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Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

The Oldest Man posted:

Oh wow a new home NAAT test? Sound gr-



D'oh

I don't see anything on their website about test specificity or agreement with a benchmark lab PCR so, unclear whether it's better/worse/the same as Cue.

e: found it https://www.fda.gov/media/162403/download. Comparison with benchmark is on pages 30 onward but someone else will have to look at Cue's to see if they're better or worse since I need to go.
Looks like Metrix's test is pretty good, judging by the PPV/NPV vs both symptomatic and asymptomatic samples. They target two genes instead of one, which I like. But not sure that they have sample prep/extraction (Cue does), which can be okay for some assays (I'm guessing they're using LAMP like Lucira does).

Might come down to the cost difference IMO.

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Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

I am literally doing it now. So yeah, I reported that post.

Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer
facebook group mods are hardcore

quote:

I’m going to quickly remind everyone that the admin team posted about outdoor transmission recently in the thread below. If you claim that outdoors and unmasked is “safe” without any CURRENT evidence to back that up, your comment will be deleted. Feel free to share your anecdotes if that feels helpful, without making claims of safety. Studies from 2020-2021 are not helpful or relevant to the transmissibility of the current variants. Thanks! -Admin
https://www.facebook.com/groups/796896767888424/permalink/1283116469266449/?mibextid=W9rl1R

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

Right now I still wear a second mask on my face though.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Gunshow Poophole posted:

when you say "mitigate the effects of Covid" do you mean the effects/symptoms of an individual's particular case? or the rolling and now perennial effects at a societal level

because masks don't disrupt like... most businesses. and everyone loving hated them from the jump. nobody sees masks as a positive.

well this ties back into the individual vs societal impacts. masks were an extraordinarily disruptive measure because they were visible. it doesn't help that masks were sold and are still sold as something primarily for you to wear to protect others, either because of your own insanity caution or your own positive covid result

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silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

What's the lady version of this?

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

bedpan posted:

well this ties back into the individual vs societal impacts. masks were an extraordinarily disruptive measure because they were visible. it doesn't help that masks were sold and are still sold as something primarily for you to wear to protect others, either because of your own insanity caution or your own positive covid result

I just think what that poster means is invisible / unnoticeable.

a mask doesn't "disrupt" much of any actual conduct of commerce other than eating or drinking. it disrupts various social functions and interactions that underpin those things.

which, yeah. interventions that nobody has to notice or acknowledge are kinda the dream (and just as real)

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

Gunshow Poophole posted:

when you say "mitigate the effects of Covid" do you mean the effects/symptoms of an individual's particular case? or the rolling and now perennial effects at a societal level

because masks don't disrupt like... most businesses. and everyone loving hated them from the jump. nobody sees masks as a positive.

that’s a totally fair point yeah I never did get why masks got such pushback I’ve never minded wearing one myself and honestly might continue to do so even if someone thanos snapped Covid away. Seriously the extra Covid precautions I’ve taken have also gotten rid of the whole “it’s normal to get sick a couple times a year “ gunk that goes around.

but no I was more talking specifically about medical things like vaccines/boosters. I’m probably naive but I’d think most businesses would see most medical treatment options as a win cause it means they don’t have to change anything else but there’s still less “consequences” for them. I agree masks should have probably fallen under this boat too so I dunno I could just be way off base.

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008



i believe you meant to post this in the biosphere collapse thread

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


Gunshow Poophole posted:

I just think what that poster means is invisible / unnoticeable.

which, yeah. interventions that nobody has to notice or acknowledge are kinda the dream (and just as real)

I mean, with current rates of absenteeism they might just do things with pax at some point that'd make this thread :staredog:.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry
yeah. this is what they meant by the cure being worse than the disease, ultimately.

one hundred percent of people having an n95 on, but alive, is WAY WORSE for the capitalist class than one percent of people being dead because they know it won't be them dying

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

StratGoatCom posted:

I mean, with current rates of absenteeism they might just do things with pax at some point that'd make this thread :staredog:.

Who's they, the wealthy? They already have blue pill and yellow pill gumball machines in their mansions.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

PoundSand posted:

that’s a totally fair point yeah I never did get why masks got such pushback
(..)

Masks being initially politicized and sold as liberal virtue signalling did a lot.

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


Gunshow Poophole posted:

Who's they, the wealthy? They already have blue pill and yellow pill gumball machines in their mansions.

I mean for the hoi paloi, make the calculation that risking resistance and a higher rate of folks having whatever happens when they shouldn't get pax is worth it for Number a bit longer.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Pingui posted:

Masks being initially politicized and sold as liberal virtue signalling did a lot.

in early 2020 i saw the beginnings of this--not specifically masks but the idea that public health was a partisan sort of thing--and i was like "a pandemic is the last thing you should ever attempt to politicize"

too bad the news media didn't see eye to eye with me. well, all the more's ad revenue

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
ehh the news media followed trump, who wanted to be able to declare victory so he could look good

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

nexous posted:

the US has ordered more than 50% of all globally produced paxlovid courses. I’d be concerned about pax resistant variants if there weren’t 8 billion people who couldn’t get pax making new strains

yeah I think prior to when this latest round kicked off we were talking about this, that in a laboratory setting if every Covid infection was treated with paxlovid held to the "within five days" gatekeeping standards, but still allowed limitless spread, variants would evolve a longer latency period with mutations that create a longer latency period would predominate. (adding clarification because the virus isn't a thinking or singular entity). resulting in an effectively "resistant" strain.

however there's only like a few million people who even get a whack at the drug so in the grand scheme of things that selective pressure is minimal / nonexistent

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Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer
paxlovid buyers club

DominoKitten
Aug 7, 2012

silicone thrills posted:

What's the lady version of this?

two GVS eclipses fashioned into a bra

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

nexous posted:

the US has ordered more than 50% of all globally produced paxlovid courses. I’d be concerned about pax resistant variants if there weren’t 8 billion people who couldn’t get pax making new strains

to quote this again and make abundantly clear: the use of paxlovid to treat individual, or even thousands, tens of thousands of cases of Covid will not be what results in the proliferation of a variant that is not treatable with paxlovid. it does not work like antibiotic resistance.

this was a specific concern, and I'm gonna say it a concern troll brought up to dissuade posters from seeking the drug. do not loving listen.

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde
No you see we can't use a drug to protect ourselves because someday a variant will evolve that renders the drug ineffective.

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


We know this policy is stupid, whatever will come after will be horrifically stupid in some direction.

Not much else to be said.

Ham Cheeks
Nov 18, 2012

Feeling hammy
we have the tools

except we shouldn't use them because they'll rust and break

also we don't actually have the tools

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Ham Cheeks posted:

we have the tools

except we shouldn't use them because they'll rust and break

also we don't actually have the tools

Friend went to the phramacy with a pax script, pharmacy said they couldn't fill it due to "supplier issues" which is a new one by me

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

Tulip posted:

Friend went to the phramacy with a pax script, pharmacy said they couldn't fill it due to "supplier issues" which is a new one by me

I have quite a few issues with the supplier* myself.



*the US federal government

nexous
Jan 14, 2003

I just want to be pure
he who supplied it (us govt) denied it (paxlovid)

harrygomm
Oct 19, 2004

can u run n jump?
i just got a call from someone claiming to be doing a survey on behalf of the CDC. phone caller ID showed as CDC NATL IMMUN and they were calling my private/unlisted/whatever number and got through any of the spam filter stuff i have, all that to say i think it was legit

they were asking about precautions being taken for young children and teenagers in my household. i don’t have any so the questions stopped there, but that’sa weird one to get at present

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
Very short article, which I found interesting (I also thought the headline was funny).

https://qz.com/covid-is-here-to-stay-as-a-risk-factor-in-regulatory-fi-1850763617 posted:

Covid is here to stay—as a risk factor in regulatory filings
The WHO declared the health emergency over, but companies still name covid as a financial risk

Although the World Health Organization has ended the covid-19 public health emergency, people around the world still die from covid and lose hours at work because of the disease.

On Wall Street too, covid remains an issue that companies going public want to warn investors about as a potential drag on earnings. For those businesses, it’s now typical to make at least one reference to covid in the regulatory filing they must give to the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) when they IPO. Some companies refer to the pandemic dozens of times.
(..)

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Oh I forgot to say anyone with an Android needs to play Tingus Goose

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



TehSaurus posted:

I’m thinking they’ve never actually needed anything that wasn’t utterly trivial. My mom’s orthopedic surgeon prescribed her naproxen even though he knew she has chronic kidney disease. My wife has seen a litany of specialists over decades and it took one of the absolute best surgeons in his field to realize that she has an extra vertebra and maybe that is the cause of some of her chronic issues. I’ve seen a doctor fill a man’s circulatory system with glue, killing him. That doctor is still practicing and to the best of my knowledge suffered no consequences despite a rich and storied history of terrible outcomes. Doctors ignore and downplay common chronic conditions because they don’t affect white men. They are a key component of the apparatus of structural discrimination.

Plenty of them are just idiot fail sons that don’t give a gently caress. The unfortunate reality is that you need to be your own advocate because any doctor could permanently gently caress you up any time you interact with the healthcare system. If you aren’t sophisticated enough to advocate for yourself, and you’re not wealthy enough to have access to the best doctors (the ones that don’t take any insurance) then good loving luck to you.

I hope Fosborb will accept my preemptive apology for the report this post is sure to generate!
I know that systemic discrimination exists but it would be cool if you didn't deny the existence of white guys with chronic conditions (like me) to make your point.

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

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if we're still talking games:

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde
So much of the discourse on how the medical system fails patients is based on the experiences of women and marginalized groups, and rightfully so, given the magnitude of the failure. My experience as a cishet white dude is that doctors don't listen to me either. Solidarity I guess?

aw frig aw dang it
Jun 1, 2018


Lib and let die posted:

Oh I forgot to say anyone with an Android needs to play Tingus Goose

I will play this. thank u

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
This is my new doctor and I feel confident in being prescribed paxlovid if I need it


I should ask my actual one to confirm that I don’t have any contraindications and if she’d put in the order of the issue comes up. My assumption has been no and probably.

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



DickParasite posted:

So much of the discourse on how the medical system fails patients is based on the experiences of women and marginalized groups, and rightfully so, given the magnitude of the failure. My experience as a cishet white dude is that doctors don't listen to me either. Solidarity I guess?

Yeah, four years ago my primary care physician (who is otherwise good) told me that my tailbone pain was due to the way I was sitting but I'm probably going to have to have it removed. I had to talk to my physical therapist and rheumatologist, who referred me to a neurologist. It's been a huge pain in the rear end, so to speak.

Indoor Dying
Dec 13, 2022
Idk if anyone uses these, I've never tried them (fauci has! lol) but they are really cheap right now on bondafide

https://bonafidemasks.com/harley-n95-l-188-respirator-face-mask/
$15 bucks for a box of 20
and then possibly 25 percent off that, if the code TRUST works for everyone

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

nexous posted:

the US has ordered more than 50% of all globally produced paxlovid courses. I’d be concerned about pax resistant variants if there weren’t 8 billion people who couldn’t get pax making new strains

"Timmy, don't have Paxlovid. There are starving children in Africa who can't even get Paxlovid."

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat


picked up friend from airport

gave her a vflex to put on before she got in my car

drove her home with windows open

since she can’t get pax I bought her a neilmed bottle. she said she struggled with a neti pot before so if neilmed doesn’t work maybe I’ll drop a bottle of Enovid at her place

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat


BTW, the bulk vflexes seem to be identical to regular vflexes other than the pleating pattern. same size, same bands, same wings, just no speed lines.

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Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

tenderjerk posted:

perhaps your wife is not cut out to be a public school teacher if what you described is such an insurmountable task

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

This is so insane lmao

Mekchu has issued a correction as of 04:31 on Aug 23, 2023

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