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euphronius posted:Should cross burning be protected as free speech pol. Hahah syracuse holds off kansas for first title I'm still mad about that
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Paladinus posted:But not all is lost! They are working on an AI that will detect AI-generated SEO! We're just one step away from the solution to all our problems. Google has said they don't give a poo poo if a person or an AI writes content and that the algorithm won't penalize AI content. It's fundamentally not different from the current SEO bullshit that's been clogging up the internet for 10 years now. Instead of underpaid overseas English speakers writing content they know nothing about, it's now AI writing content it knows nothing about. AI can just do it a lot faster and cheaper.
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Paladinus posted:But not all is lost! They are working on an AI that will detect AI-generated SEO! We're just one step away from the solution to all our problems. whats stopping someone from using it as a low pass filter? ie. create ai slop until this thing doesnt think its ai generated
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Aug 18, 2023 19:55
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It's basically that no one is writing in good faith if there's any money to be made, and through ads, there's money everywhere. So except forums (Reddit basically nowadays), there's no one writing stuff just to share information, it has to either sell a product or get traffic. I know my company spent a lot of effort on SEO and close to zero on actually telling what we do or showcasing our products. Which is not working, but providing content sure as hell isn't gonna sell our superior products either. Blockade posted:whats stopping someone from using it as a low pass filter? ie. create ai slop until this thing doesnt think its ai generated That's a flaw I'm sure no one has considered this, especially the guys developing the AI that is proprietary and can be licensed to both search providers and content generators.
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Blockade posted:whats stopping someone from using it as a low pass filter? ie. create ai slop until this thing doesnt think its ai generated Simple, they will just create an even more sophisticated AI that can detect even that. And that will be the only thing it could do.
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Lol at this email I got from the power company just now (bolding mine):quote:Dear Valued Customer, A Quick Google Search posted:Net Income of TAMPA ELECTRIC CO during the year 2022 = $540 Million. Thanks!
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there used to be tons of blogs with info but they all got vaccumed up by Twitter and Facebook etc
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blogs were perfectly fine and probably where we should have stopped
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euphronius posted:there used to be tons of blogs with info but they all got vaccumed up by Twitter and Facebook etc
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mawarannahr posted:is this one factor in why search results are so bad? not the main one. but it was probably easier to index and classify blog text. probably. another factor is that gen z is super cautious about their online profiles (guessing) and mostly end up using stuff like discord that's completely hidden to the public. which bodes just great for the future of information sharing and being able to find anything that isn't from the past few years.
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did Google get rid of boolean terms? if i search for "this thing" AND (or +) "that thing" i get pages where ctrl+f "that thing" returns 0 results.
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:did Google get rid of boolean terms? if i search for "this thing" AND (or +) "that thing" i get pages where ctrl+f "that thing" returns 0 results. No, it works.
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I mean even quoting poo poo sometimes gets "helpfully" interpreted into other poo poo these days
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Also they got rid of plus in particular a long time ago (because obviously the better use for that would be to indicate usernames for Google+, the social network everyone will use forever)
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And the quantity of results you get seems like it's never been smaller
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mawarannahr posted:there's this fun toy browser on iOS called iRetro that gets you a sort of an experience like that, just no search. "this is what they took from you"
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:There’s a shitload of data on the economy around, but keep basing your politics on the vibe that tells you America is akin to Japan in 1946 with 90% unemployment and people picking corn out of horse poo poo to eat. You this reminds me that trickle down economics used to be called “horse and sparrow” economics "If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows."
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Aug 18, 2023 23:00
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i hear someone was asking about google search result quality:
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My high-school-attending kid already knows that you can’t just trust Google results and had part of one of their classes about verifying sources, so we’ll see how that goes.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:You this reminds me that trickle down economics used to be called “horse and sparrow” economics "If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows." This feels much more accurate, in that it's everyone except the rich being told to eat poo poo.
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Subjunctive posted:My high-school-attending kid already knows that you can’t just trust Google results and had part of one of their classes about verifying sources, so we’ll see how that goes. I remember being taught about verifying sources in elementary school, albeit with an added flavor/theme of "we're about to invade Afghanistan and the news is going to say a lot of things that probably aren't true so here's some basic critical thinking and analysis skills" lol
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Seriously though huge props to Ms. Steele for having the forethought to be like "our country is currently going nuts and I need to teach these kids not to just blindly accept the insane poo poo being broadcast 24/7 on TV"
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Children, skyscrapers don't just burn down...
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:Children, skyscrapers don't just burn down... Oh I mean we watched 9/11 happen live cuz we were deemed "old enough" and "it's important, historically". Tuned in just in time to watch the second plane hit even! The stuff she was specifically trying to front-run was poo poo like Bin Laden's Mountain Fortress etc. One thing I specifically remember us talking about (cuz a kid brought it up) was a news outlet claiming the Taliban were going to grease up all the major bridges and roads with all those nerve agents they had and all our brave soldiers would just immediately die, lol
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Learned the hard way worker's comp is about getting me back to work ASAP, even if that means I work one-handed (I was seriously sent back to work to only use my right hand, still waiting for surgery on my left arm). I saw this at work, where you can practically see "accidents" scratched out for this tepid poo poo.  I haven't bothered doing the math on whether I fell this many days ago.
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That Old Ganon posted:Learned the hard way worker's comp is about getting me back to work ASAP, even if that means I work one-handed (I was seriously sent back to work to only use my right hand, still waiting for surgery on my left arm). Look, if you don't report it to OSHA, clearly it's not OSHA-recordable.
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Google is good at giving you popular results for popular queries. If you are trying to find something that is similar to but still different from a popular thing, it will do its absolute damnedest to direct you to that instead of what you're actually looking for. I've also noticed that when I use google on my phone instead of my desktop, it pushes me much more towards businesses and products. Paladinus posted:Oh, that's not new, I think. It's been like that for years now. Those are not AI-generated, just plain generated. There is no difference here.
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Sounds bad https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1691818726428172695?t=wmFyZB9WlP-uqAlYt13qSw&s=19
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Panfilo posted:Sounds bad NYC would secede
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I was given advice to do something very much like that when I was recovering from a major depressive episode and had been isolating myself a lot. Checklists and self-gamifying work, and being social is good but not always easy for everyone. I’m with social-tracking-person.
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i get where you're coming from and I blame capitalism
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BonHair posted:It's basically that no one is writing in good faith if there's any money to be made, and through ads, there's money everywhere.
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RandolphCarter posted:tried googling something about baldurs gate three and the first ten results were the same ai article on different sites googling anything about a recently released popular game is just asking to be jizzed on by 90,000 AI garbage bots
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I was just recently checking if I missed anything in Act 1 of BG3, and didn't see a single AI-generated result. I've also asked some computer toucher friends who use google a lot for work about the apparent onslaught of AI-generated results, and nobody knew what I was talking about. Maybe google are doing some A-B testing or something. Every time I google something I know scroll down to see the entire first page to makes sure I'm not going mad. Googling (and even duckduckgoing) 'google too many ai generated search results', what I get is news articles from last year about how google apparently downranks some but not all AI-generated search results. When I search on reddit, people mostly complain about that new AI-driven widget or other unrelated quirks of the engine. Like some dude googled 'get rid of state supremacy law' and was surprised he didn't get any relevant results? But there were some good examples, like someone googling 'movie about an Asian woman trying to become an actress' and that does mostly return stuff about Michelle Yeoh and Everything Everywhere All at Once, so I guess maybe they do prioritise recency over how much it matches the query nowadays. On the other hand, the redditor actually complained that their results didn't include either the word 'Asian' or 'actress', so I don't know what's up with that. The movie is Double Happiness, by the way, which I easily found out by slightly changing the query. Paladinus has issued a correction as of 17:09 on Aug 19, 2023 |
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Even people with extraordinary fame and wealth and success with every possible resource die young from cancer or drugs or have other random terrible misfortunes. welcoem 2 the proletariat, mr Hamish Harding
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Paladinus posted:I was just recently checking if I missed anything in Act 1 of BG3, and didn't see a single AI-generated result. a lot of them are AI generated. Just about everything on these lovely list/summary/"news" pseudo-blog websites that are carbon copies of each other is passed through an LLM at some point. They just crawl each other, or other websites, or reddit, and have an LLM puke out an article about it. Zleague.gg gained some recent notoriety for this after being trolled into writing an article about "the return of glorbo" in WoW, among other things.
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lmao if you play new video games, and lol if you play video games at all. video games are capitalism.exe
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mawarannahr posted:lmao if you play new video games, and lol if you play video games at all. video games are capitalism.exe I'm playing fallout 4 right now and I press control to kneel whenever I see a Diamond City First Responder
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