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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Well, it's hard to say how much of the improvement came from flipping the unducted fans and how much came from increasing the RPM of the ducted ones. It's an interesting project, though you can get similar results by just using one of the "brute force" cases he mentioned with good airflow from the start.  green in intake, red is exhaust, orange are the obvious problems. with the top exhaust located centrally all it's really doing is grabbing the cool air as it goes in and creating a hot pocket in the top-left part of the machine. that the funnel helped there isn't shocking he just forced one of the short-circuits to be blocked. the gpu funnel forces the other short-circuit to exhaust out of the front-intake (now an exhaust), and really makes sure the short-circuit in the top-right area is impossible. the funnel in the top-left is the best if only because he lacks a dedicated rear exhaust fan, having a funnel force the cpu cooler to do it properly helps with air pressure so no surprise he feels that working better now now the concerning part i see in all of this is he did all of this then.. leaves the top-left and bottom-right fans recirculate hot air back into the case which he only realised when testing. that tells me for all of his 3d modeling he never really thought about the system as a whole but was blinded about the per-component cooling plan. checking the gpu and cpu off of overall temp levels is alright, but what about the other components in that case if i were to do this from scratch i've been moving the top-exhaust fans all the way left before even mapping out anything else. also hesitant to see that bottom fan doing anything productive, i vaguely recall GN looking into it but i don't remember their analysis off-hand. all i see with this design is turbulence everywhere, which does raise the question about all those hard corners in the funnels and noise profiles but that's beyond the scope of his video
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Harminoff posted:What other channels besides LGR is everyone watching for weird old tech? Really enjoy him and Michael MJD CuriousMarc is great for this. Rebuilding entire devices by studying the electrical diagram and reverse engineering the rest.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Yeah, that's the reason he's given for disabling the comments on all nextlander videos. The crew knows that it would be better for algorithm optimization to leave the comments on, but they decided that it's just not worth sacrificing their mental health to deal with the comments, even if it means sacrificing some channel growth. I respect it. To be fair, Alex’s “LOUD=FUNNY!!!!” shtick deserves all the negative comments it can get.
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I believe a bottom fan can help GPU temps in an otherwise air constrained system, but in a case like that it's not doing a huge amount I expect.
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MrQwerty posted:god, the drug factory I used to work at had a box at Isotopes Stadium with the stipulation that if you drank alcohol at a baseball game on one of your days off from spending 12 hours in a cleanroom, you would be terminated on sight. I would be pissed even if I loved baseball (I like watching the occasional game, but I wouldn't say I was a big fan), just because my time is my time and I'm gonna spend it however the hell I want. The workplace gets enough out of us as it is. The people who decide that employees should go on "team building" exercises or to mandatory fun socializing events that take place outside of working hours should have their own particular circle in Hell, as far as I'm concerned.
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The bottom fan blowing up straight at the GPU, that's a nice idea.
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I feel like he's reinventing all the arguments from the mid 2000s from before people realized one 80mm intake and one 80mm exhaust just wasn't enough. Pretty much every performance oriented case mod involved ducting air directly into components.
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Triikan posted:I feel like he's reinventing all the arguments from the mid 2000s from before people realized one 80mm intake and one 80mm exhaust just wasn't enough. Pretty much every performance oriented case mod involved ducting air directly into components. And if you've seen GN's teardowns of Alienware PCs, they're still using the idea because with how constrained the case is forcing air to where it needs to be is basically all they can do.
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Triikan posted:I feel like he's reinventing all the arguments from the mid 2000s from before people realized one 80mm intake and one 80mm exhaust just wasn't enough. Pretty much every performance oriented case mod involved ducting air directly into components.
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I like Tech Tangents https://www.youtube.com/@TechTangents. Lotsa stuff from the 70s/80s
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Theres one extremely effective cooling technique for gpus that used to be popular in cases but they stopped doing it a number of years ago for various reasons. Its a big cutout inthe side panel with a fan on it.
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Wild EEPROM posted:Theres one extremely effective cooling technique for gpus that used to be popular in cases but they stopped doing it a number of years ago for various reasons. I've lost track of the number of times I busted out my hole saw and a file for a side panel fan between 2000 and 2011 for myself and friends.
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With how popular vertical GPU mounts are I’m surprised there aren’t some cases that do that again.
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Wild EEPROM posted:Theres one extremely effective cooling technique for gpus that used to be popular in cases but they stopped doing it a number of years ago for various reasons. Everything has to be tempered glass now and cutting nice holes in glass is expensive hobbesmaster posted:With how popular vertical GPU mounts are I’m surprised there aren’t some cases that do that again. https://ssupd.co/products/new-meshroom-s e: It may have been the Meshilicious of the same company. They both seem to do that and I'm not sure what the differences are. https://ssupd.co/products/meshlicious SpartanIvy fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Aug 27, 2023 |
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SpartanIvy posted:Everything has to be tempered glass now and cutting nice holes in glass is expensive I have the Meshlicious by that same company and it is pretty great, though I have it hooked up to an external radiator. The GPU hangs vertically in this case, too. The entire case being mesh really helps with airflow. Though, since my build is water cooled, I'm tempted to buy glass side panels just to show off the RGB.
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SpartanIvy posted:
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I will say that those cases benefit very heavily from custom cabling so that you can shorten all the cable runs so that they don't get in the way of air flow or even just fan placement. There really is not much room in there. Also, if you install a long GPU in the Meshlicious or the Meshroom S, you will need a right-angle video out cable or taller feet to avoid a severe bend in that cable.
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We love pizza parties, don't we folks?
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When I was 12 there was nothing that excited me more!
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For some years I worked an office job where a Costco membership recruiter would come by once a year and fish for new members / renewals. When he showed up it was always with bulk packs of cookies and soda, as well as 6+ pipin' hot pizzas. I talked with him about the gig once and apparently it was the greatest job ever by his measure - every day he went to a different office where he was treated as a returning king, because everybody everywhere secretly wants a surprise pizza party.
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DoombatINC posted:For some years I worked an office job where a Costco membership recruiter would come by once a year and fish for new members / renewals. When he showed up it was always with bulk packs of cookies and soda, as well as 6+ pipin' hot pizzas. I talked with him about the gig once and apparently it was the greatest job ever by his measure - every day he went to a different office where he was treated as a returning king, because everybody everywhere secretly wants a surprise pizza party. That's how I signed up for my Costco card so I guess the system works
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DoombatINC posted:For some years I worked an office job where a Costco membership recruiter would come by once a year and fish for new members / renewals. When he showed up it was always with bulk packs of cookies and soda, as well as 6+ pipin' hot pizzas. I talked with him about the gig once and apparently it was the greatest job ever by his measure - every day he went to a different office where he was treated as a returning king, because everybody everywhere secretly wants a surprise pizza party. Pizza party provided by management instead of better pay and benefits? Lame, bad, uncool. Costco guy showing up and giving you a surprise pizza party wanting you to sign up for a membership with no obligation to do so but if you do the store is pretty good? Awesome, good, very cool.
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Was LGR the guy who also reviewed The Sims games but also stated he’s not going to anymore because he’s completely disillusioned with the series? I remember watching a vid from some YouTuber about that and it was sad because there wasn’t any hint of anger I remember feeling, just resignation and disappointment. Really hoping Paradox’s Sims clone js good enough to be a viable alternative to a series gone stagnant, or enough of a threat to make EA consider trying harder.
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buglord posted:Really hoping Paradox’s Sims clone js good enough to be a viable alternative to a series gone stagnant, or enough of a threat to make EA consider trying harder. Considering how Paradox handles DLC, I'm not sure we'll see much difference. A different take on the overall mechanics, but it'll be the same DLC scamming bullshit.
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buglord posted:Was LGR the guy who also reviewed The Sims games but also stated he’s not going to anymore because he’s completely disillusioned with the series? I remember watching a vid from some YouTuber about that and it was sad because there wasn’t any hint of anger I remember feeling, just resignation and disappointment. That's the guy, yeah. For what it's worth: The Sims stuff represents a lot of his most popular videos, but his best work has nothing to do with it.
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SpartanIvy posted:That's how I signed up for my Costco card so I guess the system works Same, I was going to join regardless but the extra coupons didn't hurt
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Pigma_Micron posted:That's the guy, yeah. He also has occasionally reviewed some of the recent expansions but ends each one sounding more defeated by a series he once loved than before.
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Khablam posted:The LTT sub is also firmly of the opinion that Linus has schooled the hate brigade with facts and figures. I just took a look at the LTT sub (in regards to their response about Linus' video), and I'd go so far as to say that sub really enjoys the taste of Linus'
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Harminoff posted:What other channels besides LGR is everyone watching for weird old tech? Really enjoy him and Michael MJD Discovered this guy recently, he does some really retro stuff like Altair 2 and also some really neat tech stories like the harddrive company that shipped out bricks. https://www.youtube.com/@TechTimeTraveller Tech Tangents is another good one, mostly like this guy because he looks like a stoner pizza delivery guy from an '80s comedy but can reverse engineer ISA controller cards for first gen CD-ROM drives. https://www.youtube.com/@TechTangents
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other retro tech youtubers that don't suck: 8 bit show and tell (lots of Commodore and BASIC programming) https://www.youtube.com/@8_Bit Action Retro (doing terrifying things to old Macs) https://www.youtube.com/@ActionRetro Adrian's Digital Basement (just good overall stuff mostly focusing on board-level repairs, has two channels which both receive weekly videos) https://www.youtube.com/@adriansdigitalbasement https://www.youtube.com/@adriansdigitalbasement2 Dave's Garage (former microsoft engineer, talks a lot about coding and system optimizations) https://www.youtube.com/@DavesGarage Jan Beta (more repairs) https://www.youtube.com/@JanBeta Mac84 (good macintosh stuff) https://www.youtube.com/@Mac84 Macintosh Librarian (cute/fun macintosh stuff) https://www.youtube.com/@MacintoshLibrarian Mark Fixes Stuff (fun repairs) https://www.youtube.com/@MarkFixesStuff Mr Lurch (australian fixes stuff) https://www.youtube.com/@MrLurchsThings NCommander (software preservation, big linux nerd kind of stuff) https://www.youtube.com/@NCommander Necroware (x86 repairs, refits, lots of very interesting very precise hacking no one else really does) https://www.youtube.com/@necro_ware Noel's Retro Lab (more fun repairs) https://www.youtube.com/@NoelsRetroLab PixelPipes (retro GPUs) https://www.youtube.com/@PixelPipes Retro Hack Shack (repairs/retrospectives) https://www.youtube.com/@RetroHackShack RetroBytes (very good computer history/retro documentary stuff) https://www.youtube.com/@RetroBytesUK RMC - The Cave (formerly called RetroManCave, runs a retro tech museum) https://www.youtube.com/@RMCRetro Sharopolis (digging into the extremes of console gaming capabilities) https://www.youtube.com/@Sharopolis Usagi Electric (repairing and using microcomputers, old terminals, vacuum tube computers) https://www.youtube.com/@UsagiElectric VWestlife (computers and electronics) https://www.youtube.com/@vwestlife VSwitchZero (x86 repairs and retrospectives) https://www.youtube.com/@vswitchzero okay, i tried not to double up on anyone else mentioned already in the channel but i hit some big names that seemed missing so i might have accidentally doubled-up anyway! all of these people are quality and not chuddy to my knowledge. good fun watches. Arivia fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Aug 27, 2023 |
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Hellequin posted:Tech Tangents is another good one, mostly like this guy because he looks like a stoner pizza delivery guy from an '80s comedy but can reverse engineer ISA controller cards for first gen CD-ROM drives. from one of this guy's videos  the part that you attach the motherboard to as a removable tray. that's really neat.
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Rinkles posted:from one of this guy's videos The all aluminum Lian Li PC cases from the mid 2000s to around 2015 or so did this too. It was so easy to build PCs in those cases. Here's a PC-v352 case which I had and still regret getting rid of. 
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I also like watching Posy's videos and hearing his Dutch accent. Kind of an eclectic collection of videos. I think I found out about him in this thread a while back and figured I'd post him again in case he gets missed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTB5XhjbgZA Unperson_47 fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Aug 27, 2023 |
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SpartanIvy posted:Everything has to be tempered glass now and cutting nice holes in glass is expensive My Torrent has giant tempered glass side panels and I'll have you know it's as cool as a cucumber, thank you very much!
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SpartanIvy posted:The all aluminum Lian Li PC cases from the mid 2000s to around 2015 or so did this too. It was so easy to build PCs in those cases. https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/cases/haf-xb-evo/ I keep wishing that CoolerMaster would make an update to this case I'd love to use it as a media Pc.
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Unperson_47 posted:I also like watching Posy's videos and hearing his Dutch accent. Kind of an eclectic collection of videos. I think I found out about him in this thread a while back and figured I'd post him again in case he gets missed. Stumbled onto his channel one day and just adored every video he made. It's just so unapologetically nostalgic and nerdy and creative. It's so relaxing.
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