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Mr Interweb posted:https://twitter.com/J6ssicaWatkins/status/1694193486189236363?t=FJIJ66tyC6du1kNn6OnSNA&s=19 Was she at Jan 6?
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FlamingLiberal posted:Who even is this person From her profile "now a J6 Political Prisoner incarcerated for exercising my 1st amendment rights" If she thinks she's a political prisoner than she's a little off.
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I'm surprised this is the first I'm hearing about a transwoman getting arrested for J6. Did she transition after or something? But lol that she thought that the right was going to come to her rescue when they have spent the last couple of years with trans people as their #1 target
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Aug 23, 2023 22:39
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LloydDobler posted:Gotta post it, this is what we were being taught before Ronald loving Reagan ruined everything. I mean...I don't know how it got complicated that "melting pot" was an allegory for "take the best tasting, finest ingredients from a variety of categories and cook them together until they become a delicious dish that everyone likes". But I guess now it's a negative term that means something else. Smelting Pot? .. Also, figure I'd post this here. Can anyone help me find a definitive list of the controversial books that these yahoos are calling porn and objecting to our kids being able to read them? Google's not giving me much but I want to see some scans and pdfs of what my 12 year old 7th grader can't possibly handle. I want to read these. And since you brought up Reagan, he was the one that welcomed and tapped into the whole moral majority thing that set off satanic panic and this idea that children are routinely subjected to filth that will rot their minds. But these same Reganites make Christmas Cards with their 6 year old kids brandishing shotguns and pistols. America has always been more uptight about sexuality than violence and I think it goes a long way towards explaining why our collective mental health is deteriorating so much. I mean...I WANT my son to grow up and have sex, enjoy sex and have a healthy, respectful, informed and responsible attitude towards sex. I'd really prefer he never shoot anyone and am OK with him never firing a gun. I never have (at least one that's not a BB gun or something). Everyone fucks. Or wants to be loving. Why not educate people about that? One thing I keep remembering though is that Democrats aren't blameless here. Tipper Gore and her Whitehousivewives if DC led the charge on "evil" music and her husband's running mate, Joe Lieberman, took aim at video games. Now, here in Florida, loving Prager University is an approved educational tool.
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Aug 23, 2023 22:40
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FlamingLiberal posted:I'm surprised this is the first I'm hearing about a transwoman getting arrested for J6. Did she transition after or something? No, she had transitioned by that point. She was one of the oathkeepers in tactical gear that did the stack during the break-in. How she squared being trans with that pack of salivating fascists I do not claim to understand.
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Aug 23, 2023 22:41
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BiggerBoat posted:Can anyone help me find a definitive list of the controversial books that these yahoos are calling porn and objecting to our kids being able to read them? Google's not giving me much but I want to see some scans and pdfs of what my 12 year old 7th grader can't possibly handle. I want to read these. I mean, somewhere, someone has a list of books that have been flagged as such, but in general, it's one of a few things:
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Aug 23, 2023 23:00
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Captain_Maclaine posted:No, she had transitioned by that point. She was one of the oathkeepers in tactical gear that did the stack during the break-in.
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Aug 23, 2023 23:14
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CellBlock posted:I mean, somewhere, someone has a list of books that have been flagged as such, but in general, it's one of a few things: Right and thanks I appreciate it. I'm looking for the actual titles and the authors. I know they have to be out there but even RW sites don't seem to be listing any specific ones. Really hoping to read some pornagraphy here before the weekend.
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Aug 23, 2023 23:59
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BiggerBoat posted:Right and thanks I appreciate it. Knock yourself out.
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Aug 24, 2023 00:45
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FlamingLiberal posted:Amazed I had not heard about this person before. That's extremely bizarre. same here. just found out about her today. though now we might be hearing a lot from her
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Aug 24, 2023 01:15
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This Book is Gay and Gender Queer are the two most common ones- Tim Pool straight up keeps a bookmarked copy of Gender Queer on hand during his show so he can ambush guests with "You're ok with letting 5 year is see porn like THIS in schools?". The context is a scene where the protagonist? Talks about how she wore a strap on and had her partner give a stimulated blow job, and that it doesn't do anything for them. I think they are asexual and the book is about them figuring it out? So I guess they're mad about a book that talks about a person figuring out they don't want to have sex with people. Scandalous! This Book is Gay got flack for a section about rimming, which once again became a "they're treating kindergarteners how to lick butt holes!" but what's especially stupid is that the book just defines what it is. Teaching people about anal sex actually seems relavent in regards to making sure people take precautions. Which again, isn't promotion of the act any more than telling a kid to wear a seat belt encourages a kindergartener to get behind the wheel of a Hummer H3 and burn rubber. Something I'm genuinely curious about is what literature they actually think is appropriate for this subject matter. They'll likely sidestep the issue by insisting they don't care if 18+ people read the book, but if you really corner them on what books people should read to understand the subject better, what would they recommend besides "nothing"? Because like a lot of their grievances they seldom have something to replace it with. What's the Moms For Liberty approved content for kids that are curious about LGBTQ topics?
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Aug 24, 2023 01:38
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Panfilo posted:Because like a lot of their grievances they seldom have something to replace it with. What's the Moms For Liberty approved content for kids that are curious about LGBTQ topics? A Bible
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Aug 24, 2023 01:41
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DC Murderverse posted:A Bible OK that's like the free bingo space here come on
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Aug 24, 2023 01:44
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Mr Interweb posted:same here. just found out about her today. though now we might be hearing a lot from her Really? Just about every news organization there is heavily reported on her right after the insurrection. She was one of the instrumental Oathkeepers on the ground.
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Aug 24, 2023 01:56
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Holy poo poo, the narrator lead with the overturn of Roe v Wade. These fools are getting housed in 2024.
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Aug 24, 2023 02:02
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In the early 2000s, I was in 6th grade and read a book that ended with the main character being tied up by a girl that may have murdered someone, hoping for kinky sex, and instead having his mouth duct taped shut and forced to snort poisoned coke that killed him. Somehow I think reading a book where “guy says he’s gay, life goes on” wouldn’t have negatively jammed its way into my brain
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:In the early 2000s, I was in 6th grade and read a book that ended with the main character being tied up by a girl that may have murdered someone, hoping for kinky sex, and instead having his mouth duct taped shut and forced to snort poisoned coke that killed him. We're talking about people who decry rap lyrics while also writing revenge fantasy books about murdering people who didn't give them broadcasting jobs (Those Who Trespass by Bill O'Reilly). So they think the violent murder stuff is fine.
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Aug 24, 2023 02:46
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Panfilo posted:OK that's like the free bingo space here come on Well that's about it. If not a bible then probably a beating.
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Aug 24, 2023 02:53
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Could always bring up the handful of particularly gruesome/nasty parts of the Bible in response. Or maybe they really do approve of Lot’s daughters having sex with their father, that would probably be on point for some republicans.
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Panfilo posted:Something I'm genuinely curious about is what literature they actually think is appropriate for this subject matter. They'll likely sidestep the issue by insisting they don't care if 18+ people read the book, but if you really corner them on what books people should read to understand the subject better, what would they recommend besides "nothing"? Pretty sure they'd dodge the question entirely by saying "well it's up to their parents to choose something appropriate". Note: I'm not supporting that position in any way. I'm just sure that's how they'd respond. And if you pressed them for examples they would just repeat it as if it were an answer.
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Aug 24, 2023 03:03
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Bird in a Blender posted:Could always bring up the handful of particularly gruesome/nasty parts of the Bible in response. Or maybe they really do approve of Lot’s daughters having sex with their father, that would probably be on point for some republicans. something something new covenant something something
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:In the early 2000s, I was in 6th grade and read a book that ended with the main character being tied up by a girl that may have murdered someone, hoping for kinky sex, and instead having his mouth duct taped shut and forced to snort poisoned coke that killed him. Any girl in the 1990s was reading VC Andrews books. Literally just rape and murder and kidnapping and incest and totally inappropriate trash and we all loved every bit of it. For some reason teachers and parents let us read them I guess because they are chapter books, and we girls felt like we were getting away with something by reading them. It is such hosed up stuff, it's insane I was able to read that stuff openly in my middle school classes.
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Panfilo posted:Something I'm genuinely curious about is what literature they actually think is appropriate for this subject matter. They'll likely sidestep the issue by insisting they don't care if 18+ people read the book, but if you really corner them on what books people should read to understand the subject better, what would they recommend besides "nothing"?
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bird food bathtub posted:Well that's about it. If not a bible then probably a beating. Book learning lets the devil in.
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mllaneza posted:We might actually get bipartisan support for Bureau of Prisons to change its policies out of this, so that's good. And she absolutely deserves to spend the 8-year sentence she earned, in a women's prison. She’s not useful any more, so she goes into the oven with the rest. Making republicans choose between one of the good ones or leaving their agenda in place is no choice at all. It’s like those ICE guys who got deported despite being rabid trump fans who had the best arrest numbers in their cities, who all cried into the local news cameras with the expectation that if only trump could hear them, he would swoop in and save them because they were so loyal.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:In the early 2000s, I was in 6th grade and read a book that ended with the main character being tied up by a girl that may have murdered someone, hoping for kinky sex, and instead having his mouth duct taped shut and forced to snort poisoned coke that killed him. I bought The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer from the Scholastic Book Fair in fifth grade.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFvQLdzzI7g (SomethingAwful goon murders a child - Mad at the Internet) I’m going to count Mad At The Internet as right wing media, since the host Josh Moon (or “Null”) claims to be libertarian but is actually effectively a white supremacist. He’s on the warpath about this Something Awful goon who murdered a child even though the forums had absolutely nothing to do with the murder. He’s complaining about CloudFlare continuing to protect SA and he’s mad that CF dumped Kiwi Farms after all the controversy last year. (The real reason CF ditched KF was complaint volume, btw) I think his argument is really stupid and weak. There are plenty of other sites protected by CloudFlare that he could rally against; ones where users actually commit crimes and cause trouble directly through said website. 4chan, for instance. tehslime fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Aug 24, 2023 |
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tehslime posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFvQLdzzI7g (SomethingAwful goon murders a child - Mad at the Internet) KiwiFarms is literally a cesspool of the internet almost on par with 4chan. It's basically like if all the Helldump goons made their own site. gently caress 'em.
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lol that means he's an ex goon and is still salty about one of their 6ers and the 10buck ban.
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/TomiLahren/status/1694525563497492615?t=_Nc0j06sCUXjsp2BP1xKug&s=19
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That trans J6 lady asked Gym Jordan and MTG for help. She's hosed.
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reminder that Tomi lost her job at Beck Blaze for daring to be not ultra regressive on abortion. which technically is a promotion for her because even a Fox on a supposed decline is still bigger than all the other regressive poo poo.
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LloydDobler posted:Gotta post it, this is what we were being taught before Ronald loving Reagan ruined everything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU
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I’ve seen right wingers on social media crowing about liberals being “triggered” or “outraged” or whatever about Trump lying about his weight. It’s funny how they can interpret bemused derision as rage. It reminds me of when Ben Garrison put out this coffee mug and everybody mocked him: He was sure the liberals were furious! It is messed up to make fun of anyone for being fat, but I’m not sure if it’s bad to make fun of somebody for very insistent they are not at all fat when they are very clearly and visibly at least a bit fat. Like, I’m at least 3 inches shorter than Trump and weigh 220 and do not work out and I don’t even wear size XL shirts. Like, it’s not funny that Trump has stubby fingers either, but it’s pretty funny he protests so strongly if you mention it.
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Panfilo posted:Something I'm genuinely curious about is what literature they actually think is appropriate for this subject matter. They'll likely sidestep the issue by insisting they don't care if 18+ people read the book, but if you really corner them on what books people should read to understand the subject better, what would they recommend besides "nothing"? There is no queer literature they consider appropriate. Their explicit view is that teaching minors about gender identity or sexual orientation is "sexualizing our children and grooming them to be sexually exploited." In other words, if you teach a child that gay people exist and that it's okay to be gay, in their view, you are trying to recruit that child to be gay so that gay people can predate on them. This rhetoric is very, very old, and it was endemic when I was a kid in the 90s and into the 2000s. But the Right has given it a new coat of paint by replacing "child predators" with "groomers" and effectively co-opting the MeToo movement to claim that queers are engaging in mass sexual abuse of minors by teaching them that gay penguins exist. The Sartre quote about bad faith arguments applies here. These people want to eradicate queers from the public sphere and relegate them back to a shadowy and shameful existence as second-class citizens. They are weaponizing the leverage the public has over municipal employees (teachers and librarians) and are effectively engaging in a scorched-earth strategy, burning bridges and eroding legitimacy in institutions, to try to remove queer content from the public sphere in the most direct way that a Concerned Mom has the ability to. They're engaging in fascism--it's not about democratically engaging with the system, it's about targeting weaknesses in the system to deface it so they can eradicate impurities in the culture.
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I guess the ‘good’ news is that the attempt to turn the culture against LGBTQ people is not really working outside of the GOP base. They really waited too long to try this. I think it may have had more general pull if they had pushed harder after gay marriage was legalized.
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I’m not even sure it would have helped trying it back then; public opinion was way ahead of the government on the issue, and the attempt to make Kim What’s-her-name in KY a hero and martyr for not certifying gay marriages got very little traction. But I’m not even sure that “general pull” is even part of this, it seems much more focused on creating and enforcing manichean divisions. Like, I think the GOP is largely giving up on being a national party in favor of being an extreme party in the places it does have control.
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