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With each year my hunger for another EDF growns. Is there any EDF game in the Xbox?, I saw EDF 2025. That looks great, but is like EDF4 that I have played to death. Any game like EDF? Most of all, I want to call a airstrike 25 stadiums large and laught maniacally while the sky turns red and the entire horizont is a line of fire.
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Tei posted:Any game like EDF? If your cpu is strong enough to run it, there's
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Tei posted:With each year my hunger for another EDF growns. With 4.1 they just did a final fantasy and reverted to the original numbering everywhere. If edf 1 and 2 had used the usa naming convention they would have been edf2017 (again) and edf2019. In the eu they were called 'monster attack' and 'global defence force'. Idk what kinda xbox you got, but on 360 you got 2017 which is ranger only and insect armageddon which is the first try at a 'western edf' thats kinda mixed. Id recomend iron rain for that kinda thing, but IA and IR have kinda similar issues (too concerned with 'polish', campaign peters out) but IR is a bit more ambitious imo. World brothers also exists and is like iron rain but they gave up on aiming for a western audience and went with minecraft graphics and casual racism. Going backwards in this series is kinda tough because they keep improving stuff. If you wanna play 1 or 2 your out of luck on xbox completely. altho theres really no reason to play 1at all outside of like curiosity, you can see the older enemy and map designs in 2 and 3 is just a better edf 1. 2 has some unique stuff that worth seeing. Im still pissed we never got that switch port and personaly i think the vita version was a bit garbo And yeah if you wanna air raid you gotta stick with 4 onwards im afraid. Insect Armageddon has the 'tactical armour' which feels like the first swing at a edf support class but it took a real sandlot edf game to go from 'specialises in turrets' to 'kills every other olayer in coop at once with cruise missiles'.
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Insect Armageddon was my first experience with EDF and as much as it might have issues it got me wanting more real bad.
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Night10194 posted:Insect Armageddon was my first experience with EDF and as much as it might have issues it got me wanting more real bad. It and iron rain are perfevtly fun and competent 3rd person co op shooters they just lack a bit of that real edf magic imo. I even recomend iron rain for people who wanna get into playing wing diver as the jet lifter can help you get into the movement without overwhelming with the energy system and some of the wackier weapon types. Flying around with fencer swords in iron rain was good fun. Edit: i also approve of rolling ranger/air raider into one so thexair raider can defend themselves with actuak guns and the ranger can have fun poo poo again but i think air raider players tended to disagre. Never got into the prowl rider but the attack on titan zipwire class feels like something sandlot could have elaborated on very well like they did with the new classes in IA. Mr Phillby fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Aug 27, 2023 |
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Aug 27, 2023 14:53
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The fun of Ranger is single-handedly carrying all of the other classes, each with their different flavors of gimmicky bullshit, all on your back with your simple and always-effective BIG DAMAGE. Also they do get Air Raider's turrets for their grenade/tool slot in 6.
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Aug 27, 2023 15:03
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One of the issues with IA is that it's winking at the camera when EDF's charm has been your commander giving a fiery speech and ending with yelling SO STICK IT TO THEM without a hint of irony.
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Mr Phillby posted:It and iron rain are perfevtly fun and competent 3rd person co op shooters they just lack a bit of that real edf magic imo. I really, really like Prowl Rider. The grapple gun felt extremely good to use and made you insanely mobile. Also just being able to whip out a bug to ride around on and fight other bugs with was hilarious, even if they didn't scale at all well into the end game.
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Unless you want to play the original in Japanese, half of Monster Attack got cut in Europe, because they didn't bother including the mission audio that makes it sound like you are not the only soldier left in the world. Imagine an EDF with no hysterical women talking about flying eggs, no Professor exalting the superiority of science, no Brofessor wanting a better life, no thunder.
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so what you're saying is goon project EDF fandub?
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Scalding Coffee posted:Unless you want to play the original in Japanese, half of Monster Attack got cut in Europe, because they didn't bother including the mission audio that makes it sound like you are not the only soldier left in the world. Imagine an EDF with no hysterical women talking about flying eggs, no Professor exalting the superiority of science, no Brofessor wanting a better life, no thunder. Yeah Global defence force has the same issue too. Theres points where missions will just end without warning. I still think playing GDF is better than not playing EDF2 at all. That may just be me the guy who loves edf2 a lot tho. Finding that game even existed after playing 2017 to death was amazing, it cannot be exagerated how much 2 felt like a sequel to 3 even with the less powerful hardware. Invaders from panet space is such a shame to me, we got a proper localization but the tone was way too winking and silly and its lineage as a port of a port meant it had worse draw distance than the ps2 version despite running on vita.
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lets hang out posted:Also they do get Air Raider's turrets for their grenade/tool slot in 6. Shame we will never get to play it
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Night10194 posted:One of the issues with IA is that it's winking at the camera when EDF's charm has been your commander giving a fiery speech and ending with yelling SO STICK IT TO THEM without a hint of irony. The other issue is that the ending loving sucks. Spoilers for the ending of course: It literally ends with the mothership descending and then you don't fight it!
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Night10194 posted:One of the issues with IA is that it's winking at the camera when EDF's charm has been your commander giving a fiery speech and ending with yelling SO STICK IT TO THEM without a hint of irony. Exactly. EDF is extremely silly, but nobody in the game thinks they are being silly. EDF5's presentation is more deadpan than 4.1's, which just makes it funnier when everybody agrees that the alien infantry look almost identical to humans. One head, two eyes, with hands and feet—bipedal. The resemblance is... unbelievable.
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What surprised me about EDF5 was how much camaraderie I felt with the radio VO's and the other soldiers on the field. They are so earnest.
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Quote-Unquote posted:The song in EDF5 is poo poo though. I really can't see the difference in quality between 4.1 and 5, except WDs get to sing in 5, so it's already way better.
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Shine posted:Exactly. EDF is extremely silly, but nobody in the game thinks they are being silly. Everyone loves the "two hands, two feet, just like us" joke about the frogs, but that joke's even funnier punchline is like 40 stages later when the cosmonauts show up and are literally just standard alien greys but all the NPC chatter reacts with disgust at these completely weird alien freaks.
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Aug 28, 2023 12:29
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Frogs don't exist in their universe.
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Kanos posted:Everyone loves the "two hands, two feet, just like us" joke about the frogs, but that joke's even funnier punchline is like 40 stages later when the cosmonauts show up and are literally just standard alien greys but all the NPC chatter reacts with disgust at these completely weird alien freaks. Internet rumor mill from a while back (see: internet comment I took to heart) said that the lines about them looking just like us were supposed to be for the greys, but they got used in the frog intro level instead. I haven't played EDF5 in Japanese and have no clue if this is true, but I wanna believe D3P EN has at least one incredibly funny person on the team.
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This thread gets my hopes up for EDF6 news constantly  stop hurting me
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I, Butthole posted:This thread gets my hopes up for EDF6 news constantly Same. I might just start up EDF5 again because I only played Ranger (and got stuck trying to solo Inferno).
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Blattdorf posted:Same. I might just start up EDF5 again because I only played Ranger (and got stuck trying to solo Inferno). Air Raider is so much stronger in 5 than in 4.1 it's absurd
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well this is good timing, seeing this thread. Just started playing EDF5 after grabbing it last steam sale and it absolutely rules. I'm loving air raider because calling in airstrikes is the best. I'm pretty solid on ranger as well, I learned about shotguns early, but I gotta admit, wing diver and fencer weapons are making me go ??? so if anyone has some favorite weapons for those classes, please post your faves. Right now my wing diver go-tos are phalanx, plasma big cannon and/or a dragoon lance? or something? and gleipnir when I feel like being silly. For fencer, jackhammer/dexter and then ??? in slots 3/4. mobility for fencer is killing me, despite a lot of mashing dashjump. Gallic cannons and the dispersal mortar haven't clicked yet but they feel like they COULD be awesome.
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Psion posted:well this is good timing, seeing this thread. I recall thunder bows being the most reliable weapon for WDs, the rapier line is great if you can close the distance and you're not getting surrounded too badly. Usually, in single, I would take a plasma cannon and bow to handle swarms and tough targets. In multi I basically always took a rapier though, as I considered myself to be emergency close-range support if someone got in trouble.
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early on, fencer is pure pain. you don't get enough dashes for decent mobility, most of the cc weapons are far too slow and unwieldy for how much damage they do, and the long range weapons have enormous recoil. they eventually become powerful and fun to play, but it takes some time. one small tip is that the high recoil on the heavy cannons can be mitigated by using two of the same gun and alternating shots. once you get the hang of it you can do a lot of damage at long range. you have to be on the ball about switching back to your other weapon set when being attacked, though!
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I love using Blast Twin Spears and Dexter for Fencer. Mostly because they push you so you are always moving and for when you run out of dash and getting stunslapped. Dexter is a little underwhelming, but it kills flyers well enough and since I am moving all the time, closing the gap only makes it stronger. Fencer is terrible at the start. It wasn't dire like in 4.1, but I want mobility with any weapon.
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Psion posted:well this is good timing, seeing this thread. Stardust Cannons are powerful but dangerous. Thunder Bows and Lightning Crossbows are usually solid. Blink Balls are better than they might seem at first. Gallics are one of Fencer's best ranged weapons. NC Hand Cannons are also excellent. Dispersal Mortar pairs really well with a Blasthole Spear or Blast Twin Spears, and Flame Revolvers are another good match for the Jackhammer. Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Aug 28, 2023 |
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Laser chainsaw is a lot of fun against frogs Stardust cannon is so fun. It shreds at close range, and is a crowd clarer at mid range especially against fliers. You will boost sideways while charging, unload point blank into a lampost and die pretty regularly but wing diver is already a glass cannon why not go all in?
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feels like this thread should see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLB2KnAVli4
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Psion posted:well this is good timing, seeing this thread. when you get the blood storm as fencer equip 2 of them to your secondary loadout, don't take them off for as long as you can manage
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Light Gun Man posted:feels like this thread should see this EDF x AC is exactly my bullshit Drilldick Bot and Burger Bot are clear winners but I'm very much a fan of the robot that is just three commuter trains stacked on each other, or the tank with treads on legs.
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I thought it was a remake of a Simple Series title.
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