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icantfindaname posted:I'm trying to get an entry level programming job now, moving from *data science*, haven't gotten a single call back except from Epic which proactively reached out to me Woke Mind Virus posted:boss has been interviewing programmers and remarked that "the candidates keep getting older and older" mid/senior level roles are so rough right now and i basically never see entry level stuff. it's not surprising that the candidates are older as a result. for some unknown reason a place that i thought would autoreject me actually bit on an application and set me up for a phone screen which i did, and now it seems to be leading into an interview loop as scheduling allows. the hiring process looks to be a nightmare though with a written exercise that has a whole set of data to evaluate and would probably take like 15-20 hours to do well, plus all the subsequent interviews. the listed pay range is absolutely disgusting though so i have to at least try. it isn't my primary opportunity right now though as there's another i'm really interested in. it's just so hard when you never know what any given interviewers want to hear with these behavioral sessions.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:06 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:20 |
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Woke Mind Virus posted:boss has been interviewing programmers and remarked that "the candidates keep getting older and older" Not shocking when businesses keep asking for a combination of skills + degree for entry level positions you can't acquire until you're old
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:07 |
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icantfindaname posted:I'm trying to get an entry level programming job now, moving from *data science*, haven't gotten a single call back except from Epic which proactively reached out to me A guy I work with now ended up in food service for a while because he left Epic and they aggressively enforced their non-compete. lol
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:08 |
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triple sulk posted:mid/senior level roles are so rough right now and i basically never see entry level stuff. it's not surprising that the candidates are older as a result. Mid/senior/lead are meaningless in tech wrt the larger world, they're almost entirely descriptors for time in. I was a 'lead' at my last job and I've never had direct reports. I was on a team with three other 'leads'
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:09 |
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Stereotype posted:it's in the dane county bubble though, so it could be worse verona isn't that far from madison but that whole area sucks rear end in general unless you really enjoy cycling and college football
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:11 |
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do you have to use something fucky like MUMPS for epic?
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:11 |
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man I am so glad I went to law school
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:13 |
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mawarannahr posted:do you have to use something fucky like MUMPS for epic? Epic is an insanely miserable place to work. So bad that they do their best to hire kids out of college and strand them on a fantasy campus in Wisconsin, and the minute those kids dare leave they stick them with insanely restrictive non-competes. Epic is a garbage company that makes trash.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:13 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Mid/senior/lead are meaningless in tech wrt the larger world, they're almost entirely descriptors for time in. I was a 'lead' at my last job and I've never had direct reports. I was on a team with three other 'leads' definitely accurate, but good luck nonetheless to people with less than a year or two of professional experience because it's hard for people with 10-20 years
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:13 |
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out of curiosity I looked at my corps junior dev job postings and they all have dumb requirements like 3 year’s experience lmao. if you have 3 years experience you are not junior. the last 3 people I hired to my org had 0 experience and they all turned out fantastic. gently caress degrees gently caress experience I go off vibes
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:14 |
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euphronius posted:man I am so glad I went to law school Please do not attempt to trick lurkers into becoming lawyers.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:15 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Epic is an insanely miserable place to work. So bad that they do their best to hire kids out of college and strand them on a fantasy campus in Wisconsin, and the minute those kids dare leave they stick them with insanely restrictive non-competes. Epic is a garbage company that makes trash. I dodged a bullet. Pre-covid a friend of mine applied for a job there and asked if I wanted to join him in applying. I didn't have the money to make a multi-state move and had heard that Epic burns out its workers really quickly, so I declined. Sounds like I made a good decision (for once). gently caress the tech industry. They expect you to come out of the uterus with ten years of experience and then piss and moan about how "nobody wants to work anymore ". F_Shit_Fitzgerald has issued a correction as of 02:18 on Aug 18, 2023 |
# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:15 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Epic is an insanely miserable place to work. So bad that they do their best to hire kids out of college and strand them on a fantasy campus in Wisconsin, and the minute those kids dare leave they stick them with insanely restrictive non-competes. Epic is a garbage company that makes trash. practically speaking, verona may as well be as far from madison as janesville is
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:15 |
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triple sulk posted:definitely accurate, but good luck nonetheless to people with less than a year or two of professional experience because it's hard for people with 10-20 years ime software dev generalists are being wrecked right now because of the Learn To Code push, business knowledge is more important than being able to code right now I got hired where I'm at right now solely on my experience with healthcare payor data structure knowledge, they're teaching me the tech stack because they need that stuff so bad that they're fine with me being useless for six months while I get up to speed.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:16 |
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there're a lot of online resources for mapping seniority/pay these days so there's less ambiguity e.g., levels.fyi seeing fresh grads stressing themselves about hitting arbitrary TC (e.g., 200K) is pretty funny
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:17 |
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you'd probably be better served learning cobol than bothering with epic anything. too bad every one of those jobs appears to automatically require a decade of experience in z/os mainframe jobs. i could be wrong but it seems very chill and slow if you loving hate the move fast and break things mantra
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:18 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I got hired where I'm at right now solely on my experience with healthcare payor data structure knowledge, they're teaching me the tech stack because they need that stuff so bad that they're fine with me being useless for six months while I get up to speed. drat that owns
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:18 |
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shrike82 posted:there're a lot of online resources for mapping seniority/pay these days so there's less ambiguity e.g., levels.fyi just went there and lmao that Linkedin is paying an average $335k/yr TC to make Facebook But Less Racist
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:18 |
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triple sulk posted:you'd probably be better served learning cobol than bothering with epic anything. too bad every one of those jobs appears to automatically require a decade of experience in z/os mainframe jobs. i could be wrong but it seems very chill and slow if you loving hate the move fast and break things mantra I worked with Z/OS at two previous jobs and they don't pay you for knowing cobol, they pay you for knowing the IBM ecosphere and it is insanely weird and hosed up
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:19 |
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Lol AFGE highlights new survey results, asks NSF to reconsider return-to-office plans federalnewsnetwork.com posted:After the National Science Foundation, like many federal agencies, announced return-to-office plans for its employees, the American Federation of Government Employees is calling on the agency to take a step back.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:22 |
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Lmao Statement by Secretary Vilsack Regarding USMCA Dispute Settlement Panel Request on Mexico’s Agricultural Biotechnology Measures www.usda.gov posted:WASHINGTON, August 17, 2023 – U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack issued the following statement regarding today’s announcement by the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) that the United States has requested the establishment of a dispute settlement panel with Mexico under the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) in regard to Mexico’s agricultural biotechnology policies.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:24 |
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I forget: is this Mexico daring to do something that actually benefits its people to the detriment (perceived or real) of our imperial government?
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:26 |
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RealityWarCriminal posted:drat that owns that's right
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:28 |
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euphronius posted:man I am so glad I went to law school Would be lying if I said I wasn't considering it as a lifeboat from academia.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:28 |
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Mandoric posted:Yau cari qrodadIq tiqvre ouf vbaf fbiz nnaens, iiqbf?
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:29 |
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Azuth0667 posted:Would be lying if I said I wasn't considering it as a lifeboat from academia. Lawyers are all insanely weird and hosed up too
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:31 |
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seeing a real problem with human beings here
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:31 |
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I forget: is this Mexico daring to do something that actually benefits its people to the detriment (perceived or real) of our imperial government? America says Mexico is being unscientific because it threatens Big Corn, and that it is doing this for protectionism. Mexico wants to ban GMO corn for people and change the requirements for what they use for livestock. Mexico argues they harm native varieties and impose health risks. you can think about glyphosate (roundup) i guess -- you can't use it on living non-GMO corns, although some use it as a desiccant on non-GMO after the harvest.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:42 |
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our corn gets an extra dose of freedom (glyphosate) and Mexico has always hated freedom
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:44 |
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Meanwhile in protectionism Commerce Issues Preliminary Determinations of Antidumping Duty Investigations of Tin Mill Products from Canada, the People’s Republic of China, Germany, the Republic of Korea, the Netherlands, Taiwan, the Republic of Turkey, and the United Kingdom www.commerce.gov posted:Today, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced that imports of tin mill products from the People’s Republic of China, Canada, and Germany are being unfairly priced, i.e., dumped, into the U.S. market, as part of its antidumping duty (AD) investigations. Commerce also preliminarily finds that imports of tin mill products from the Republic of Korea, the Netherlands, Taiwan, Turkey, and the United Kingdom are not being dumped.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:51 |
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US Steel closed its tinmill plants in 2022 and they're now getting takeover bids. I think they're trying to improve its competitiveness so it doesnt get taken over. If you don't have steel, you dont have a country.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 02:59 |
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RealityWarCriminal posted:US Steel closed its tinmill plants in 2022 and they're now getting takeover bids. I think they're trying to improve its competitiveness so it doesnt get taken over. If you don't have steel, you dont have a country. I'm sure we can find a way to shutter the Gary Works in the name of capitalist profit seeking.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 03:30 |
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I would recommend Epic if you are young enough to deal with their grind, get a TS position and get as many certs as you can in the time you can stand to be there, take a year off to wait out the non-compete and then completely loving ball out as a consultant.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 03:33 |
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US Steel was considering a $7.2b takeover bid. lol. 1/4th a twitter
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 03:38 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Please do not attempt to trick lurkers into becoming lawyers. in order to escape being a lawyer, each serving lawyer must convince or trick someone else into going to law school
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:US Steel was considering a $7.2b takeover bid. lol. 1/4th a twitter you cant be a real country unless you have overgrown social media giants and a huge fire sector. it helps if you have some kind of a manufacturing base, or some natural resources, but at the very least you need a bunch of social media companies
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 03:42 |
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cat botherer posted:haha, applied to a data science job there yesterday. Scab
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 04:06 |
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Suffering from success... https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1692360992506761374
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 04:19 |
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Ozempic is going to have some sort of horrible long-term effects that will only be discovered when 40% of the population is on it long term https://twitter.com/raphaels7/status/1662021374276255746
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Did they uh forget all of that? If we just transfer over to corporate serfdom, no one will be vested in poo poo. I guess they just don't care since you can build modern police states in ways that fascist regimes of the past could only dream of. YES they forgot it because those people died and their idiot children and other idiots who grew up in this poo poo loving it are in charge and they’re loving GREEDY IDIOT SCUM
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