hailthefish posted:

omw to check unread posts in this thread



yup that's posts

Harold Fjord posted:

I think there was a bit of the exaggeration, given that genocide is literally not possible, and she was trying to express that the impact is disproportionately ablist, obviously.

Seems to be taken as "manipulation towards getting someone else banned"

Harold Fjord posted:

No that was on purpose

Harold Fjord posted:

Overall the thread is in a good place right now tho

SardonicTyrant posted:

It's a hidden bout because the case of covid he had was only disclosed after he died, and months after he caught it.


"The five palm exploding heart technique ain't poo poo. Wow I can't believe I dropped dead in the middle of a light jog"

captainbananas posted:

SardonicTyrant posted:

We are like the shitposter who shits and then lives in our own poo poo.

Mekchu posted:

you're right, i misremembered what the tweet said

speng31b posted:

I fear that my previous post is going to read as too insincere or jokey now, so I'll just be blunt about it. It's not legal to say a post is genocide because it's critical of this thread, or for most other reasons, even if you think it's an exaggeration.

Saying "free <poster>" is fine for rich historic reasons, but anything that sincerely reads as calling a post genocide or defending that take is going to get probated.

Mekchu posted:

you're right, i misread/misremembered what the tweet said. i thought it was just 1 case of covid he had, which lead to the heart problems then heart attack.

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

ohh god drat she literally did post her own information in an avatar she bought herself and the mods had to scrub it

holy lol

Buffer posted:

Well, in CSPAM this is true (and under the eye of vyelkin), and I am glad of it - even if I generally like Silicon Thrills as a poster and their contributions to threads.

Probably can't expand it forums wide while the war is on, though, unfortunately. (and no I have not been keeping lists of offenses and posters to point to specific examples)

Platystemon posted:

No way was it her real address.

It was a random house.

Right?

Right?!

Platystemon posted:

No way was it her real address.

It was a random house.

Right?

Right?!

speng31b posted:

I expect that would be a challenging argument to make in forums court.

captainbananas posted:

i think your chronology is right, but apparently it was not public knowledge that he had in fact had covid and then infection-related-or-magnified heart problems and then heart attack. this is specifically because admitting to being sick with covid is a no-no for many performers either because of insurance contract structures or because it will have other spillover effects on their ability to earn a living. someone earlier mentioned wrestlers needing to do a lot of high-fan-contact gladhandling/PR/con booth type poo poo, etc. now the guy's family want people to know that's what happened, per that xeet and the next xeet in the xead

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

banning hyperbolic accusations of genocide would be nice as a tool against sinophobia on SA but alas

Mekchu posted:

also because vince mcmahon/wwe has a horrible mindset about how to treat their performers which is replicated in the ufc now they're owned by the same company now

Buffer posted:

Well, in CSPAM this is true (and under the eye of vyelkin), and I am glad of it - even if I generally like Silicon Thrills as a poster and their contributions to threads.

Probably can't expand it forums wide while the war is on, though, unfortunately. (and no I have not been keeping lists of offenses and posters to point to specific examples)

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

banning hyperbolic accusations of genocide would be nice as a tool against sinophobia on SA but alas

Lib and let die posted:

What war?

Buffer posted:

Well, in CSPAM this is true (and under the eye of vyelkin), and I am glad of it - even if I generally like Silicon Thrills as a poster and their contributions to threads.

Probably can't expand it forums wide while the war is on, though, unfortunately. (and no I have not been keeping lists of offenses and posters to point to specific examples)

mags posted:

the thing about celebrity illness and death etc is really i might question internally or even make a joke here or there but overall the "cover up" of covid when it comes to someone's personal health doesn't really bother me that much? but maybe im just conditioned like most to respect families and people in a time of loss or whatever, and covid consciousness aside people have always tended to be pretty tight-lipped about health specifics when a loved one is ill or dies. we know covid is everywhere and that it is still killing and doing other horrible things, so it doesn't bother me when they "cover it up" idk. that's just me

e: the performer issue is an aside thing, but from an exploited worker concern, as performers have to tour to keep being in music etc, unless you are an ultra celebrity, and then you have a performance to maintain to keep the industry looking like everything is fine.

genericnick posted:

Nothing against Silicon, but a report is effectively a post in the mod forum and going in that hot is a "flying to moscow on a small plane" level idea.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/25/health/covid-vaccine-release/index.html posted:

Updated Covid-19 vaccines are coming mid-September, officials say

Covid-19 vaccines that have been tweaked to teach the body how to fend off the current crop of circulating variants are now expected to land in drugstores and clinics in mid-September, CDC and FDA officials said.

The officials spoke Thursday about the US government’s preparations for the fall and winter respiratory virus season on the condition that they not be named.

The US Food and Drug Administration is expected to give its nod to the updated vaccines in a few weeks. Then the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, a group of independent experts that advises the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on its vaccination decisions, will weigh the safety and effectiveness of the new shots and make recommendations for their use. After the CDC director signs off on those recommendations, the vaccines can be administered.

Officials said ACIP will meet quickly after the FDA decision in order to expedite the regulatory steps and get the vaccines to market. The advisory group is scheduled to meet to discuss Covid-19 vaccines on September 12, meaning the vaccines could become available soon after.

The announcement comes amid a late summer uptick in Covid-19. The CDC tracks the disease through hospitalizations and emergency room visits, as well as wastewater monitoring and testing of travelers at some airports. More than 12,600 Americans are hospitalized with Covid-19, and that number is rising, jumping 22% in the most recent week.

Still, the officials said, those are levels that are about one-third of where they were a year ago, largely thanks to immunity from vaccinations and prior infections.

But antibodies against Covid-19 wane over time, and many Americans are due for a tuneup. Only about 17% of those eligible got the bivalent vaccines last fall, the last time the immunizations were updated. Three vaccines are expected to be available this year. Two are mRNA vaccines, from Pfizer and Moderna, and a third protein subunit vaccine from Novavax. The Novavax vaccine uses an older type of technology that contains the spike protein of the virus that causes Covid-19, plus an ingredient that revs up the immune system to crank out antibodies against it.

Both vaccine technologies are well-understood and safe, and they have been proven in the real world and in clinical studies to reduce the risk of hospitalization and deaths from Covid-19, the officials said.

The FDA plans to grant full licensure for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines for people 12 and older. Vaccines for children 11 and under, as well as the Novavax vaccine, will be available under an emergency use authorization, the officials said.

The vaccines have been updated to teach the body to fight the XBB.1.5 coronavirus subvariant. They are also expected to retain potency against closely related strains. All three vaccine manufacturers say testing shows that their vaccines are effective against EG.5, the currently dominant strain in the US.

While vaccines were previously provided for free by the government, this is the first time vaccines will be provided through the commercial market. Under the Affordable Care Act, most insurance plans are required to cover the full cost of vaccines, without co-pays.

People who don’t have insurance, or who don’t have enough insurance, can still get vaccines for free through a government bridge program.

“That bridge program will exist through a few channels,” CDC Director Dr. Mandy Cohen said in an interview with CNN last week. “Folks can go to a federally qualified health center or they can go to their public health department. … And then the third option is, we are working with pharmacy partners such as CVS, Walgreens, Walmart and others to have it available in the pharmacies as well.”

The details of the pharmacy program are still being worked out, and there may be a slight lag in getting free vaccines at some stores. But health departments and federally qualified health centers should have them right away, Cohen said.

People will only need to tell their vaccine provider that they don’t have insurance to qualify for the benefit, she said.

Cohen also said unless a person has never been vaccinated and never been infected, it’s probably better to wait until the new vaccines come out in September, rather than opting to get one of the older bivalent vaccines now. Getting a bivalent vaccine now might delay a person’s ability to get the new shot within the next few weeks, she cautioned. In a video Q&A posted online, she advised anyone in this circumstance to talk with their doctor or nurse practitioner about their individual risk.

In addition, there are still a significant number of Covid-19 tests in the Strategic National Stockpile. The government has been sending those free tests to nursing homes and assisted living facilities, federally qualified health centers, school, libraries and a number of other places that serve the public. That program will continue, officials said. There’s also the option to bring back Covidtest.gov, the website where people can order free tests.

Gunshow Poophole posted:

lol I ordered both flo and betadine nasal sprays from Amazon (usa #1) and both showed up open box no seals lmao I'm sposeda squirt this in my nose??

wish there was a reputable importer available

RealityWarCriminal posted:

I don't like "covering up" covid because it normalizes that it's over for the sake of returning to business

early 2020 had one wrestler (adam page) with a storyline of being concerned with covid. now he wrestles in crowd soup every week.

captainbananas posted:

it's fine if families don't want to discuss it. this family does, according to the social media account of a guy who reports on wrestling professionally as far as I can tell. not everyone is in fact tight-lipped, though, particularly when the cause of death is seen as part of a broader, bigger, structural problem. like former NFLer and NHLer TBIs, for example

for me the whole "can't say it's covid" phenomenon with performers problem is more about the structural incentives. specifically, though not exclusively, the voiding of insurance coverage for cancelling work due to illness if and only if the illness is covid. and the downstream effects those incentives have, ranging from public perceptions of the material reality as it relates to ongoing harms to a very large number of people, to raging internet slapfights that are boring as poo poo, to me

NeonPunk posted:

Not sure if this is just a "special operation" joke or if this is just a Covid brain fog joke that folks forgot about the Ukraine

text editor posted:

I don't think I've reported posts in over a decade because I constantly come under the posting equivalent of the bystander effect, I see something gross or bad and say "that's too terrible to ignore, someone probably already sent a report about it"

Harold Fjord posted:

Now if you click report it'll tell you immediately if someone already did instead of you composing a detailed, carefully written so as not to be punished, report only to find out someone got in ahead of you with a "WTC??!?!! FFF ZZZZ MODS?" So no worries.

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

you can instantly check whether any post has been reported, consequence-free? how long has that been around