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James Garfield posted:That's the regular citizenship test, almost everyone who takes it passes. The goal isn't the same as the old way, where the official could "just tell" if the person was going to pass. The whole point is simply to make it a hassle for a demographic that isn't favorable to you to vote. It doesn't matter how easy or hard the test is, what matters is making people jump through extra hoops to be able to vote. It's just another option in the arsenal of make voting annoying tactics. You need a photo ID, you have to register X amount of time before the election, curtailing early voting, curtailing mail voting, decreasing the number of polling places, etc. It's all to make voting a pain in the rear end, because older, wealthier, white people will crawl through broken glass to pull that Republican Lever.
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James Garfield posted:That's the regular citizenship test, almost everyone who takes it passes. Currently, everyone who takes it are non-citizens who want to become US citizens. I don't really expect born-and-raised Americans fresh out of high school to have the same level of civics knowledge or the same level of motivation to study and prepare for the test. It's not an insurmountable obstacle by any means, but it's not a trivial one either, especially for the age group that already has the lowest turnout. Of course, the test could always get tougher. It's overseen by executive agencies that can change the contents and procedures of the test at any time without needing Congressional approval. For example, the Trump administration changed the test to make it significantly harder by adding new questions, replacing existing questions with more difficult versions, and doubling the number of questions applicants had to answer correctly. It's not very well-known because it only lasted a few months before the Biden administration scrapped that version of the test and returned to using the pre-Trump test. Gating voting rights behind a test that presidents can change at a whim is ripe for abuse. Though in the end, none of this really matters because changing the voting age requires a constitutional amendment. Even if Vivek somehow wins the presidency, there's no way in hell he's passing an amendment like that. It's anyone's guess whether he realizes that, though. It could just be an appeal to the youth-hating sections of the GOP base, or he could be a true believer who really thinks he can do it. I don't dare to think I can tell the difference with him.
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Right, the Vivek plan is obviously bad. But the test that was posted earlier is the citizenship test, not something Republicans wrote to prevent voting. It asks 10 questions drawn from a set of 100 because that lets it cover more material without making the test really long and even more stressful, not because it's a Jim Crow literacy test where the examiner decides who passes.
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It can still be both, the White Australia Policy comes to mind where it required a dictation test in 'a European language', chosen by the test administrator, that could be English or could be Scottish Gaelic.
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Does Vivek plan on testing all of the retirement home boomers that the GOP busses to the polls? Because that could backfire. "Who is the current president?" "Definitely not that thief Joe Biden!"
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ummel posted:Does Vivek plan on testing all of the retirement home boomers that the GOP busses to the polls? Because that could backfire. "Who is the current president?" "Definitely not that thief Joe Biden!" no. its specifically a gently caress the kids these days policy, 18-25.
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Main Paineframe posted:A lot of people could fail a lot of these questions if they don't go out of their way to study for it. Some of them are absolute softballs (like "What is the name of the President of the United States now?"), but questions like "How many amendments does the Constitution have?" or "What is one promise you make when you become a United States citizen?" would probably throw your average American for a loop. The difficulty can vary widely depending on which questions get asked. Can confirm. High school teacher here. I give students this test when we talk about immigration in class. Some chudling will bring up the idea of immigrants should know our country if they live here. I have students shout out 10 random numbers and use those. In a class of 20 maybe 4 will pass with the minimum of 6 questions correct. Agreed with the comment above though that someone wanting to be a US citizen will have studied these questions beforehand. Students in high school just about to vote are woefully ignorant about pretty much everything about politics and the government. I was the same way when I was a teenager. Many of my students have strong opinions on Trump and Biden but cannot name a single policy or economic issue. “He made America great again!” “He sniffs children” is what I get unless their family discusses politics at home. Nash fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Aug 25, 2023 |
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Shooting in California restaurant A man walked into a Southern California bar and shot his soon-to-be ex-wife and several others, killing 3 and injuring 6, authorities say https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/23/us/orange-county-california-bar-shooting/index.html Curious how RWM is going to report on this since: A: Shooter was a former cop B. California C. Good guy with a gun
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California gun laws kept the other patrons from defending themselves.
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BiggerBoat posted:Shooting in California restaurant Reckon they'll find a way to blame the ex-wife.
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the_steve posted:Reckon they'll find a way to blame the ex-wife. Should have had her own gun, obviously
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FizFashizzle posted:California gun laws kept the other patrons from defending themselves. Yet they never look into why California's gun laws came to be. It's Ronald Reagan and racism.
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James Garfield posted:Right, the Vivek plan is obviously bad. But the test that was posted earlier is the citizenship test, not something Republicans wrote to prevent voting. It asks 10 questions drawn from a set of 100 because that lets it cover more material without making the test really long and even more stressful, not because it's a Jim Crow literacy test where the examiner decides who passes. Yes, but a president can change the citizenship test at any time. At the end of the Trump administration, the citizenship test was 20 questions drawn from a set of 128. It's 10 from 100 now because the Biden administration changed it back, saying that the Trump test was too difficult and likely to substantially reduce people's chances of becoming citizens.
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BiggerBoat posted:Shooting in California restaurant The conservative understanding of California has always seemed weird to me. There are probably more conservatives there than in most other states, and tons of cities that are as blood-red and insane as you’d find anywhere.
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I AM GRANDO posted:The conservative understanding of California has always seemed weird to me. There are probably more conservatives there than in most other states, and tons of cities that are as blood-red and insane as you’d find anywhere. They consider honesty, consistency and due diligence to be traps for suckers.
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One thing that is legitimately surprising about this primary cycle so far is that none of the Republicans have released any major tax cut plan (generally the best polling economic policy they have), but most of them are pushing plans to cut Social Security and Medicare. Even Trump and Haley, who have bounced around a lot on the issue and tried to be more moderate, are "against cuts" for Social Security, but in favor of raising the retirement age. https://twitter.com/HeartlandSignal/status/1694785545887449201 Part of it is that many of the candidates aren't releasing much policy at all. Pence is the only candidate with a platform on his website. DeSantis doesn't even have an issues page at all and his website is just a link to donate and a scroll of his Twitter embeds that looks like a free website made in 2008. https://rondesantis.com/ Trump is supposed to release his full economic plan soon, so maybe there will be more information in there.
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I'm down for this but only if we tie it to life expectancy based on demographics and zip code. Poor black person in Alabama? Enjoy your early retirement. Rich white person? You can collect social security when you're 90.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:
I'm sure Trump will get around to releasing his economic plan around the same time releases his Healthcare plan and taxes.
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KillHour posted:I'm down for this but only if we tie it to life expectancy based on demographics and zip code. Poor black person in Alabama? Enjoy your early retirement. Rich white person? You can collect social security when you're 90. They want to return Social Security to it's roots and make it only for white women
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I AM GRANDO posted:The conservative understanding of California has always seemed weird to me. There are probably more conservatives there than in most other states, and tons of cities that are as blood-red and insane as you’d find anywhere. Pretty sure republicans literally get more votes in California than any other state, because well, biggest state. Most states are like 60/40 blue/red or vice versa at most with a few outliers. They have no idea what living in a Democratic-controlled area is actually like. People maybe 20 minutes out of town or just in the richer neighbourhoods here seem genuinely baffled I haven’t been gunned down by radical BLM antifa gangs. And we’ve got it good compared to places like Portland. Our nutjobs cower in their swamps and suburbs and hug their guns rather than their favourite pastime being to descend upon the city to hold Nazi rallies and harass locals
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Amy's out on the beat hunting for some 6'3 215lb guys https://twitter.com/amyklobuchar/status/1695052478264258707
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The gentlelady from Minnesota will kindly refrain from being horny on main.
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Those guys can probably handle a stapler thrown at them better than a lanky intern, so you go hog wild lady!
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I've got it - we'll cut off Social Security to Republican olds since they don't want Big Government, and nobody over 45 is allowed to vote.Kalli posted:Amy's out on the beat hunting for some 6'3 215lb guys The swoletariat
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Byzantine posted:I've got it - we'll cut off Social Security to Republican olds since they don't want Big Government, and nobody over 45 is allowed to vote. Republican olds like social security and vote. The plan from DeSantis, Trump, and Haley (and previous Republican politicians) is to phase in the new retirement age for everyone under 50. It wouldn't change for anyone 51 or up. Every Republican politician is on board with that. Their Medicare plans are all over the place and not nearly universal.
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Who is lying about not eating Arby's? It's not me, but somebody has to be, because they have almost $10 billion to buy out Subway. Hopefully, we can finally end the senseless loss of life that the sandwich wars have taken from us over the last few decades. Who could have predicted that Arby's would stand over the corpses of Subway, Quizno's, Blimpies, Le Pain Quotidien, Potbelly Sandwich Shop, and Firehouse Subs to be the last remaining national sandwich chain? https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1694687282710585420 quote:Private equity firm Roark Capital agreed on Thursday to buy Subway, in a deal that people familiar with the matter said values the U.S. sandwich chain at up to $9.55 billion, including debt, subject to targets in its financial performance.
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Finally, I can get my meat mountain on a footlong instead of a hamburger bun.
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nerox posted:Finally, I can get my meat mountain on a footlong instead of a hamburger bun. Finally curly fries instead of a bag of chips.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Who is lying about not eating Arby's? It's not me, but somebody has to be, because they have almost $10 billion to buy out Subway. Without doing any study, most of the competing sandwich chains you mention are in business and some are doing well- Firehouse has more than a thousand outlets.
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Discendo Vox posted:Without doing any study, most of the competing sandwich chains you mention are in business and some are doing well- Firehouse has more than a thousand outlets. They are still in business, but they aren't a major player. Arby's has conquered all of their competitors. - Potbelly's is regional in the U.S. now. They were looking for someone to buy them out a few years ago. - Quizno's still exists, but 92% of the stores have closed. - Subway just got bought out. - Blimpies is down to less than 150 stores nationwide. - Le Pain Quotidien just declared bankruptcy last month. Arby's is the only major national fast food sandwich chain left. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Aug 25, 2023 |
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Le Pain Quotidien sounds like a JRPG boss name.
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Arby's wont stop until they have all the meats.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They are still in business, but they aren't a major player. Arby's has conquered all of their competitors. It wasn’t Taco Bell that won the wars, it was friggin’ ARBY’S????? God the future is bleak.
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Silly Burrito posted:It wasn’t Taco Bell that won the wars, it was friggin’ ARBY’S????? Demolition Man hosed up.
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Roark Capital owns all these fast food joints which is like 1/3 of the fast food landscape https://www.roarkcapital.com/portfolio I also find it funny they own both fast food restaurant and fitness centers. Give you the poison to sell your the cure... edit: they also already own schlotzsky's, jimmy johns, arby's and now subway. Truly the new sandwich mafia FCKGW fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Aug 25, 2023 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:Demolition Man hosed up. This is just the sandwich campaign, the Mexican front is quiet… for now also who won the franchise wars depends on which theatrical region you saw the movie in
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FCKGW posted:Roark Capital owns all these fast food joints which is like 1/3 of the fast food landscape
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haveblue posted:This is just the sandwich campaign, the Mexican front is quiet… for now Whoa seriously? Pretty cool.gimmick.tbh
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Failed Imagineer posted:Whoa seriously? Pretty cool.gimmick.tbh Burger King and McDonalds turned down the deal because R rated movie, but the only regional change I know of is in Europe it's Pizza Hut (also owned by the same company), though in the UK it's still Taco Bell. The TV cut of the movie ripped out all references to Taco Bell for no discernable reason.
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