 2020, The Washington Post estimated that it had an 80% mobile market share.

But part of Google Mapss success, at least on mobile, was due to Apple. Google Maps was the default mapping provider on iPhones until 2012, when Apple debuted its own mapping solution, Apple Maps. Apples offering did not get off to a great start, but in the decade since, Apple Maps has become a stellar mapping service on many fronts.

Google Maps still holds around 80% of the mobile market. But in recent years, Ive found myself getting increasingly frustrated with the Google Maps experience, especially when it comes to general navigation and exploration of a map area.

Here are the five main reasons Google Maps has become a cluttered, frustrating messand why I find myself turning to Apple Maps more often.

## Enough with the hotel and bar pins

Whenever Im in a major metropolitan area, Google Maps seems to have an obsession with displaying as many hotels, bars, and clubs on the map as it can. This happens even when I havent searched for a single hotel or bar. And it happens not only when Im on vacation in a new city, but when Im in my home city. Google knows my home address. So, why on Earth does it default to showing me as many hotels as possible in the city where I live?

The same is true of clubs and bars. I see pins for more dance clubs and bars in one small area shown on my smartphones display than Ive ever actually been to in my life. Google knows Im middle-aged and get up early to work. When Im just browsing the map, can it really think I might care about the nearest club where patrons normally dont leave until well past midnight?

By displaying all these irrelevant hotels and bars, Google makes it much harder to browse and navigate the map, since frequently the pins labels overlap or obscure more important elements, such as the shape and layout of streets.

## Too many ads clutter the map

The square pins you see in Google Maps are ad pins. They represent a place of business (a hotel, spa, etc.) that is paying Google to make sure its displayed on the map, despite the businesss irrelevance to me. Again, ad pins for hotels dominate, but right behind them are ad pins for restaurants with small text underneath them imploring me to Order Delivery with Uber Eats, which just further clutters the map.

Google is, of course, first and foremost an advertising company. Data compiled by Oberlo showed that 78.2% of its Q1 2023 total revenue of $69.8 billion came from ads. But its enthusiasm for placing ads in every corner of Google Maps just makes it all the more cluttered and increasingly hard to read. And thats before we even get to

## Photo pins signify what, exactly?

Google Maps identifies points of interest primarily by pin color and glyph: Hotels are represented by a pink pin with an image of a person sleeping in a bed, restaurants get an orange pin with a fork and knife, and so forth. Regular pins, denoting businesses or other points of interest, are reverse teardrop-shaped, while ad pins are square-shaped. But, since last year, there is also now a third form: the photo pin.

As best as I can tell, a photo pin is a pin for a business, but instead of a typical category glyph, it shows a large photo ostensibly related to the establishment. These pins dont appear to signify that the business is notable in any way. (I mean, Im sure Ive seen photo pins for muffler repair shopsnot exactly a tourist attraction.)

The photo pin might be the ultimate map monopolizer. Its bigger, and the photo, seemingly pulled from a businesss Google Maps listing, doesnt always even represent the business well. One photo pin I came across, oddly, seemed to show a photo of the dumpsters behind a restaurant. This just adds to user confusion and more clutter. It isnt helping the business, either.

## I have no interest in someones work-from-home business

Another major contributor to Google Maps being an eyesore these days is a holdover from the pandemic when so many people were stuck working from homeor decided to begin offering their services from home. It is not uncommon to be browsing a residential area on Google Maps and be faced with a sea of work-from-home business pins.

The number of consultant businesses Ive seen in residential areas on Google Maps has been shocking. The same goes for web designers, app programmers, and handymenall of whom operate out of their residential homes. These may all be legitimate businesses run by self-employed people, but why on earth does Google Maps surface their listings on maps if they never have a single client enter their doors and, more important, if Ive not searched for a provider of any of these services?

Clutter, clutter, clutter.

## Why wont you show me the street name?

Finally, Google Maps seems more intent today on showing bars, restaurants, ads, and work-from-home businesses than useful map-related features. Sometimes it doesnt even show the most basic information anymore, includingstreet names.

Many times I just want to see the name of the street Im standing on. So, I open Google Maps and zoom in on my current location. Yet no matter how far in I zoom in, Google Maps doesnt always apply a label to the street Im standing on. It just remains blank. Of course, business pins I have no interest in are still prominently displayed.

A workaround Ive stumbled upon whenever this happens is to select a business pin on the next street over. When Google Maps centers on that, it for some reason will label the street Im standing on.

Among all the gripes on this list, I think this one is my biggest. If my ad-hoc workaround doesnt work, I often have to open Apple Maps just to look up the name of the street Im on.

## But for now, Im stuck with Google Maps

All of the clutter that gets in the way of using the actual map makes me want to quit Google Maps for good. At the very least, Google should give users the option of hiding certain types of pinssay, hotels, for example.

But as much as Id like to abandon Google Maps for the increasingly more user-friendly Apple Maps, I cant. Despite Apple Maps making huge gains in usability, navigation, and user interface each year, Apples mapping solution still lacks when it comes to point-of-interest information. And as annoyed as I am by all those unwanted pins on my screen, I still often need some of those points of interest, such as popular times, live foot traffic data, reviews, photos, and other useful data that help me plan an outing. Its nice to know peak wait times for a restaurant and how long customers typically spend there.

Only Google Maps offers all that, so they still have me for now. But please, Google, Ill let you know when Im looking for hotels.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

List things in chronological order

Nooooooo

bossy lady
Jul 9, 1983

teen witch posted:

Why the gently caress does it need to take goddamn ten seconds to press a button and get a response. What. Why. No one wants this.

I recently worked on a project where I got to use a Samsung development TV. We got to peer behind the veil and look at the OS with root privileges and let me tell you they're massive pieces of crap. Basically a bunch of annoying poo poo bolted onto linux

Managed to render the TV unbootable by just messing with the user-controlled application data.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I assume the delay is them sending all your info back to Seattle or where ever

ryde
Sep 9, 2011

God I love young girls

Outrail posted:

Imgur loving sucks. Give me the goddamn jpg url don't make me click a hundred buttons and gently caress about with editing the url every time. You're an image hosting service, know your place.

Imgur desperately wants to be come a social network. Its not gonna happen.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Canine Blues Arooo posted:

Apple de-enshittifies tech, and then proceeds to re-enshittify it, just with Apple branded shittification.

I would be cutting blank checks to a company that is actually making good, de-enshittified stuff

I don't really use Apple stuff but from my casual acquaintance Apple enshittifies the internals of their products rather than the UX amd their rich customers are happy to throw their Apple products away and buy new ones. It's an enshittification you don't notice if you make $400k and don't give a gently caress about the environment.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Woolie Wool posted:

I don't really use Apple stuff but from my casual acquaintance Apple enshittifies the internals of their products rather than the UX amd their rich customers are happy to throw their Apple products away and buy new ones. It's an enshittification you don't notice if you make $400k and don't give a gently caress about the environment.

Oh they enshittify the UX like the best of them.

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer

Woolie Wool posted:

I don't really use Apple stuff but from my casual acquaintance Apple enshittifies the internals of their products rather than the UX amd their rich customers are happy to throw their Apple products away and buy new ones. It's an enshittification you don't notice if you make $400k and don't give a gently caress about the environment.

The UX of Apple products is generally pretty great until you actually need the device to do something. As long as you keep your relationship with Apple firmly in the camp of 'toy' and not 'tool', they generally do OK, but the closer you get to the spectrum of 'tool', the more the software of their products starts to really suck.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Professor Shark posted:

Canadian specific, but Loblaws aka Superstore used to make really good in-house sour cream glaze and chocolate glaze doughnuts, sold in plastic containers (as opposed to their other ones, which are not as good and in cardboard boxes).

They stopped selling them last year and replaced them with some shittier versions by a brand called “Donut Time”.

It sucks and I emailed them to complain but they would not accept it because I didn’t have an item number for the doughnuts they stopped selling.

In another "Galen Weston is the world's worst person" pile, Superstore upped the amount you need to spend to get their free gift. It used to be that if you spent $250 on groceries you get a free gift usually a product package (like a kraft summer BBQ kit with a bunch of sauces or something) but occasionally something actually worthwhile like a really nice quality turkey roasting pan I use every Thanksgiving. A month or so ago, in line with them arbitrarily ratcheting up their prices on all foodstuffs so much so that I have no idea what anything costs at any given time, they changed it to a $300. It's not like it's aligning things with inflation either as 90% of their giveaways are sponsored things from companies like Nestlé or Pepsi, the rest is clearly overstocked stuff they need to clear out of the warehouse like Tupperware.

It's been complete garbage since too. The most recent one was a 'back to school' pack of fruit cups. Good stuff.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

The UX of Apple products is generally pretty great until you actually need the device to do something. As long as you keep your relationship with Apple firmly in the camp of 'toy' and not 'tool', they generally do OK.
I disagree. The UX is not generally pretty great, but it is also not a toy and there is some powerful stuff you can do on mobile with eg shortcuts. if you like to took around the terminal is right there on macOS.

However, the UX is still better than most things out there you can buy.

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Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer

mawarannahr posted:

I disagree. The UX is not generally pretty great, but it is also not a toy and there is some powerful stuff you can do on mobile with eg shortcuts. if you like to took around the terminal is right there on macOS.

However, the UX is still better than most things out there you can buy.

"powerful stuff" compared to a phone. Completely pathetic compared to any other computer. I have a pile of examples of how MacOS just doesn't let you flip or turn a knob from when I was forced to use that trashfire of an OS for development, but my favorite is probably asking people to turn off Mouse Acceleration on MacOS. You can gently caress with .GlobalPreferences, but it won't persist between restarts :P. Just a quintessential MacOS experience, that one.

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