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Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Since when is Conquistadors a culture?

E: oh god what a terrible snipe here's a map

Count Roland has a new favorite as of 17:29 on Aug 16, 2023

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Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

The Venn Diagram of people who would describe themselves as 'Alt History fans' and people who have zero nuanced understanding of history is just a circle, and that circle inevitably has some kind of stupid racist world map drawn on it.

Red Bones has a new favorite as of 20:41 on Aug 16, 2023

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

Count Roland posted:

Since when is Conquistadors a culture?

E: oh god what a terrible snipe here's a map



u made me check if this was the map thread or the graph thread

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

Red Bones posted:

The Venn Diagram of people who would describe themselves as 'Alt History fans' and people who have zero nuanced understanding of history is just a circle, and that circle inevitably has some kind of stupid racist world map drawn on it.

Stop being so cynical.

Anyway, I had a cool idea: what if Henry VIII invented steam engines

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
I'm both the German Britain and British NA & Australia

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad

Nenonen posted:

I'm both the German Britain and British NA & Australia

I'm Hindu Cambodia

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

EasilyConfused posted:

I'm Hindu Cambodia

I'm the uncultured potato wasteland of Ireland

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

Tree Bucket posted:

Stop being so cynical.

Anyway, I had a cool idea: what if Henry VIII invented steam engines

Monastery demolition efficiency increased dramatically

Whirring conveyor belts speed ex-wives to a system of rotating axes

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Henry VIII was actually an expert in pneumatics.

He knew all about heir pressure.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Conquistador is a culture like Turkish

Whooping Crabs
Apr 13, 2010

Sorry for the derail but I fuckin love me some racoons

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
chad mercator

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Map seller, I need only your strongest projections

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Mercator's maps are too powerful for you, cartographer

E: fb

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

ikanreed posted:

Map seller, I need only your strongest projections


steinrokkan posted:

Mercator's maps are too powerful for you, cartographer

E: fb

I heard both of these in Matt Berrys voice

The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

Welcome Back, Galaxy Geek.
From Tom Gauld

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

drk
Jan 16, 2005


an especially cursed dual Y axis

edit: actually with the rare dual X axis as well, well done

drk has a new favorite as of 18:24 on Aug 24, 2023

Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."


Is there a significant correlation with how often kids are named Kilometers in the rest of the world?

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Red Bones posted:

Is there a significant correlation with how often kids are named Kilometers in the rest of the world?
Would need to be a delay since Kilometers Prower fan fiction only came later.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

drk posted:



an especially cursed dual Y axis

edit: actually with the rare dual X axis as well, well done

Where is the 2nd x axis?

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Count Roland posted:

Where is the 2nd x axis?

Just out of frame, laughing too

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Count Roland posted:

Where is the 2nd x axis?

look at the legend, it's comparing two different timeframes

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
But only writing one in... for some reason (unless it just got cut off?).

I guess they just want you to count the other one in your head. It does actually seem to add up, but um yeah. There must of been a better way to do that.

Golden Dragon
Apr 9, 2007

Always speak politely to an enraged Dragon
https://twitter.com/AlecStapp/status/1694829340645629971?s=20

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
so ok there's the scale for Renminbi on the right but is it not still true that the dollar has slipped from 70+% in 2000 to less than 60% now? It seems like there's not actually much lying going on here just people think they're being tricked by the separate scale on the right? Or i'm missing something not obvious to me.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Regarde Aduck posted:

so ok there's the scale for Renminbi on the right but is it not still true that the dollar has slipped from 70+% in 2000 to less than 60% now? It seems like there's not actually much lying going on here just people think they're being tricked by the separate scale on the right? Or i'm missing something not obvious to me.

They're on a completely different scale, the one on the left has steps of 5 while the one on right steps of 1.

Super Librarian
Jan 4, 2005

who said anything about lying, it's just a bad graph in the awful graphs and charts thread

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
seemed fine to me

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Regarde Aduck posted:

so ok there's the scale for Renminbi on the right but is it not still true that the dollar has slipped from 70+% in 2000 to less than 60% now? It seems like there's not actually much lying going on here just people think they're being tricked by the separate scale on the right? Or i'm missing something not obvious to me.

the numbers are technically correct, but it's lying because the graph is constructed to make the comparison between the two values look different than it actually is. the obvious editorial bent here is "oh no, china is catching up to the usa!!!!" and it's meant to make you think china's almost there right now!! look at how close the lines are to crossing!

but the scale for RMB is 1/5 what it is for USD, and the graphs don't start at the same location either. here is a more accurate comparison:

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
I don't think you're going to fix it short of a stacked line graph with all substantial currencies in reserve otherwise you're left with focus in the insipid point that $ down renminbi up.

Even with the doctoring the biggest conclusion you can make is $ down renminbi up leading me to think this is a graph that could have been a table if you care to make this point at all because trying to type set the accurate graph is a task of "graphical design is my passion" magnitudes but the doctored graph will be snickered at by nerds.

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

The Rmb gain is only 1/4 the USD drop so something or things makes up the rest and isn’t mentioned on the graph

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


What in the sam hill is going on with the X axis

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Xenoborg posted:

The Rmb gain is only 1/4 the USD drop so something or things makes up the rest and isn’t mentioned on the graph

yeah it's EUR or something. but that wouldn't support "oh no chinaaaaaaaaa :saddumb:"

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

CommonShore posted:

What in the sam hill is going on with the X axis
Each whole label is in the form of "Q1 20XX." From there you can tell each hash is a period of 2 years.

The underlying data set quanta seem to be at quarterly measurements so there are unseen quarterly hashes necessitating the whole label. Chart crime x axis status: accurate and non ideal.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


zedprime posted:

Each whole label is in the form of "Q1 20XX." From there you can tell each hash is a period of 2 years.

The underlying data set quanta seem to be at quarterly measurements so there are unseen quarterly hashes necessitating the whole label. Chart crime x axis status: accurate and non ideal.

The way that the hashes line up with Q1 and the years had me wondering if it had some kind of double x axis or some variable scale.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Regarde Aduck posted:

so ok there's the scale for Renminbi on the right but is it not still true that the dollar has slipped from 70+% in 2000 to less than 60% now? It seems like there's not actually much lying going on here just people think they're being tricked by the separate scale on the right? Or i'm missing something not obvious to me.

I'm pretty sure there are currencies that are not USD or CNY.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Paladinus posted:

I'm pretty sure there are currencies that are not USD or CNY.

I’ve also seen CSN and CSNY

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Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

It calls out the different y axis right there in the legend so I don't think it's that misleading. I'm more bothered by the x axis.

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