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What's the cheapest emulator console/handheld out there right now? Just how low can you go? I've got a steam deck so I'm not super interested in anything else but I've been skimming the thread and wondering what the absolute bottom is, power and quality be damned. The best I've seen so far is the Powkiddy v90 for 40 bucks, capping at PS1 emulation looks like. Is there anything for 20 or 30 somehow?
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RBA Starblade posted:What's the cheapest emulator console/handheld out there right now? Just how low can you go? I've got a steam deck so I'm not super interested in anything else but I've been skimming the thread and wondering what the absolute bottom is, power and quality be damned. The best I've seen so far is the Powkiddy v90 for 40 bucks, capping at PS1 emulation looks like. Is there anything for 20 or 30 somehow? Probably the DataFrog SF2000. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VxK63sT2hk
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Aug 19, 2023 06:03
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There are little famiclones on AliExpress for, like, five bucks. This is the first one I found: https://a.aliexpress.com/_ms3xyN4
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Aug 19, 2023 14:44
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Russ’s 2S review is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKbgiyEr9JY Basically what I was expecting. Performance close to the 3+, widescreen content is hard to see, sticks and triggers are nice, amazing 4:3 console for the price. Kinda bummed to see the new start and select buttons are flush and apparently too clicky. Still gotta be miles away from having them on top of the thing. Keeping my indigo preorder, excited to use it for all my older stuff that I don’t need the 3+ screen for.
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Aug 19, 2023 17:49
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Those were what I was thinking and 15 for a turd or 4 bucks for a clone seems pretty unbeatable lol Amazing it's so cheap now
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Aug 19, 2023 20:07
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Rolo posted:Basically what I was expecting. Performance close to the 3+, widescreen content is hard to see, sticks and triggers are nice, amazing 4:3 console for the price. Looking at the size comparisons in the video, it looks most directly comparable to the RG405M, same resolution, same aspect ratio, but the 405M fits a 4" screen in there, but the 405M is also much heavier and more expensive due to being metal.  Zerot posted:There are little famiclones on AliExpress for, like, five bucks. This is the first one I found: RBA Starblade posted:Those were what I was thinking and 15 for a turd or 4 bucks for a clone seems pretty unbeatable lol Assepoester fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Aug 19, 2023 |
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Aug 19, 2023 22:43
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I actually like Anbernic but the 405 is missing too much for its price point. The 4” screen is neat and the 618 is a good chip but that’s it. The shoulders, d-pad, weight, lack of interesting colors or plastic shells all pushing me to the RP2S.
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Aug 20, 2023 00:17
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They have those $10 junk in Walmart too. Soon they will find their way on to Target/TJMaxx/Marshall checkout racks. I am all for it. $10 get you a taste of retro gaming and then people will get a good one on Aliexpress/Temu. I still don't get how the Japanese gaming brands are not getting into this market. All Sega needs to do is make an Android device with Sega aesthetic and comes with one emulator. And the gamers can install other emulators. If Sega doesn't want to do it Konami should do it, they are practically out of the gaming market. Hell Kojima should make a console. I would buy a Kojima android console.
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Aug 20, 2023 00:20
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stephenthinkpad posted:I still don't get how the Japanese gaming brands are not getting into this market. It’s a really fast way to become persona non grata. Like yes we would like to piss off one or more of the biggest companies in our industry. There’s a reason the companies making explicit emulation handhelds have no other presence in the games industry.
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Aug 20, 2023 00:59
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Yeah it's telling these are all coming either from Chinese companies(since China barely give a poo poo about IP laws) or if from American companies they're being marketed primarily as being portable PC's and/or are hobbyist projects(like the various Raspberry Pi powered handhelds) Also regarding the cheaper handhelds, I feel like pretty much anything below either the Miyoo Mini or Anbernic RG35XX at this point is sacrificing too much in the name of price(though I could see the Data Frog being an exception if it gets some custom firmware to push its limits a bit harder)
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Aug 20, 2023 01:31
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stephenthinkpad posted:They have those $10 junk in Walmart too. Soon they will find their way on to Target/TJMaxx/Marshall checkout racks.    This led to the first wave of retro consoles, styled after ancient atari and colecovision and such systems, and often they were actually famiclones as well, just running brand new NES reproductions of the original games. Even to this day a lot of the mini arcade systems for really old games like Pac Man and Galaga and such are actually just famiclones running the NES versions, not emulators running the actual arcade roms. And yes, the same goes for the MyArcade and Retro Bit handhelds that fill up the Walmart bins for $10-20, all famiclones to this day.     Eventually of course this all led to the modern mini retro console era, which leads into our next point... stephenthinkpad posted:I still don't get how the Japanese gaming brands are not getting into this market. All Sega needs to do is make an Android device with Sega aesthetic and comes with one emulator. And the gamers can install other emulators. If Sega doesn't want to do it Konami should do it, they are practically out of the gaming market. Hell Kojima should make a console. I would buy a Kojima android console.  Atari, Commodore, Nintendo, Sega, NEC, etc. have all made mini retro consoles. It is weird that Nintendo hasn't released a Gameboy Mini yet, sure, but when you're selling as many switches as you can make for 7 years I guess you need all the chip and LCD capacity you can get your hands on. In addition, even companies that never made hardware have licensed plenty of their games to Blaze's Evercade and Super Pocket  
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Aug 20, 2023 01:42
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^^^ What I mean is release a Sega retro control in android with play store so people can easily install other system emulators over wifi.
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Aug 20, 2023 02:45
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stephenthinkpad posted:^^^ Why would they do that when selling you a custom thing is a) more profitable b) something they've seen success with and c) less likely to make other companies annoyed at you
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Aug 20, 2023 02:53
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Sega doing that would mean absolutely torching their relationship with for sure Nintendo and probably also Sony for absolutely zero gain.
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Aug 20, 2023 02:54
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stephenthinkpad posted:^^^
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Aug 20, 2023 03:54
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What's the vita capable of, emulation wise? I've not tried mine for replacing for years. The hat time I checked the vita version was pretty janky
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Aug 20, 2023 08:23
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The Vita emulates PSP and PS1 flawlessly, and most consoles earlier than that very well, modulo a little weirdness on some more obscure or complex games. (Golden Sun, I'm looking at you!) Doesn't do N64 well, and I've never tried (and wouldn't bother trying) Dreamcast.
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Aug 20, 2023 08:35
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I've seen people talking pretty happily about the newer versions of flycast in the last year or so, although I haven't tried it myself. But yeah, snes/gba level should be pretty much fine, although for snes you'll probably have to spend a bit of time trying/looking up which core you should be using. Probably the answer is different if you're after  accuracy, whatever that might mean to you.
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Aug 20, 2023 08:40
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kirbysuperstar posted:Russ's Ally review (I think?) had a shot of a bunch lined up on a shelf hell yeah
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Aug 20, 2023 16:47
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Some of Russ’ older roundup videos when he was recording in his shed had shots of shelves of handhelds that were powerfully erotic.
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Aug 20, 2023 16:57
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Thats like 3k worth of retro consoles on the cheapest $30 shelving. He needs to thermal label on the sides of the consoles for fast retrieval.
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Aug 20, 2023 17:12
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What's the cheapest handheld that can do PS2/GC/Saturn era emulation to a decent level?
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Aug 20, 2023 17:30
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Guess it’s gonna be an Odin, or maybe Deck. RP2S comes so close, but I’m decrepit and need a bigger screen, and don’t want to need auto frame skip on every Saturn game (even if it shouldn’t be a big deal, stupid brain making me like this)
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Aug 20, 2023 18:14
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If it wasn’t for stupid brain we’d all just be playing games on whatever he had instead of posting here.
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Aug 20, 2023 18:27
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Get an used Odin. Some people will dump their Odin for the Odin 2.
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Aug 20, 2023 18:35
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Payndz posted:What's the cheapest handheld that can do PS2/GC/Saturn era emulation to a decent level? refurb deck
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Aug 20, 2023 19:29
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Yep, used Odin or Odin 2 or a Deck are really your only options. The T618 devices can only really handle the lightest stuff.
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Aug 20, 2023 20:11
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I still just want a Logitech g cloud. I missed out on one for $150 on Mercari. It was gone before I could grab it. There are like 3 for $200 each but all from 0 score sellers and all in Texas so it seems suspicious to me.
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Aug 20, 2023 20:13
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baram. posted:refurb deck Yeah I gotta say this. The 64 gig version is just a steal. The Odin is a lot more portable I’ll give it that but for me the deck is way more comfortable. I do like my Odin and I’ve been using it a lot this week but the deck is just better imo
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Aug 20, 2023 20:15
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Ayaneo just announced the Pocket Air is using the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 as well, so this is apparently the next chip literally everyone’s got. Maybe that’ll be another option.
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njsykora posted:Ayaneo just announced the Pocket Air is using the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 as well, so this is apparently the next chip literally everyone’s got. Maybe that’ll be another option. Did they give a price though?
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Aug 20, 2023 20:27
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No, they’re apparently doing a full announcement stream at the end of the month.
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Aug 20, 2023 20:30
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Retroid rep on discord says 2S preorder shipping is resuming tomorrow, starting with the indigo and black orders, then retro stuff and the clears starting Wednesday. Same guy that said all preorders would be out by now so heeeeyWHOKNOWS.
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Aug 20, 2023 20:45
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njsykora posted:Some of Russ’ older roundup videos when he was recording in his shed had shots of shelves of handhelds that were powerfully erotic. Video Games > Third Party Retro Consoles: shots of shelves of handhelds that are powerfully erotic
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Aug 20, 2023 21:31
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njsykora posted:No, they’re apparently doing a full announcement stream at the end of the month. If it’s in the $300 range I can give it a hard look. I kinda doubt it will be though.
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Saoshyant posted:Video Games > Third Party Retro Consoles: Hard Looks at shelves of handhelds that are powerfully erotic
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Apparently the bill of materials on the Pocket Air as it stands is over 2000 yuan with the MTK1200, which is around $275. I wouldn't be surprised with the presumably more expensive Snapdragon we'll see a price of $500, or maybe even $600 with some upsell options on specs (maybe one with lots of RAM, or one with a modem). Remember that the wifi Razer Edge is $400 for what is basically an 888. The Air 1S, which is a 7840U in the same chassis, starts at $800 with the early bird special. I think with the Mediatek that pricing would be a non-starter but if they can get the 8 gen 2 out quickly while it's still reasonably current then they've got a good chip and the cooling to run it, so it'd be a possible high-end android console option, especially if they have a nice tv-out mode on it. I can also see an LCD model like they've done with the x86 Airs for significantly less later.
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Aug 20, 2023 23:13
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The Odin 2 price post-IGG preorder is already confirmed at $400 if I remember right. So $500 with Ayaneo’s higher average priced devices sounds about right.
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Aug 21, 2023 01:06
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My indigo 2S has shipped  If my last experience with DHL is any indication it should be here this week.
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This guy has a very different form factor to the rest of the devices I've seen posted here, but I think it fits. Playing some old text adventures on this guy would be pretty sweet. They also have a variant which is more handheld console in nature.
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