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sleep with the vicious posted:What would the government do about it?? Like bro how would tax credits help in this situation and god replied "I sent you a warning, a boat, and a helicopter! But you didn't operate a Pell Grant funded small business in a people of color neighborhood for at least three years..."
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JesusIsTehCool posted:Totally stressing out about Hilary hitting LA. So many unhoused people live in storm drains and flood plains and the city doesn't even have a plan, forget about them acting on it. hundreds of people could die in the next few days. For LA this will be like a decent winter storm (not the apocalypse). Hopefully the people in the drainage areas migrate to a safer place. There's gonna be way more problems in the desert.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 22:46 |
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I wonder if you can sound the siren in short bursts or something so it doesn’t sound like a normal tsunami siren, but as a “hey that sounds weird i wonder what’s going on, better check the news” siren
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 22:50 |
L.A has been under a blizzard warning and a tropical storm warning in the same year. Never seen anything like either in my life and lol.
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Animal-Mother posted:and god replied "I sent you a warning, a boat, and a helicopter! But you didn't operate a Pell Grant funded small business in a people of color neighborhood for at least three years..." absolutely
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 23:00 |
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JesusIsTehCool posted:Totally stressing out about Hilary hitting LA. So many unhoused people live in storm drains and flood plains and the city doesn't even have a plan, forget about them acting on it. hundreds of people could die in the next few days. I imagine our strategy is to ignore the deaths and not report on them so it doesn't matter
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Evil_Greven posted:i feel like the obvious response is 'people can see a loving fire at night you imbeciles the point is to wake them up' Nope, people are so conditioned to sirens meaning tsunami that they would have thrown themselves into the flames to escape the incoming wave.
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 23:13 |
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SirPablo posted:There's gonna be way more problems in the desert. They went on forever and the skies were always full of deadly little clouds
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# ? Aug 18, 2023 23:39 |
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WPC has never done a High Risk in the SW.
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SirPablo posted:WPC has never done a High Risk in the SW.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I was watching Tropical Tidbits' video on this storm, and a lot of the impacts are going to depend on whether it mostly stays off the coast before going inland into CA, or if it decides to go inland over Baja California. If it stays more offshore that is bad for SD/LA The eastern slopes of the coastal ranges (deserts) are going to be screwed regardless of the exact track. There is also an upper level system off the CA coast so a jet streak is going to form over NV which will promote heavy rains and flooding well away from the tropical system itself.
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 00:37 |
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sleep with the vicious posted:What would the government do about it?? Like bro how would tax credits help in this situation I know this is supposed to be a joke, but I would be happy if they had a place for the people who are literally forced to live on the side of freeways and in storm drains to go without getting arrested by police. I would really like for them to use LAHSA to get out to every camp, warn people whats coming and help get those who want to get some place safe. There are hundreds of things Karen Bass and Janice Hahn could do to save some lives in the next two days. Instead they are going to hold a press conference because all they know how to do is manage perception.
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 00:44 |
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Evil_Greven posted:i feel like the obvious response is 'people can see a loving fire at night you imbeciles the point is to wake them up' the firestorm wasn't at night despite everyone thinking it was for some reason
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 01:22 |
Stereotype posted:the firestorm wasn't at night despite everyone thinking it was for some reason wasn’t it really dark in lots of the photos because of the smoke?
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 01:24 |
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tuyop posted:wasn’t it really dark in lots of the photos because of the smoke? yeah, but it was like 4pm
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 01:24 |
Stereotype posted:yeah, but it was like 4pm I just think that’s probably the reason in a lot of cases.
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 01:31 |
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I feel like the national media focus on "the sirens didn't go off" is to instill the idea that the people who died simply didn't know about the fire, like they were asleep in their beds and the siren would have awoken them and they could have fled. but that's not what happened. it was still solidly daytime and just super windy but within a half hour of basically normal the entire town was on fire. like people would notice the smoke and went outside and their roof and car was on fire. the roads were gridlocked and people were collapsing in the streets because the smoke was so thick they couldn't breathe. the only road out is mauka of the town, and was on fire i was texting my friend on maui at 1am her time (7am my time, i was on the mainland) and she was freaking out, and the only news story on any national network was like 15 stories down under "environment" just mentioning that there were fires on maui, and mostly they were talking about the upcountry haleakala stuff. this was like 8 hours after the city of lahaina was obliterated. people are looking back now with hindsight and not realizing how quickly this happened. or they do realize, and don't want to believe it, because it's terrifying.
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 01:31 |
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So for hurricanes I know that storms suck up the heat energy from warm water (typically pegged at 80°F) to grow stronger. So my question is, will the warm land temps also help fuel the storm? Cause SoCal is still going to be in the 80's when the storm hits and I imagine the asphalt & concrete jungles will retain a bit of heat until the storm makes contact.
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 01:38 |
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the reality that we are insignificant compared to natural forces that exist entirely beyond our power is incompatible with american individualism
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The Demilich posted:So for hurricanes I know that storms suck up the heat energy from warm water (typically pegged at 80°F) to grow stronger.
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Ah, I was just curious cause I was reading up on brown ocean theory. I'll just quote the article I readWUSF Public Media posted:With no cold water to churn up, Ida feasted. What with the storm saturating the whole warm as hell area I was just putting things together and got curious.
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The Demilich posted:Ah, I was just curious cause I was reading up on brown ocean theory. I'll just quote the article I read LA (the state) is all delta whereas LA the city is all concrete so the former has a bigger brown ocean potential
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 01:58 |
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If that's the storm that went into Louisiana, it's more likely to happen because of all of the wetlands
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The Demilich posted:Ah, I was just curious cause I was reading up on brown ocean theory. I'll just quote the article I read It's a desert and the brown ocean is a pretty unique situation.
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The Demilich posted:Ah, I was just curious cause I was reading up on brown ocean theory. I'll just quote the article I read There isn't going to be anywhere near enough water in this for that kind of effect to meaningfully happen, thats much more about extremely extensive inland flooding from storm surge
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 01:59 |
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Stereotype posted:I feel like the national media focus on "the sirens didn't go off" is to instill the idea that the people who died simply didn't know about the fire, like they were asleep in their beds and the siren would have awoken them and they could have fled. but that's not what happened. it was still solidly daytime and just super windy but within a half hour of basically normal the entire town was on fire. like people would notice the smoke and went outside and their roof and car was on fire. the roads were gridlocked and people were collapsing in the streets because the smoke was so thick they couldn't breathe. the only road out is mauka of the town, and was on fire Unless a plane is slamming into a building live on national TV, this is every disaster. Reference my post earlier about the headlines after Katrina that New Orleans was "spared", not to mention ignoring all the destruction in MS.
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 02:00 |
Stereotype posted:yeah, but it was like 4pm 4pm HST is 10PM EST so that explains some of it. idiots went to sleep and woke up to the news and figured it happened at night.
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The Demilich posted:Ah, I was just curious cause I was reading up on brown ocean theory. I'll just quote the article I read LA is bone dry so it will lose power considerably over land there. Versus Florida or Louisiana which have enormous, hot swamps to provide additional moisture.
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Stereotype posted:it was still solidly daytime and just super windy but within a half hour of basically normal the entire town was on fire. like people would notice the smoke and went outside and their roof and car was on fire. the roads were gridlocked and people were collapsing in the streets because the smoke was so thick they couldn't breathe. the only road out is mauka of the town, and was on fire this tracks with a twitter vid posted earlier on in the thread where (trigger warning) a video filmed inside a car escape the town showed the body of a fully clothed person who had clearly just collapsed in the middle of the road while trying to flee
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sitchensis posted:this tracks with a twitter vid posted earlier on in the thread where (trigger warning) a video filmed inside a car escape the town showed the body of a fully clothed person who had clearly just collapsed in the middle of the road while trying to flee yeah like it's pretty clearly daytime in this video where they survived by jumping in the pool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUiN7a1P0n4
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 02:53 |
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hard pack dry land just has all the water accumulate and push down the runoff from the parts of the forest that burned are horrifying ash clogs water systems, massive amounts of black earth bleed everywhere, toxic levels of metals… saw it all in New Mexico last year from the Calf Canyon and Black fires https://www.env.nm.gov/surface-water-quality/wildfire-impacts-on-surface-water-quality/
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 02:53 |
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Unless posted:hard pack dry land just has all the water accumulate and push down It's rain. It's supposed to wash everything away and turn the land into a toxic hellscape.
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 02:59 |
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Hey are mountains good or bad for a tropical circulation?
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SirPablo posted:Hey are mountains good or bad for a tropical circulation? I don’t know man aren’t you the weather guy
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SirPablo posted:Hey are mountains good or bad for a tropical circulation? they're bad unless you find yourself in those mountains
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zillions of tons of rotating water vapor just gonna cock one side up 45 degrees on a mountain and pull a sick rim turn into urban california.
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 03:49 |
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Bow season starts tomorrow. Lots of hunters are heading up into them hills right this very minute.
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# ? Aug 19, 2023 03:55 |
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The situation in Kelowna BC has completely deteriorated with new fires starting. State of emergency has been called. https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1692710298371682738 https://twitter.com/Truthpole/status/1692691131719684526 https://twitter.com/Truthpole/status/1692681940913234184 https://twitter.com/DavidWolfe/status/1692711124494340154 https://twitter.com/Truthpole/status/1692687834334085237 https://twitter.com/Truthpole/status/1692717267690422473
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SirPablo posted:Hey are mountains good or bad for a tropical circulation? Cuban mountains are godlike, but the weak and effeminate left coast mountains probably won’t do much to halt a hurricane.
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