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Rated PG-34 posted:how about also people were always right to question the vaccine and efficacy of lockdowns as the pandemic never suspended the question of capital. horseshit
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Aug 26, 2023 17:54
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Tulip posted:I do think an interesting wrinkle in this story is that "capitalism" wasn't a truly unified front on this. Different sectors had different opinions on lockdowns, and I remember reading a few articles from 2020 of leftists saying that the lockdowns were less about healthcare and were rather a pro capital conspiracy theory to depress in-person organizing and drive money toward online services. Quite a few capitalist orgs and institutions were quite open about their belief that disabling large numbers of workers was bad for them! A place where this felt particularly obvious was watching NYS government flip flop on a seemingly daily basis over things like WFH, it felt incredibly obvious that we were getting policy set by "was the last person who talked to the governor a finance guy, or a real estate guy." And yes those often overlap, but the specific interest in profiting off of rents vs profiting off of growing industries were in conflict on this one. That rents won was a political fight that I do not think was foregone by the boundary conditions of the universe, but instead the result of pro-rent actors being more organized and better placed in the specific situation the US exists in. That's true. I just think their overall point was "better things aren't possible." In other words, lib poo poo.
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Aug 26, 2023 18:03
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Rated PG-34 posted:how about also people were always right to question the vaccine and efficacy of lockdowns as the pandemic never suspended the question of capital. 
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Aug 26, 2023 18:04
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My wife tested negative today, 1 week after testing positive. I’m doing a bit better today, my gums are mostly back to normal and I haven’t had a fever yet today. Maybe things are turning around. Can my wife drop the mask now around our kids?
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Aug 26, 2023 18:12
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Rated PG-34 posted:how about also people were always right to question the vaccine and efficacy of lockdowns as the pandemic never suspended the question of capital.
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Aug 26, 2023 18:14
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Glumwheels posted:My wife tested negative today, 1 week after testing positive. I’m doing a bit better today, my gums are mostly back to normal and I haven’t had a fever yet today. Maybe things are turning around. are the kids sick? if not that's a lil dodgy, have her take another RAT like, now or whenever is convenient, and if that's also negative you could risk it, but IMO ten days and two negative tests is kinda the play
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Aug 26, 2023 18:20
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US CDC guidelines are quarantined (stay home) for 5 days and then isolated (masked around others) for 5 days or until you no longer have symptoms, whichever is longer if this round hit your kids already then gently caress it everyone mask off at home
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Aug 26, 2023 18:23
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bobtheconqueror posted:Anybody that says that the COVID vaccine is more dangerous than COVID, regardless of age, is either lying or incompetent, full stop.
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Aug 26, 2023 18:26
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hailthefish posted:public health definitionally requires giving half a dusty gently caress about other people and possibly even occasionally inconveniencing yourself to protect other people, who you may not even personally know!, from harm if you live your life you'll inevitably get into car accidents. I got into a minor car accident just last week and was totally fine! why do we even need any of these stupid laws. *accelerates aggressively to the next light 100ft down the road, mowing down flexposts* corona familiar has issued a correction as of 18:33 on Aug 26, 2023 |
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Aug 26, 2023 18:31
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except you’re not guaranteed to get Covid but you are guaranteed the vaccine with the mandates. never mind the disingenuous public messaging that the vaccines are perfectly safe (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 26, 2023 18:44
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Rated PG-34 posted:except you’re not guaranteed to get Covid but you are guaranteed the vaccine with the mandates. never mind the disingenuous public messaging that the vaccines are perfectly safe this is a really boring attempt at trolling
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Aug 26, 2023 18:46
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Gunshow Poophole posted:are the kids sick? Kids are not sick, they didn’t seem to get COVID as we’ve tested them a couple times now. My wife doesn’t have any symptoms now either but I guess she should wait 3 more days? I need to go find more tests, we are done with our stockpile. So glad Biden ended free tests and insurance won’t cover them anymore.
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Aug 26, 2023 18:46
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Tzen posted:https://twitter.com/MeetJess/status/1694883606122950843 so this is a great example of the COVID celebrity posting that needs to stop. the tweet implies a lot more than the story actually says she went to a Tay concert and was sick a couple of days later (which is lol yes), came back on air, and then went on vacation for awhile and still is on vacation. no one has said she isn't on vacation. the story hinges on that they haven't seen her post on Instagram about her vacation yet. is there the possibility of something else? sure. but the tweet implies covid (at best, long covid), they've been open about her prior bouts with covid (she got Al Roker iirc), and no one outside of twitter people who post covid celebrity gossip are saying it is
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Aug 26, 2023 18:49
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Rated PG-34 posted:except you’re not guaranteed to get Covid but you are guaranteed the vaccine with the mandates. never mind the disingenuous public messaging that the vaccines are perfectly safe an actual anti-vaxxer in the covid thread is that a first?
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Aug 26, 2023 18:55
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Rated PG-34 posted:except you’re not guaranteed to get Covid but you are guaranteed the vaccine with the mandates. never mind the disingenuous public messaging that the vaccines are perfectly safe ah yes the totally real vaccine mandate, lol not guarantied to get covid, lmao, we're all just staving off the inevitable as long as possible in this thread
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Aug 26, 2023 18:56
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The Oldest Man posted:an actual anti-vaxxer in the covid thread To be fair, they might just be on the JCVI.
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Aug 26, 2023 18:56
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Glumwheels posted:Kids are not sick, they didn’t seem to get COVID as we’ve tested them a couple times now. My wife doesn’t have any symptoms now either but I guess she should wait 3 more days? Two negative tests 72 hours apart rules out the scary scenarios that were done in that post-infection RAT/culturable virus agreement study last year. There are some, not lots, but definitely enough to care about it cases where someone tests negative and then a day or two later either still has some culturable virus (and is therefore at least somewhat infectious) despite continuing to get better or has a full-on rebound. The latter happened to my wife in the middle of the three weeks around day 12. She was negative for one day and felt a lot better, then took a turn and got sick for another week.
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Aug 26, 2023 18:57
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RandomBlue posted:ah yes the totally real vaccine mandate, lol don't threaten me with a good time
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Aug 26, 2023 18:58
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The Oldest Man posted:an actual anti-vaxxer in the covid thread it's happened a couple of times. usually generates amazing PMs
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Aug 26, 2023 18:59
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Zugzwang posted:What do antivaxxers think about the smallpox vaccine? Is this something they ever address? Anti-vaxxers live in my mental ignore list, but goddamn a smallpox pandemic would be a society-rending nightmare in our current state of the world.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:02
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fosborb posted:US CDC guidelines are quarantined (stay home) for 5 days and then isolated (masked around others) for 5 days or until you no longer have symptoms, whichever is longer I posted the study more or less confirming it earlier, but those guidelines are probably responsible for thousands of deaths from onward transmission at this point and you shouldn't trust them unless you're the CEO of a major airline. It's not the number of days since you got sick that you should care about, it's confirming yourself not infectious with serial testing.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:03
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Rated PG-34 posted:except you’re not guaranteed to get Covid but you are guaranteed the vaccine with the mandates. never mind the disingenuous public messaging that the vaccines are perfectly safe I was hoping to hear a truly creative leftist/anticapitalist argument against vaccination but this is some tepid poo poo.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:03
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eXXon posted:I was hoping to hear a truly creative leftist/anticapitalist argument against vaccination but this is some tepid poo poo. poking me with a needle violates the nap
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Aug 26, 2023 19:05
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That’s the lame thing about anti-vaxxers, 99.999% they’re just parroting stupid poo poo they heard from a lovely right wing astroturf movement, if you’re looking for real wingnut opinions it’s probably not going to happen. Even my Claremont Institute freak in-laws got their mRNA vaccines about as fast as I did
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Aug 26, 2023 19:08
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Rated PG-34 posted:except you’re not guaranteed to get Covid but you are guaranteed the vaccine with the mandates. never mind the disingenuous public messaging that the vaccines are perfectly safe in hindsight it was pretty messed up that the smallpox vaccine used to be mandated. It's not like you were guaranteed to get smallpox. And the vaccine had a distinct chance of loving you up!
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Aug 26, 2023 19:23
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U-DO Burger posted:in hindsight it was pretty messed up that the smallpox vaccine used to be mandated. It's not like you were guaranteed to get smallpox. And the vaccine had a distinct chance of loving you up! Vaccination mandate? But I thought you said variolation mandate!
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Aug 26, 2023 19:25
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My buddy’s dad got absolutely rocked by the smallpox vaccine when he was mandated to get it as a Naval officer. Vaccine injuries are real, but the worst people ever wave them around to support their bullshit points.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:36
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Hot off the presses- Yale Medicine’s study on using paxlovid to treat people with PASC is open and accepting patients in a surprisingly broad number of states. https://medicine.yale.edu/cii/research/paxlc-study/
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Aug 26, 2023 19:47
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Antivaxxer shithead needs more days.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:48
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why do you love vaccines at this point? it was an enormous bait and switch. the mRNA tech improved nothing, caused all sorts of anti vax sentiment, and we shitcanned things like novavax because politicians wanted their Pfizer stock to go up (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 26, 2023 19:51
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nexous posted:why do you love vaccines at this point? it was an enormous bait and switch. the mRNA tech improved nothing, caused all sorts of anti vax sentiment, and we shitcanned things like novavax because politicians wanted their Pfizer stock to go up Come on man.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:54
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nexous posted:why do you love vaccines at this point? it was an enormous bait and switch. the mRNA tech improved nothing, caused all sorts of anti vax sentiment, and we shitcanned things like novavax because politicians wanted their Pfizer stock to go up sometimes the person at the pharmacy doing the injections is a cute girl
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Aug 26, 2023 19:54
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nexous posted:why do you love vaccines at this point? it was an enormous bait and switch. the mRNA tech improved nothing, caused all sorts of anti vax sentiment, and we shitcanned things like novavax because politicians wanted their Pfizer stock to go up well fewer people die when they take it so that's pretty nice
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Aug 26, 2023 19:55
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please help, friends. hosting a baby shower for my wife’s coworker. she ate lunch yesterday with someone who tested positive this morning. trying to figure out whether my wife could be contagious already tonight. going to tell everyone regardless, but trying to decide if we need to cancel preemptively or just let folks decide. no one she works with wears a mask anyway we can do three rapids too blue squares has issued a correction as of 19:58 on Aug 26, 2023 |
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Aug 26, 2023 19:56
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nexous posted:why do you love vaccines at this point? it was an enormous bait and switch. the mRNA tech improved nothing, caused all sorts of anti vax sentiment, and we shitcanned things like novavax because politicians wanted their Pfizer stock to go up I mean, a) getting the mrna tech off the ground has enabled some pretty cool stuff like HIV vaccine candidates and even if the industry and regulatory apparatus is dead set on loving it up right now, it's a very worthwhile technology, and b) it didn't cause poo poo, garbage public health policy and a general slide into late capitalism institutional decrepitude are causing antivax sentiment. Plus the whole "probably saved like a million lives give or take" thing.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:57
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Not really gonna get into it cause I promised myself I’d spend most of my day thinking about robot carnage playing Armored Core 6 instead of COVID, but the mRNA vaccines prevented an absolutely insane amount of hospitalizations and deaths. We should be getting them to more countries, and should have done so 3 years ago. I can’t make decisions for politicians, but I can and did make mRNA vaccine tech better, like being stable at room temperature. “We have the tools” (but we don’t use them because of rich assholes) is the central thesis of this thread.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:57
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A million people who are still alive is a a good thing imo, pretty hot takes coming out here
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Aug 26, 2023 19:58
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nexous posted:why do you love vaccines at this point? it was an enormous bait and switch. the mRNA tech improved nothing, caused all sorts of anti vax sentiment, and we shitcanned things like novavax because politicians wanted their Pfizer stock to go up pretending the vaccines haven't helped at all is loving deranged
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Aug 26, 2023 19:58
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Not blaming the electrostatic filtering textile guys for public health fuckups and failures to deploy their work right either you know
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Aug 26, 2023 19:59
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nexous posted:why do you love vaccines at this point? it was an enormous bait and switch. the mRNA tech improved nothing, caused all sorts of anti vax sentiment, and we shitcanned things like novavax because politicians wanted their Pfizer stock to go up Novavax wasn't shitcanned, it's supposed to become available next month along with pfizer/moderna. blue squares posted:please help, friends. hosting a baby shower for my wife’s coworker. she ate lunch yesterday with someone who tested positive this morning. trying to figure out whether my wife could be contagious already tonight. going to tell everyone regardless, but trying to decide if we need to cancel preemptively or just let folks decide. no one she works with wears a mask anyway I would personally not risk infecting anyone if I thought I had been exposed, let alone someone expecting.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:59
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