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Kaysette posted:i'm just not that bothered by it i kinda feel like if half a dozen people are saying "hey this behaviour makes this thread bad" its ultimately easier and better for the thread if you make some effort to address it instead of like, telling them to use the ignore feature
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El Scandelouse posted:This early access game sucks rear end and I hate it. *Goes back to playing it for another 70 hours* That's hosed up, I can see why you Want Something Done
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Verviticus posted:i kinda feel like if half a dozen people are saying "hey this behaviour makes this thread bad" its ultimately easier and better for the thread if you make some effort to address it instead of like, telling them to use the ignore feature Dude has some dirt on the mods or something. I guess he hacked their butthole pics.
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El Scandelouse posted:So you aren’t bothered by someone making GBS threads up a thread you are tasked with moderating by saying the game is early access or just spewing other bullshit without contributing? How is posting a picture of a confused looking guy “way worse poo poo”? The game is early access bullshit tho
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Aug 21, 2023 02:08
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Verviticus posted:theres gotta be ways you can be in this thread and saying the things you wanna say without being really loving annoying about it i guess this is how i’m looking at it. shitposting, white noise, its whatever. but if most of what you’re bringing to the table is just grating stuff that makes people not want to read the thread, maybe it’s time to find a funnier way to talk about it or a better thread to fit your vibe
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Aug 21, 2023 02:14
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flashman posted:The game is early access bullshit tho Okay.
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:At level 89 and the journey from 83 to here has had 1 upgrade, and that was an offensive to defensive adjustment from a mad wolfs glee that rolled good damage but bad dr and movespeed to a mad wolfs glee that rolled bad offense but good dr and movespeed. Still waiting on a 3x defensive chest I can roll a 4th affix onto. This is more or less what's killing it for me. The chain CC deaths are goddamn annoying, the lack of content is evident, and I hate picking up everything... but the lack of gear upgrades is making this a hell it doesn't need to be. Forget the MH/OH setup I want, just finding a 2h to replace my 813 one is impossible and it's not even that good. It's just the best thing I had sitting in my bank when I lost my super dope 825 I found early on to hosed up vendor controls. I have a 3/4 ring I've spent over 100m so far trying to roll vuln on to and that's the closest thing I've seen to an upgrade.
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Aug 21, 2023 02:27
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I wonder if I would catch a probe if I went into the BG3 thread and was like “I don’t play the game but this is early access trash” and if you say anything contrary I’ll just say oh yeah the game makes me mad too.
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Aug 21, 2023 03:27
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El Scandelouse posted:I wonder if I would catch a probe if I went into the BG3 thread and was like “I don’t play the game but this is early access trash” and if you say anything contrary I’ll just say oh yeah the game makes me mad too. Please take this meta-discussion over to the feedback thread.
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Aug 21, 2023 03:44
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I think it should be fine to be disappointed in d4, personally.
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flashman posted:The game is early access bullshit tho i dunno if blizzard does early access. is this game even on steam?
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Aug 21, 2023 03:59
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bungie is a far better developer than blizz atp and its sad. Considering that bar is in the soil approaching hell monetization, chase exotics, mp experience bliz has learned only the wrong lessons and is repeating its mistakes over and over. probably the last launch blizzard game I buy tbqh
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Aug 21, 2023 04:02
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ex post facho posted:bungie is a far better developer than blizz atp and its sad. Considering that bar is in the soil approaching hell d2s pvp netcode is awful but everything else is pretty fun. idk it is weird this thread is so inundated with people being aggressive about how much they hate the game. i get that its not perfect but also its a 40 hour playthrough with a fun story and mechanics which is better than like, 80% of AAA releases at this point.
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Not really. considering this is a AAA dev with hundreds of millions of $ behind it the fact that they can't even approach feature parity with their own decade old+ games is inexcusable
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I don't even play POEII but he fact that one loving video is enough to show me how bad d4 is in comparison makes me want to stop playing blizz poo poo is really funny especially considering its f2p
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when bg3 releases on ps5 I'll probly put down d4 forever tbqh
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ex post facho posted:Not really. considering this is a AAA dev with hundreds of millions of $ behind it the fact that they can't even approach feature parity with their own decade old+ games is inexcusable This is a problem with modern gaming and it sucks. I went into d4 with very low expectations and ended up having a great time for sixty hours before hitting the end game loop and seeing that it wasn't fun. There are people in this thread that love that loop so I'll just assume they've designed it with that group of people in mind. I've said it since very early on that the end game to be felt bare bones and season one feels like a very poorly executed season when compared to the competition. However PoE has had plenty of missteps and I'm still happy to boot that ever season. Think the general consensus is that there's a lot of potential and eventually we'll get the full experience they probably should have had at launch.
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faantastic posted:This is a problem with modern gaming and it sucks. I went into d4 with very low expectations and ended up having a great time for sixty hours before hitting the end game loop and seeing that it wasn't fun. There are people in this thread that love that loop so I'll just assume they've designed it with that group of people in mind. correct. when it approaches feature parity with d2r /d3r:ros it might be worth playing again once the campaign is done. Until then there's far better games worth your time an there's nothing wrong with that
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Aug 21, 2023 04:31
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Always gonna lol at the high effort posts that are just "I ate my plate of Diablo spaghetti too fast and I want MORE" Just pipe down, roll another of the 5 characters, and if you finished em all, touch grass til Season 2
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it's not even that, it's the utter stagnation and frankly regression from a studio with all the money in the world to innovate
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Always gonna lol at the high effort posts that are just "I ate my plate of Diablo spaghetti too fast and I want MORE" It tasted too good and now I’m mad it’s all gone.
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(chubby cheeks lady howls at the moon, turns into a wolf and throws a tornado at the daughter of hatred) Discerning Gamers: sigh... If I had a nickel
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i'm having fun clicking and I think the campaign story is way more entertaining and compelling than I was expecting  granted, my expectations for a blizz story was pretty low
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All I want is a more authentic, artisanal, mom-and-pop ARPG experience, rather than this big faceless sanitized corporate product
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El Scandelouse posted:I wonder if I would catch a probe if I went into the BG3 thread and was like “I don’t play the game but this is early access trash” and if you say anything contrary I’ll just say oh yeah the game makes me mad too. If you played the amount of D4 I have, you would have beaten BG3 twice and probably had a way better time. Anyway if you wanna stop hateposting about me, let's go back to talking about the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAmwChz2aZ0 Loot filters coming in 2024
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for those like me who don’t really have context on how much that is relatively this site says the peak viewers was close to a million during what looks like a beta. idk what a day to day good stream amount for a AAA game is but i’m guessing it’s closer to the 1M than 1K
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harrygomm posted:for those like me who don’t really have context on how much that is relatively this site says the peak viewers was close to a million during what looks like a beta. idk what a day to day good stream amount for a AAA game is but i’m guessing it’s closer to the 1M than 1K that said yes the stream numbers rn arent very high, theyre averagine 6k viewers in the past month which is the range of like, for instance, maple story, a decades old mmo, and elden ring, which came out a lot longer ago. however its not a complete dumpster fire or anything. its still in the top 65 or so games on twitch in terms of average viewers.
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Verviticus posted:i dunno if blizzard does early access. is this game even on steam? They don't because we're suckers who buy it anyway and say it has good bones and then buy the expansions that fix it up and are very successful at making money. I wish I could find some boots with 4 evades and max plus teleport, I think I could maybe do nm 80 with the teleport around oculus build with a little more cdr. Losing the 25 percent Dr from having blizzard hurts but the barber is just so nice and the large lucky hit chance of teleport really gets enough meteors going (along with the orb enchant as well) to kill stuff np with the barber. The cd is like two seconds too long on teleport still to make it a real useful build.
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harrygomm posted:for those like me who don’t really have context on how much that is relatively this site says the peak viewers was close to a million during what looks like a beta. idk what a day to day good stream amount for a AAA game is but i’m guessing it’s closer to the 1M than 1K to add a bit of context because I dropped that in here with none: major games that are popular and are at all watchable tend to hang around 20-50k with significantly more during major events/tournaments/expansions/new launches/sponsored streaming events, etc. in D4's case the number is remarkable because it's both a really rapid descent from what was a fairly widely watched game (and in streaming terms, arpgs are considered quite streaming-friendly because there's a lot of time to focus on chat/community interaction plus the play sessions and goals people are playing towards tend to be relatively long term, which makes for good streaming content). also I've been looking at that number for a while and it only actually went down about 1k for the poe season, so while that contributes, it definitely isn't the reason why the number is so low, it was 3-4k for most of the week before the new poe season.
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Irrespective of gameplay Diablo IV is not really a watchable steaming experience, especially now that it's like a whole month into the first season. In D2R you can just zone out and watch 1,000+ Chaos Sanctuary run compilations for epic loot. In D3 there's GR pushing and leaderboards that keep the chase alive past the opening week of a season, usually with some pretty significant changes to sets and itemization. I hesitate to imagine what really exists in Diablo IV for people to watch others play. It's all pretty much identical content from 1-100 and legendaries don't have their own unique identities anymore outside of a few exceedingly unlikely drops, so nobody is going "oh poo poo a HoZ," they're going "oh boy a max rolled legendary aspect that I can watch someone painfully extracting for 5 minutes to put on a rare in town." Dungeons are slow to open and slow to complete. It's just not a very watchable game, even if you do enjoy it.
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exquisite tea posted:Irrespective of gameplay Diablo IV is not really a watchable steaming experience, especially now that it's like a whole month into the first season. In D2R you can just zone out and watch 1,000+ Chaos Sanctuary run compilations for epic loot. In D3 there's GR pushing and leaderboards that keep the chase alive past the opening week of a season, usually with some pretty significant changes to sets and itemization. I hesitate to imagine what really exists in Diablo IV for people to watch others play. It's all pretty much identical content from 1-100 and legendaries don't have their own unique identities anymore outside of a few exceedingly unlikely drops, so nobody is going "oh poo poo a HoZ," they're going "oh boy a max rolled legendary aspect that I can watch someone painfully extracting for 5 minutes to put on a rare in town." Dungeons are slow to open and slow to complete. It's just not a very watchable game, even if you do enjoy it. I dipped into it a bit to get the loot drops and from what I could tell everyone was just there to chat with the streamer because there wasn't really anything to follow with the gameplay.
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Posting about posting is usually a sign a game IS actually bad I’ve found unfortunately. If someone is spamming about posters, it’s because there isn’t anything exciting to really talk about.
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exquisite tea posted:Irrespective of gameplay Diablo IV is not really a watchable steaming experience, especially now that it's like a whole month into the first season. In D2R you can just zone out and watch 1,000+ Chaos Sanctuary run compilations for epic loot. In D3 there's GR pushing and leaderboards that keep the chase alive past the opening week of a season, usually with some pretty significant changes to sets and itemization. I hesitate to imagine what really exists in Diablo IV for people to watch others play. It's all pretty much identical content from 1-100 and legendaries don't have their own unique identities anymore outside of a few exceedingly unlikely drops, so nobody is going "oh poo poo a HoZ," they're going "oh boy a max rolled legendary aspect that I can watch someone painfully extracting for 5 minutes to put on a rare in town." Dungeons are slow to open and slow to complete. It's just not a very watchable game, even if you do enjoy it. Was about to say, these games don't get big game views on a good day just because they're niche. A random person tuning in for any non-story ARPG gameplay is not seeing interesting stuff happening on screen.
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Lord Packinham posted:Posting about posting is usually a sign a game IS actually bad I’ve found unfortunately. If someone is spamming about posters, it’s because there isn’t anything exciting to really talk about. The game isn’t bad though. They have areas to improve on but they released a complete experience. I thought the campaign was pretty fun. I’ve got two level 100 characters and have killed Uber Lilith/cleared a nm100 in s1. Even if they stopped updating the game today I got 300 some hours out of it which is more than a lot of games these days.
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Posting seriously about how "watchable" a game is is an absurd and hilarious thing my younger self never imagined.
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I guess this is the last thing I can think to say after the disaster of the last three pages, as well as realizing I don't want to play the game like its my job just to maybe kill Uber Lilith. I don't think the next 350 NMDs will be better than the 50ish I've done. See you in S2, I'll be a Druid or Necro. D4 is a good game if you wanted a standalone Diablo game that doesn't embarrass itself with the writing and gives you five classes to have meaty experimentation with. D4 is currently mediocre if you deep dive analyze it compared to most competitors and its own previous games, especially in regards to end game grinding and itemization, or the ideal fantasy of "I happily played Diablo 2 for 10-20 years, why am I bored of D4 already?" I can hold these two thoughts in my head simultaneously, D4 is fun to mock when the devs misstep, I hope I don't get meta-irony burned for this scaling hot take. Oh, and D4 is fair game to mock as early access until they manage the herculean task of functioning resistances, lmao. I know there's the matter of if EA is the proper term to use but even the D4 defenders(like myself) have been musing the entire time that D4 will really be something in a year when they're done adding in the features it needs to be polished(bigger/better season mechanics, loot 2.0, dramatically better unique pools and redoing existing uniques itemization, the devs themselves offering new endgame content from S2 on, resistances, etc.) Almost like it released. Early. A year early. And you can play it in that incomplete state. Hmm. Seriously fellas there's almost an entire act and region missing from the campaign, lol. OK, if it's not EA it's definitely rushed, which is just another way of saying it came out too early. Doomykins fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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El Scandelouse posted:The game isn’t bad though. They have areas to improve on but they released a complete experience. I thought the campaign was pretty fun. I’ve got two level 100 characters and have killed Uber Lilith/cleared a nm100 in s1. Even if they stopped updating the game today I got 300 some hours out of it which is more than a lot of games these days. Its almost as if what you subjectively enjoy others don't, and they have different opinions of the quality of the game based on these preferences.... Crazy.. I thought the campaign was a chore and wasn't really interested in the story, because it's a diablo game. I had fun between say levels 50-75 on a few dudes but overall its pretty bare bones and the items stink. flashman fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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I thought it was an 8/10 campaign, 6/10 WT3 where it was alright but the cracks started to show, and the meat of WT4 is a 3/10. Overall a mediocre or below average game for me. I probably would have been fine at a $40 price tag like Last Epoch (which is a much better game in every measure except for visuals/animations). The devs themselves have mentioned the end game they envisioned is not in game yet, the resists are busted, no loot filter, contradictory design with NM dungeons being the only worthwhile activity yet not meant to be the end game, super awkward aspect management system, an entire world tier in beta that was removed from the game, etc. If that's not EA, what is? bamhand fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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El Scandelouse posted:So you aren’t bothered by someone making GBS threads up a thread you are tasked with moderating by saying the game is early access or just spewing other bullshit without contributing? How is posting a picture of a confused looking guy “way worse poo poo”? You are making GBS threads up the thread way worse with this weird baby tantrum.
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