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I AM GRANDO posted:Bartlett, whispering, with a knowing look, to Shinzo Abe: “You know, spiders are the fiercest killers in the animal kingdom. You know you gotta be careful around spiders. So if you had a big one -- imagine how deadly they are!” "No sir" "Did you wink?" "No sir" "Did you wink there? "No sir" "What about there?" "No sir" "OK" "..." *whispering to shinzo* "I'll ask again when you're gone" Splicer has a new favorite as of 22:44 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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Desert Bus posted:President Josiah Edward "Jed" Bartlet would frequently host screenings of "Wild Wild West" in the White House Family Theater for visiting dignitaries. You know, we can't judge people from the distant past by today's moral standards, but this was pretty terrible.
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Aug 22, 2023 00:37
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NorgLyle posted:There's one scene early on where Leo is doing a crossword puzzle and I thought that was interesting but it is never mentioned again nor is he ever seen working on one on camera. There's also one episode where the President off-handedly mentions making chili but is never shown to have actually done it. I think there was a running gag through the show that Bartley was a pretty bad cook that refused to see otherwise. like the episode he spends the entire time arguing with the Butterball hotline.
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someone mentioned they saw that Phantom 2099 show from the 90s a few pages back. started watching it myself and a couple episodes in, and it's got a pretty neat vibe to it. the peter chung art style is an acquired taste and i myself am not the biggest fan but the show is interesting thus far. a bit hard to watch, admittedly. but definitely intriguing stuffSuleman posted:Let's not forget man, i remember i first encountering this open literally almost 20 years ago (when stuff like this could only be found on sites like retrojunk.com). banger of theme, and always wanted to check it out but never got a chance. until just now that is. and i gotta say, this is a pretty heavy show. they don't pull very many punches, and even show people ACTUALLY getting killed as opposed just implying it like a lot of kids shows do. the music is great too. not just the intro obviously but the in-show stuff as well. and it's also got a ton of episodes too, which is pretty rare for a show like this.
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Mr Interweb posted:someone mentioned they saw that Phantom 2099 show from the 90s a few pages back. started watching it myself and a couple episodes in, and it's got a pretty neat vibe to it. the peter chung art style is an acquired taste and i myself am not the biggest fan but the show is interesting thus far. a bit hard to watch, admittedly. but definitely intriguing stuff I finished that after seeing the same post. That's a damned good show. It builds up a really interesting cast of side characters, it's not afraid to go weird and play it straight, and it has Margot Kidder screaming "happy happy joy joy".
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Desert Bus posted:Wild West media, which is the focus of this thread, peaked in 1999: He turned down The Matrix to do this movie. In another timeline we got a Will Smith Matrix music video.
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Bluemillion posted:He turned down The Matrix to do this movie. To Smith's credit, he admitted he would have "messed it up" and that Keanu and Fishburne were "perfect" in the roles (the plan was for either Neo to be black and Morpheus white or vice versa, and if Smith were cast, the number one choice for Morpheus was Val Kilmer at the peak of his ego)
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Will smith neo woulda been fun, but Morpheus being anyone other then Fishborne is upsetting
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Bluemillion posted:He turned down The Matrix to do this movie. I forgot where I heard it but apparently Wild Wild West was a mess of a movie to make. The director basically got obsessive with a giant mechanical spider and insisted it get put in.
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mandatory lesbian posted:Will smith neo woulda been fun, but Morpheus being anyone other then Fishborne is upsetting They also offered Morpheus to Sean Connery. Imagine the dojo scene with Smith and Connery.
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Mooseontheloose posted:I forgot where I heard it but apparently Wild Wild West was a mess of a movie to make. The director basically got obsessive with a giant mechanical spider and insisted it get put in. There's an interview with Kevin Smith out there where he talks about the director trying to fit that giant mechanical spider into other films before he got his wish in Wild Wild West. The one that sticks out was apparently his insistence on the spider killed a prospective Superman film that was in the works. Wild Wild West was a dumb movie, but the giant steam punk spider was pretty cool, shame it wasn't in a better movie.
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The giant spider was producer Jon Peters' personal white whale. He wanted it in the Kevin Smith directed Superman movie and also a version of Sandman he was working on. You may also know him as the guy that was married to Pamela Anderson for 12 days or as the guy Bradley Cooper played in Licorice Pizza..
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Mooseontheloose posted:I forgot where I heard it but apparently Wild Wild West was a mess of a movie to make. The director basically got obsessive with a giant mechanical spider and insisted it get put in. Despite Peters' obsession with making Superman fight a giant spider, apparently he (or at least his people) tried to veto the spider in WWW: https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshwe...sh=28a5de2c5cb7 quote:As the story goes, Peters was confused as to why there were horses in the script and requested that a motorcycle replace the equestrian elements in the story. This would eventually led to the inclusion of Gordon’s nitro-cycle. Stealth bombers are the fiercest killers in the aircraft kingdom.
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It's a pretty funny story as Smith tells it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo2KB1dEDdk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53hMYw8LX60 I always thought it was really funny how he mentions "Wild Wild West" and about half the crowd (presumably those who have seen the movie) puts it together and starts going fuckin wild with laughter and applause while the other half is like "what?" AceOfFlames posted:Stealth bombers are the fiercest killers in the aircraft kingdom. lmao
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Bluemillion posted:He turned down The Matrix to do this movie. IIRC he's said that the pitch the sisters made to get him was mostly them trying to explain the new camera techniques they were developing instead of the actual story.
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Spoilers for The Flash There's a brief scene of al alternate universe Superman (played by Nicolas Cage) fighting a giant spider. Sure, it's just a goofy Easter-egg for film nerds, but really, it means Peters finally got his wish.
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Randalor posted:There's an interview with Kevin Smith out there where he talks about the director trying to fit that giant mechanical spider into other films before he got his wish in Wild Wild West. The one that sticks out was apparently his insistence on the spider killed a prospective Superman film that was in the works. Kevin Smith has told this anecdote on every single podcast I've ever heard him guest on. It's gotten to the point where I feel like the guy has a real limited amount of interesting things to talk about.
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To be honest, there's a lot of Superman movies that would have been improved if they'd had a giant mechanical spider.
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Angry Salami posted:To be honest, there's a lot of FTFY.
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credburn posted:Kevin Smith has told this anecdote on every single podcast I've ever heard him guest on. It's gotten to the point where I feel like the guy has a real limited amount of interesting things to talk about. That's fair, I've never listened to a podcast with him as a guest on it, I've just seen the clip of him at a con panel telling the story.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Spoilers for The Flash I still can't believe they made that scene. How many hundreds of thousands of dollars spent just to make a joke only a handful of film nerds would get. Better than the usual IP vomit like the rest of that sequence but still. AceOfFlames has a new favorite as of 14:30 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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AceOfFlames posted:Despite Peters' obsession with making Superman fight a giant spider, apparently he (or at least his people) tried to veto the spider in WWW:
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NorgLyle posted:I wish that this was true in canon. The last time I tried to rewatch some of The West Wing I was very quickly put off it by just how weird and inhuman all of the characters seem to be; the writers will try so hard to give them little moments where they act like real people but it never lasts beyond the little joke scene where it occurs and they switch back to being speech robots almost immediately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S78RzZr3IwI Another thing he really likes is a scene where an older man gives a younger woman a stern talking-to about her silly little flibbertigibbet opinions, whether the young woman is too left or too right for his liking. I remember a scene from The West Wing where he's epically owning some female conservative pundit with a "The Bible says you can't eat shellfish, should I stone my daughter or sell her into slavery" rant that you know he just read online somewhere. For a basically conservative liberal who wants leftists to "stop acting like young people," he's ridiculously Online.
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muscles like this! posted:IIRC he's said that the pitch the sisters made to get him was mostly them trying to explain the new camera techniques they were developing instead of the actual story. Here's the original video in case anyone is interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm2szuXKgL8
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Halloween Jack posted:I never noticed this until it was pointed out (because I haven't seen his other work besides A Few Good Men and An American President) but Sorkin loves the sound of his own voice so much that he puts it in every character's mouth, and even recycles lines from one work to the next. Oh yeah, that was definitely one of those smug atheist wall of text memes that he used as a script. One of those "Surely pointing out right wing/Christian hypocrisy will make everyone stand up and clap for me THIS time." monologues.
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Sorkin also gives all his competent women androgynous names and his ditzy women more feminine names.
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Sobatchja Morda posted:They also offered Morpheus to Sean Connery. Isn't that basically Rising Sun?
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I thought Connery was supposed to be the Architect?
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the_steve posted:Oh yeah, that was definitely one of those smug atheist wall of text memes that he used as a script. One of those "Surely pointing out right wing/Christian hypocrisy will make everyone stand up and clap for me THIS time." monologues. Speaking of, I have never seen a show more smug than The loving Newsroom. He actually went and made a show about "this is how journalism should work" using the absolute benefit of hindsight to have his protagonists just happen to call every single major news event exactly right. There was exactly one instance where the protagonists end up getting a story wrong, and that turned out to literally have been due to outside sabotage because the deep state was annoyed at them for being just too good at journalism. 
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Don’t forget the news guy that’s close friends with literally every (boomer) musician, who has parties where everyone stops and listens to him sing and play guitar for horrifically long periods of time. Or the entire newsroom applauding when someone reads 3 sentences without loving up. This bugs the poo poo out of me but that scene with the climate scientist saying “we’re hosed, I’m out” is legit one of the best things I’ve ever seen, so I burned HOURS trying to like that show.
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Warning, the following Sorkin has concentrate cringe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypsQO3dFiB8
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What the actual hell happened in that clip? And how was the flight attendant "crazy"? Also, that clip just made me realize I've never seen an Aaron Sorkin thing.
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Sorkin made Sports Night, a pretty solid show? Then he made the same show 5 more times but worse every time.
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Moneyball was exceptional, but I can't say I see the appeal of anything else he's done.
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Sorkin is Gilmore Girls for boys. Gilmore Boys.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Warning, the following Sorkin has concentrate cringe. Can't believe a discussion about the Newsroom went on for several pages without this clip being posted until now
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Mr Interweb posted:Can't believe a discussion about the Newsroom went on for several pages without this clip being posted until now Some of us have too much respect for ourselves to acknowledge that show was ever made. That's clearly a SNL skit based on Sorkin.
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I do remember the discourse about the penultimate episode. Something about Jeff Daniels going to jail with his ghost dad, a tone-deaf handling of a college-rape case, and Sam Waterson having a hilarious death scene.
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Desert Bus posted:Sorkin made Sports Night, a pretty solid show? Then he made the same show 5 more times but worse every time.
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Mr Interweb posted:Can't believe a discussion about the Newsroom went on for several pages without this clip being posted until now This is the first I've seen it and the "sir, I just wanted you and your crew to know..." was literally jaw dropping.
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