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Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

VomitOnLino posted:

That's a weird way to spell China

Nah, we did have lockdowns strict enough to almost wipe out COVID here :denmark:

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Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
Australia did have serious ones. The UK had enforced enough ones that it was a scandal when Boris broke the rules. The US' total capitulation stands out.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Pingui posted:

Nah, we did have lockdowns strict enough to almost wipe out COVID here :denmark:

Oh word. Cripes that makes the current state of things even funnier tho... lmao

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
korea had pretty strict lockdowns/prevention policies in place including mask rationing.

edit -

at one point there was an attempt by the gov't to force any foreigners working in Korea to be tested (in the seoul/gyeonggido area) regardless of how recent of an arrival hey were or if they had left the country pre-fall 2019 or not. it blew up in their faces hilariously.

they forced like 100k people in the seoul area to go congregate at one specific testing center and wait for hours on end with others on a Saturday only to find <1% of those tested having COVID. which then led to people using it as evidence to support their xenophobic/racist rhetoric which still is used today to deny non-koreans access to businesses (since there's no anti-discrimination laws). meanwhile there were koreans catching covid and nobody batted an eye at the hypocrisy. there was also a hilarious incident of a korean mom and college aged daughter catching covid and then just flying down to jeju (korea's attempt at a hawaii-like vacation spot) breaking quarantine rules and wound up being sued by the jeju gov't.

Mekchu has issued a correction as of 02:47 on Aug 24, 2023

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
I remembered the old "dead virus in the nose" bit when I was thinking about the person who was sick on Monday and how the host has tried her best to get people to test beforehand. I wanted to make sure I remembered the quote and found this that's still up on Blue Shield CA's site and was updated in November of last year.

quote:

Situation: You feel fine but need a negative test for school, work, or a social gathering.
Your best test: An at-home rapid test

Unless your school, work, or hosts require a PCR test, a rapid test is your best bet. A home test will give you results in a matter of minutes. A PCR test can take days. A positive rapid test result is very reliable and means you currently have an infection. (Also keep in mind that a negative result doesn’t rule out an infection, according to the CDC.)

Taking a PCR test in this situation might actually make things more confusing. “The PCR is so sensitive that it can pick up a few dead viral particles in your nose,” says Monica Gandhi, MD. She’s an infectious disease specialist at the University of California, San Francisco.

Listen, a PCR might say you're sick and that would be a huge buzzkill so use a rapid.

https://www.blueshieldca.com/en/coronavirus/articles/pick-best-covid-test

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

Shiroc posted:

Australia did have serious ones. The UK had enforced enough ones that it was a scandal when Boris broke the rules. The US' total capitulation stands out.

yeah Australia did it well for like what almost two years? and the openederup and immediately got destroyed haha

nexous
Jan 14, 2003

I just want to be pure

Gunshow Poophole posted:

yeah Australia did it well for like what almost two years? and the openederup and immediately got destroyed haha

well at least they killed way less of their citizens per capita in the last 3 years

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Shiroc posted:

Australia did have serious ones. The UK had enforced enough ones that it was a scandal when Boris broke the rules. The US' total capitulation stands out.

In Japan it was pretty much: "Pretty please don't go out? Plz?" also Abe (RIP, lol) closed the schools briefly.That turned out to be massively unpopular, as almost every family here is dual income and no alternative was offered. Just "deal with it". People still had to go to work etc

Despite all this I still saw tons and tons of people dining-in and drinking. On the other hand masking compliance was decent at 95% and thus despite not even really trying, cases trended down or usually undulated around a low-ish level.
I guess it also helped that these "early days" variants were a lot less transmissible ...

But, even doing this little was clearly asking too much. So now no one is doing any precautions whatsoever... and thus....


(Above Japanese means "Can't smell.." lmao)

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gunshow Poophole posted:

yeah Australia did it well for like what almost two years? and the openederup and immediately got destroyed haha

depends on the state you're talking about. queensland had the strictest protocols and after easing them up seems fine from what i've seen in terms of a day-to-day living experience.

Mekchu has issued a correction as of 03:04 on Aug 24, 2023

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

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nexous posted:

of loving course they did. the flu literally disappeared! gone! none of it when we tried.

I still can't believe this isn't widely known. Half-assed disease control measures killed half the flu. Like, assuming governments were capable of handling this sort of thing, they could have gone, "Covid has died out, but we're gonna lock down for an extra week just in case and to see if we can get rid of one of the seasonal cold variants and eradicate the flu for good. Here's food and $2000." Better worlds are possible, we just choose not to live in them.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Rochallor posted:

I still can't believe this isn't widely known. Half-assed disease control measures killed half the flu. Like, assuming governments were capable of handling this sort of thing, they could have gone, "Covid has died out, but we're gonna lock down for an extra week just in case and to see if we can get rid of one of the seasonal cold variants and eradicate the flu for good. Here's food and $2000." Better worlds are possible, we just choose not to live in them.

loving amen.
We also (compared to now) got so infuriatingly close to not having to live in this covid hellworld, but then it was decided "No better things are in fact not possible. gently caress you"

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

VomitOnLino posted:

In Japan it was pretty much: "Pretty please don't go out? Plz?" also Abe (RIP, lol) closed the schools briefly.That turned out to be massively unpopular, as almost every family here is dual income and no alternative was offered. Just "deal with it". People still had to go to work etc
(..)

I got the sense that Japans inbound travel was heavily restricted, is that wrong?

bobtheconqueror
May 10, 2005

Rochallor posted:

I still can't believe this isn't widely known. Half-assed disease control measures killed half the flu. Like, assuming governments were capable of handling this sort of thing, they could have gone, "Covid has died out, but we're gonna lock down for an extra week just in case and to see if we can get rid of one of the seasonal cold variants and eradicate the flu for good. Here's food and $2000." Better worlds are possible, we just choose not to live in them.

Yeah it's like some kind of normalization process has been going on where those in authority say everything is fine and things can't be better to cover their rear end and dodge responsibility, and since we live in the delusion of a meritocracy most people assume those authorities must be telling the truth, and flag dissenters as crazy or stupid. Surely they wouldn't be making these decisions if they weren't qualified!

Edit: The minimizers aren't even necessarily greedy or malicious. They just care more about keeping their position than protecting others.

bobtheconqueror has issued a correction as of 03:00 on Aug 24, 2023

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
The poor US chart where you can see basically exactly where victory was declared and masks were declared unnecessary for vaccinated people


Official cases at the end of that chart in March 2023, with testing numbers completely destroyed were still 2x above that low point

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

Mekchu posted:

depends on the state you're talking about. queensland had the stricted protocols and after easing them up seems fine from what i've seen in terms of a day-to-day living experience.
This rear end in a top hat was the responsible party:


NSW had an outbreak and she kept doing too little too late.

Or at least that is the official story...

True COVID heads know that it was Unfortunate Sexfart and his vacation planning, but ya'll ain't ready for that conversation.

Pingui has issued a correction as of 03:04 on Aug 24, 2023

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pingui posted:

This rear end in a top hat was the responsible party:


NSW had an outbreak and she kept doing too little too late.

Or at least that is the official story...

True COVID heads know that it was Unfortunate Sexfart and his vacation planning, but ya'll ain't ready for that conversation.

i don't keep up with australian politics, but wasn't she being investigated or is that for something unrelated?

edit - it's a corruption investigation i guess, so not directly related to her management for the covid stuff but could be.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Gunshow Poophole posted:

yeah Australia did it well for like what almost two years? and the openederup and immediately got destroyed haha

Yeah our openerup point just happened to coincide with the start of the omicron wave and hooboy did we ever make up for lost time

https://ourworldindata.org/explorer...ositivity=false

nexous posted:

well at least they killed way less of their citizens per capita in the last 3 years

Yep, we really managed to keep the deaths to a minimum until the start of 2022. Of course since then our per capita rate of covid deaths has been pretty much exactly the same as the US and the UK

https://ourworldindata.org/explorer...ositivity=false

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

Mekchu posted:

i don't keep up with australian politics, but wasn't she being investigated or is that for something unrelated?

edit - corruption

Yes and she had to resign because of it. Unfortunately too late.

Edit: It was unrelated to her COVID handling, but very related to her being an rear end in a top hat.

Pingui has issued a correction as of 03:12 on Aug 24, 2023

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Pingui posted:

I got the sense that Japans inbound travel was heavily restricted, is that wrong?

You are right, it was, unless you were monied and well connected - then it wasn't...

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck

Pingui posted:

I got the sense that Japans inbound travel was heavily restricted, is that wrong?

Yeah, that stayed in effect until like... September of last year, I think? All inbound travelers had to quarantine, unless they were Japanese nationals in which case it was "please don't go anywhere for 2 weeks, kthx bye" and then people would immediately go out to, uh, I guess Saizeriya is the Japanese equivalent of Applebee's. Of course, there was plenty of homegrown covid to go around.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
tourists going to japan had to have evidence of covid vaccination, and for the first part of the tourist travel re-opening you were restricted to guided tour groups. the tour group stuff went away towards end of 2022 but when i went in february for a visa run it was still necessary to have evidence of your covid vaccination to enter. same as in korea, but korea you needed to show you were vaccinated before you could board the flight into the country.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



A colleague of mine had to jump through a bunch of hoops to first get married (because common law isn't a thing in most of the world) and then quarantine for ... a few weeks? before he could start his job in Japan.

Meanwhile, other colleagues in Western Australia were extremely mad that they couldn't travel back home for months after vaccines became available there, back in the heady days of fearing getting infected in a country where you might not have health insurance.

Anyway it's all starting to come back, the hazy memories of lockdowns and banging on pots and pans. I found a picture of myself in a surgical mask the other day because we had gently caress all besides a couple of Moldex valved N95s for home repair poo poo.

Precambrian Video Games has issued a correction as of 03:44 on Aug 24, 2023

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
Gotta say that I strongly dislike the present moderating climate of aggressively punishing and shaming people who are or care for immunocompromised people for getting frustrated and lashing out at being called r-slurs and dangers to the forums and society on a whole for years.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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nexous
Jan 14, 2003

I just want to be pure

this was super funny until I realized I’m going the opposite direction. I’ve given up elastomerics into growing my beard back. I still wear a Vflex, but I don’t go out into public enough to warrant the strange looks. I’m weak

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Shiroc posted:

Gotta say that I strongly dislike the present moderating climate of aggressively punishing and shaming people who are or care for immunocompromised people for getting frustrated and lashing out at being called r-slurs and dangers to the forums and society on a whole for years.

nobody called anyone an r-slur though? like where did that happen in this thread?

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Oh, cool. We're in the part of the QCS cycle where it's an FFA to troll this thread without repercussions, and mods are looking for enough bans and permas to make the gossip crew shut up for a couple weeks.

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nexous
Jan 14, 2003

I just want to be pure

Mekchu posted:

nobody called anyone an r-slur though? like where did that happen in this thread?

this. the problem isnt that this thread cares about getting Covid, it’s the fringe weirdos who make their own chemicals, lock their wives in the bedroom after going to the dentist, not going to the store for 3.5 years. talk about getting a gun in case anyone makes fun of your mask.

the us vs them bullshit is tiresome. people are trying to get this thread closed occasionally because of fringe poo poo from a couple of posters that can lead to harm. nobody cares if you don’t want Covid due to immunocomprimised whatever.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Rochallor posted:

Just reminded of the time about a year ago when I took a tour of some old underground tunnels and the tour guide started handing out masks. One or two people scoffed, and she said, "It's not for covid, it's really musty down there." Which caused the skeptics to mask up super quick lest they catch... must.



Fansy posted:

I'm proud to post in somethingawful's most controversial thread

the worst the forums has to offer,

constantly being handed rope by which they use to strangle the rest of the forums

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nexous
Jan 14, 2003

I just want to be pure

jetz0r posted:

Oh, cool. We're in the part of the QCS cycle where it's an FFA to troll this thread without repercussions, and mods are looking for enough bans and permas to make the gossip crew shut up for a couple weeks.

what trolling? there’s a couple posts per page saying “lol” at some weirder than avg Covid posting.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

jetz0r posted:

Oh, cool. We're in the part of the QCS cycle where it's an FFA to troll this thread without repercussions, and mods are looking for enough bans and permas to make the gossip crew shut up for a couple weeks.

what? you're being weird and tilting at windmills.

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
Sorry that I referenced three whole months ago where "Mega Tard" was the rallying cry of the dumbest assholes on the forums.

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

jetz0r posted:

Oh, cool. We're in the part of the QCS cycle where it's an FFA to troll this thread without repercussions, and mods are looking for enough bans and permas to make the gossip crew shut up for a couple weeks.

even if you feel your paranoia is justified now is the time to keep it to yourself

this is the kind of thing that just keeps the train rolling

BigWeirdSashimi
Jul 10, 2019

Mekchu posted:

what? you're being weird and tilting at windmills.

Lmao I'd have an opinion, but it's just too weird. I still wear a mask and everything

Kragger99
Mar 21, 2004
Pillbug
Drake yes: Pretend covid is over
also Drake yes: Pretend the minimizers don't exist here

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

Delta-Wye posted:

maybe if your poo poo still worked you could make a few million more

edit: dollars, not deaths

this got reported as being anti vaxx

just to be clear to lurkers, Bastard Tetris specifically worked on bamlanivimab, which hasn't worked since omicron and is no longer authorized to be used anywhere in the US

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
I don't think I ever saw that bamlbamabaln used in my hospital it's always been remdesivir

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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fosborb posted:

this got reported as being anti vaxx

just to be clear to lurkers, Bastard Tetris specifically worked on bamlanivimab, which hasn't worked since omicron and is no longer authorized to be used anywhere in the US

Queue thirty days of probation for the reporter.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
vox slapped our favorite moneybags with another 6er, and i can't stop laughing at the reason

quote:

Either bragging about pandemic profiteering or LARPING as a pandemic profiteer, both of which suck.

im happy to see itt mods agree with me - people making pharmaceuticals to combat the pandemic are clearly pandemic profiteers and should be punished. vaccine manufacturers? probatation! mabs designers? you better believe that's a probation. ppe factory worker? 6er, coming up!!

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Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

fosborb posted:

this got reported as being anti vaxx

just to be clear to lurkers, Bastard Tetris specifically worked on bamlanivimab, which hasn't worked since omicron and is no longer authorized to be used anywhere in the US

gently caress yes, i love it.

i was being sarcastic anyways, seems like he was doing good work. couldn't outrun the suck and gently caress

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