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Crab Dad posted:I’m gonna be the only one left in and not even in the real navy at this point. Buddy I got 4 more years But a decent chance of getting out December 2024 and going Maryland Air national guard to burn out the last 3 Ftn
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Wait so the guys who built the crappy LCS class are the ones also building the Constellation-class?
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PneumonicBook posted:Yes but the lcs engines are steaming piles of poo poo They literally grenade themselves at high speed and during the crash reversal process. They wouldn’t allied the EPF to perform that maneuver anymore.
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Aug 20, 2023 21:27
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Dorstein posted:Wait so the guys who built the crappy LCS class are the ones also building the Constellation-class? No, lockheed Martin built freedom, Fincantieri is building constellation, LM is just providing cms/vls/etc. Of course the yard workforce is the same and supship is still supship so. Crab Dad posted:They literally grenade themselves at high speed and during the crash reversal process. They wouldn’t allied the EPF to perform that maneuver anymore. Well aware, Ive been building them for close to a decade. I was stuck on 9 during trials, took like 14 hours to get back in from lake Michigan. My buddy was on 7 when she went diw off the coast if norfolk.
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Aug 20, 2023 21:38
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Elviscat posted:Good luck! Enjoy your tri-monthly letters saying "we're not done yet" that inexplicably have your entire SSN on them along with name, d.o.b. and obv. address. Hope you don't get your identity stolen! thanks, it's been five weeks and so far all they've done is not include a full page of items claimed on the VA site or send/contact me with anything. oh boy, standing by, a thing I learned to do in the service!
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Aug 20, 2023 22:17
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PneumonicBook posted:Three more are on their way to decomming on the Freedom side. Looks like they're just doing it in a hurry: https://twitter.com/mercoglianos/status/1693325969224765762
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Aug 20, 2023 22:33
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Stultus Maximus posted:Looks like they're just doing it in a hurry: Cyber is the new battlefield I guess we don't need boats
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Stultus Maximus posted:Looks like they're just doing it in a hurry: Lol. That would do wonders for morale.
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Elviscat posted:Lol. I dunno that sounds like a lot of fun.
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Aug 20, 2023 23:30
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Just don't do what we did on my first patrol, scuttle a ship before realizing we're in like 30 feet of water and try to tow it out but fail and have to submit a chart correction for our fuckup.
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Aug 20, 2023 23:34
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I'm in for at least a few more years. I've had at least 4 people tell me that I should stay in and really reconsider getting out. I don't think they fully understand the levels of BS the Navy has subjected me to, especially this past year.
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Aug 21, 2023 18:59
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4 more years of spending one month a year in Hawaii or mobilizing to Hawaii. Sigh. Good chance my unit won’t let me go back to fleetweek again. Took the PAO of the Navy to push for me last time and that’s no guarantee again.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:35
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Crab Dad posted:4 more years of spending one month a year in Hawaii or mobilizing to Hawaii. Sigh. You've been to more fleet weeks than 90% of sailors
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orange juche posted:You've been to more fleet weeks than 90% of sailors 3 times. Three glorious weeks of working my feet off and watching free Broadway shows.
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Aug 21, 2023 20:22
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The Mess is safe for another year.
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Crab Dad posted:4 more years of spending one month a year in Hawaii or mobilizing to Hawaii. Sigh. Lol no loving chance. 9 months before you are back in dress whites being a wingman.
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Aug 21, 2023 21:32
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So the Navy finally came out with the enlisted commissioning path for the Maritime Cyber Warfare Officer. This is a few months after the officer lat transfers started. The Navy absolutely hemorrhages qualified cyber people after their initial service commitment because they all gently caress off for $TEXAS or some other civilian non-bullshit Navy jobs. One of the biggest gripes from Navy cyber is how you have to stay enlisted to do the cool work. The other services have officers doing cool work. The MCWO fixes this! Then fucks literally everything up by requiring an 8 year service obligation post commissioning. For someone that is already basically qualified to do the jobs. Congrats you're only going to keep the worthless people now. Good work. You might convince an E5 to give you 4 years officer time but 8 is a "gently caress you" for 99% of them.
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The Valley Stared posted:I'm in for at least a few more years. I've had at least 4 people tell me that I should stay in and really reconsider getting out. It seems bizarre to me how unawares many people seem. I can't tell if the blinders are intentional or if their experience was just really that different.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:The Mess is safe for another year. Weapon disassembly wasn’t on the test uh?
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Laranzu posted:So the Navy finally came out with the enlisted commissioning path for the Maritime Cyber Warfare Officer. This is a few months after the officer lat transfers started. Most of the real work is done by contractors anyway. Microsoft, Peraton, and a couple of others are doing most of your heavy lifting.
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FrozenVent posted:Weapon disassembly wasn’t on the test uh? No it was, I'm 4 for 4 on making board. It's my lack of quals and command collaterals (though I did finally get my CSOOW letter, but not until after the deadline to submit my package to the board).
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Godholio posted:Most of the real work is done by contractors anyway. Microsoft, Peraton, and a couple of others are doing most of your heavy lifting. I wind up using the fresh military guys as glorified gofers usually since a lot of them are only useful enough for that. On occasion there's a smart one, but the smart ones realize they can make $TEXAS outside and dip after their service commitment to come back working for Microsoft or one of the variety of contractor companies. There will be some uptake on the MCWO or whatever, as there are probably people who don't want to get out but don't want to stay enlisted, but a lot of qualified people are gonna look at the 8y commitment and go "yeahhh, nahhh" orange juche fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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I'll lat transfer to MCWO and stay for 8 years if I can have an outlook mailbox >50mb Edit: no I wont piL fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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piL posted:I'll lat transfer to MCWO and stay for 8 years if I can have an outlook mailbox >50mb Haha, on the outside you can have a mailbox as big as you want, and there's no liberty briefs or having to worry about picking up collateral duties or anything.
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Godholio posted:Most of the real work is done by contractors anyway. Microsoft, Peraton, and a couple of others are doing most of your heavy lifting. That's closer to cwe. Mcwo can supposedly be on keyboard ion/analyst after doing the pipeline But 5 bucks says they get slotted as divos and loaded with bullshit paperwork to make it a waste
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:No it was, I'm 4 for 4 on making board. It's my lack of quals and command collaterals (though I did finally get my CSOOW letter, but not until after the deadline to submit my package to the board). Lol. My ship had all E5s on their first tour grab a CSOOW letter and half of us got CSC qualled. Unfortunate being in for ten plus years without a CSOOW letter in the combat systems world. So since the Freedom ships have tons of equipment failures I get to head down to Florida prior to any LCS deployments to groom the system and provide 'training'. I will still have to fly to Djibouti to fix these things but at least I get to go to Disney more often I guess. PneumonicBook fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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PneumonicBook posted:at least I get to go to Disney more often I guess. That you would frame this as a positive shows how broken you already are.
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AlternateNu posted:That you would frame this as a positive shows how broken you already are. Counterpoint: Guardians is a kick rear end coaster
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piL posted:I'll lat transfer to MCWO and stay for 8 years if I can have an outlook mailbox >50mb I just deleted 400MB without prompting so become a Civil Engineer I guess.
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/16/us/coast-guard-rape-investigations-invs/index.html DOJ isn't pursuing this but USCG finally took his license at least. I think the mate on my last job will likely lose his as well. If he doesn't, I dont have hope for any change. Apparently he was already looking at being hired at another state school, despite being fired for this once before. People wonder why I'm so uptight.
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nah, it's not uptight, your attitude is appropriate. "Male-dominated" career means it's full of disgusting creeps and we need more men taking and assigning accountability to change the way men act towards women.
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US Berder Patrol posted:nah, it's not uptight, your attitude is appropriate. "Male-dominated" career means it's full of disgusting creeps and we need more men taking and assigning accountability to change the way men act towards women. It's wild how many folks seem to think other people share their rear end-backward views of gender/race/etc when they either work with them in the military or find out they are in the military. Some of the poo poo women sailors and women officers have had to hear/put up with/endure is really sickening. Saw this story a couple of days ago and it reminded me of all the terrible experiences some of my friends talked about during flight school
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Jimmy4400nav posted:It's wild how many folks seem to think other people share their rear end-backward views of gender/race/etc when they either work with them in the military or find out they are in the military. Some of the poo poo women sailors and women officers have had to hear/put up with/endure is really sickening. I stopped reading this partway through. I've already seen every situation they've presented more than once and I'm a straight white male. Its loving constant. Using grades/career as blackmail? Yep just did that one, along with a side of invitation to fraternize over alcohol on a dry ship. With minors. Language creating barriers or trashing others to keep them down? Grades came out right before SD when I already had the other thing and I heard, and confirmed, there was a group making GBS threads on the women for doing bad, because they were women, and for doing good, because they got special treatment due to being women. I made sure to have a very clear talk about my experiences and the great black engineers I've sailed with that don't want to raise their license due to racism, or won't sail out of the east coast cause of the racism they face, among other things. lightpole fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Aug 26, 2023 |
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West Coast maritime academy enrollment is dropping and it will soon be unsustainable with the school looking at closing unless MARAD takes them over. The mismanagement, lack of funding, toxic culture, everything is pretty egregious at this point. I can't understand how just tossing another admiral at it doesn't work. There aren't enough officers as it is, closing an academy is just going to kill the industry. If nothing changes, MARAD has no choice but to take over the school or Navy going to have to start filling in logistics slots.
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lightpole posted:West Coast maritime academy enrollment is dropping and it will soon be unsustainable with the school looking at closing unless MARAD takes them over. The mismanagement, lack of funding, toxic culture, everything is pretty egregious at this point. I can't understand how just tossing another admiral at it doesn't work. Are you talking about the school in California, the Cal Maritime school? I am helping my son look at possible career paths and am trying to figure out nautical oriented career paths that are not the Navy.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:Are you talking about the school in California, the Cal Maritime school? I am helping my son look at possible career paths and am trying to figure out nautical oriented career paths that are not the Navy. Yes. I would recommend it for outcomes and if you insist on a maritime career. Most alumni I know absolutely loathe their time, the administration, and the culture though so its not a good or fun 4 year college experience. The SUNY cadets would agree with me it has the best culture out of the academies but thats not really saying much. I'm happy to answer any questions and if he goes there let me know. Here's MARAD payscales for ROS/FOS just for comparison, its pretty standard across unions although some vessel classes are slightly different. I think vacation is 27/30 for 2nd/3rd FOS and 30/30 ce/1st. A lot of people go into buildings/power plants and random tech stuff as well. Dunno about mates.  
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IncredibleIgloo posted:Are you talking about the school in California, the Cal Maritime school? I am helping my son look at possible career paths and am trying to figure out nautical oriented career paths that are not the Navy. If your son wants something Maritime, and would also like to be home every day, and not have to attend a horrible meat grinder of a school, the WA ferry system is desperate for people right now. I've also know a few people that were happy on tugboats.
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Elviscat posted:If your son wants something Maritime, and would also like to be home every day, and not have to attend a horrible meat grinder of a school, the WA ferry system is desperate for people right now. That seems like it would be interesting, hopefully they would have entry level stuff for on the job training and whatnot.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:That seems like it would be interesting, hopefully they would have entry level stuff for on the job training and whatnot. They do, but they're desperate for people because the starting pay is $22.67/hr, no shift guarantees, on call 24/7, nights and weekends required. Compare to McDonald's which starts at $19.50/hr and doesn't drug test.
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MEBA represents engine officers on AMHS and I also thought WA ferries, you just get the WA state pension. Highly recommend he go to school and get a license and degree. He would have to get his MMC and TWIC anyways, I think basic safety and firefighting are a few grand, plus the physical.
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