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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Imagine batfleck fighting jim carrey riddler,just shooting henchman and crippling dudes left and right. He definitely would not sanction Riddler's buffoonery for even a second.
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Except for maybe Batman 66, every Batman cripples countless people.
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Aug 27, 2023 15:33
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Invalid Validation posted:Except for maybe Batman 66, every Batman cripples countless people. Batman 66 killed the rehydrated goons. Dini/Timm Batman uses cartoon logic so he hasn't, at least.
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Aug 27, 2023 15:37
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Darko posted:Batman 66 killed the rehydrated goons. I'm sure there are plenty of other instances in the show where he punches a goon and they fly into the shark pit/giant mousetrap.
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Aug 27, 2023 15:48
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Darko posted:Batman 66 killed the rehydrated goons. lol DCAU Batman absolutely killed a ton of people with the barest plausible deniability April Moon
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Aug 27, 2023 15:53
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My Batman peacefully subdues all of the henchmen who come after him with dual machetes.
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Aug 27, 2023 18:15
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Someone should do something about that dastardly Batman who keeps putting people on disability and taking tax money from the hard working Americans.
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Aug 27, 2023 18:26
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I wonder how many times the WB execs discussed if it would be feasible to replace Ezra Miller with an digitally de-aged Justin Long.
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Aug 27, 2023 20:27
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lol wait this is the last shot of the movie? https://twitter.com/artwithinpod/status/1695441873416892617 Holy poo poo the CGI is so bad.
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Aug 27, 2023 21:36
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Codependent Poster posted:lol wait this is the last shot of the movie? This is relatively tame compared to... Everything. Spots in the chase sequence made me throw up in my mouth a little. "Looks like something from 25 years ago," as above, is high-end for this movie.
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Aug 27, 2023 21:47
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Stuff from 25 years ago tends to look really good, actually. 1998-2008 generally has pretty solid effects for the bigger stuff.
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Aug 27, 2023 21:49
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feedmyleg posted:Stuff from 25 years ago tends to look really good, actually. 1998-2008 generally has pretty solid effects for the bigger stuff. ehhh, that's the period when CGI became ubiquitous and used for everything even when it wasn't up to it it's the time of star wars prequels and mummy sequels and loving van helsing
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Aug 27, 2023 21:56
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Okay maybe I've got selective memory. I was thinking of it being more of the "we can afford only 150 CGI shots so we have to be careful about how we integrate them" era, but maybe that was more like '95-2000.
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Aug 27, 2023 22:04
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feedmyleg posted:Okay maybe I've got selective memory. I was thinking of it being more of the "we can afford only 150 CGI shots so we have to be careful about how we integrate them" era, but maybe that was more like '95-2000. Terminator 2, in 1991, had only 42 CGI shots. Depending on who you ask, the original Jurassic Park, from 1993, has anywhere from 50 to 63 CGI shots.
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Aug 27, 2023 22:10
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Codependent Poster posted:lol wait this is the last shot of the movie? According to the director, it's supposed to look bad. We're seeing it from the Flash's point of view. Even when the shot is directly on the Flash. In a way, it means we're ALL the Flash. Think about that for a moment. Whoa.
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Aug 27, 2023 22:14
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Bogus Adventure posted:According to the director, it's supposed to look bad. We're seeing it from the Flash's point of view. Even when the shot is directly on the Flash. In a way, it means we're ALL the Flash. But I'm not even beating up any Hawaiian tourists!
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Aug 27, 2023 22:19
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I know everyone shits on SPAWN quite rightly for bad cgi but some of the violator fight stuff looks great even now. https://youtu.be/n5i6yEtVneU?si=PlbKBqFpI1oXwNup Wait i was wrong lol
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Aug 27, 2023 22:58
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TIP posted:ehhh, that's the period when CGI became ubiquitous and used for everything even when it wasn't up to it My fave examples of bad looking CGI "because the tech was too premature for what they wanted to do" remain the first Spider-Man and Harry Potter installments - specifically the rooftop run (Peter's run, jump, and landing look so fake and without actual physics involved) and the bathroom troll fight (it's so obviously a CG model Harry faux-flailing on top of the creature and the textures give it away even worse when the very next cut is back to Radcliffe on the floor.)
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Aug 27, 2023 23:03
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Grendels Dad posted:But I'm not even beating up any Hawaiian tourists! Then you might want to do a sniff check. If you're Ezra, you're either beating up Hawaiian tourists or reeking of cigarettes and BO.
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Aug 27, 2023 23:07
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why can't movies get super speed right. and showing everything in slow-mo is the boring style of it
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Agent Escalus posted:My fave examples of bad looking CGI "because the tech was too premature for what they wanted to do" remain the first Spider-Man and Harry Potter installments - specifically the rooftop run (Peter's run, jump, and landing look so fake and without actual physics involved) and the bathroom troll fight (it's so obviously a CG model Harry faux-flailing on top of the creature and the textures give it away even worse when the very next cut is back to Radcliffe on the floor.) The last scene of Spider-Man 2 has some really brutal CGI. The helicopters look like rubber toys.
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Aug 28, 2023 01:03
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The fight in front of the lights in Blade 2 was memorably bad and I'm fairly sure it was all CGI.
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Aug 28, 2023 01:15
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You’re remembering wrong. There was a few good examples like Jurassic Park. CGI is best to enhance practical effects and a director with enough power, money, and desire to make it look good. You look at Guardians 3 and it all looks pretty good and then you have Ant Man and it all looks like trash. I’m sure forcing CGI studios to become sweatshops hasn’t helped much either.
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Aug 28, 2023 01:27
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The weirdest thing about the special effects in The Flash is how they would still CG Barry in dialogue scenes when there was only one Barry on screen.GateOfD posted:why can't movies get super speed right. I'm very curious as to what super speed actually looks like.
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Aug 28, 2023 01:53
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Ant man 3 made me feel like I'm staring at the interior of an anthill where all the ants have already died
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Aug 28, 2023 01:58
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It was just CGI nonsense without any art direction. It’s a shame because the first two were pretty good.
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Invalid Validation posted:It was just CGI nonsense without any art direction. It’s a shame because the first two were pretty good. Didn't feel like a coincidence that the director did some episodes of The Mandalorian cause it felt like he had crammed Ant-Man into a Star Wars movie.
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Aug 28, 2023 02:06
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Ant man 3 made me feel like I'm staring at the interior of an anthill where all the ants have already died Lmao jesus
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One More Fat Nerd posted:The fight in front of the lights in Blade 2 was memorably bad and I'm fairly sure it was all CGI. IIRC it's mostly real until it very suddenly, and jarringly, isn't. And it's funny as hell Fake edit: yeah so a handful of the stunts are done with cgi but then in this clip at the two minute mark, they both change to CGI and it's worse than I remembered lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA0Ch2_2o7I
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Aug 28, 2023 02:53
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The CGI parts of that scene look terrible, and there's really no need to CGI 2002 era Snipes. I'm glad it came out so bad and was ridiculed, stemming the tide of whatever you'd call that.
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Aug 28, 2023 03:35
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well why not posted:The CGI parts of that scene look terrible, and there's really no need to CGI 2002 era Snipes. I'm glad it came out so bad and was ridiculed, stemming the tide of whatever you'd call that. Even Del Toro admits on the DVD commentary that the tech for digital doubles (which are used in three scenes: The opening fight when Blade leaps off the balcony, the above-linked warehouse fight and the final fight with Nomak) was just not there at the time.
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Aug 28, 2023 03:42
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Good soup! posted:IIRC it's mostly real until it very suddenly, and jarringly, isn't. And it's funny as hell after 16 years of advances in CGI we were able to achieve this 
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Aug 28, 2023 03:49
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It works pretty well in the final fight, where they mostly have Nomak throw Blade or leap through the air - the digi-double is used for the actual airtime and then when the body lands they seamlessly transition back to the actor landing on the ground, and it sells the effect a heck of a lot better IMO. When it's just noodle people moving around it's not great.
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live with fruit posted:The weirdest thing about the special effects in The Flash is how they would still CG Barry in dialogue scenes when there was only one Barry on screen. Probably using his double cause Ezra was off crimin’ it up.
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Aug 28, 2023 04:03
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Special effects have always been all over the place depending on how they're used, sloppy direction and bad priorities make bad CGI noticeable for various reasons. It's the art of smoke and mirrors after all, you have to polish it and use all the tools at your disposal.
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Aug 28, 2023 05:03
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Antman 1 and 2 was fun because of the Honey, I struck the Kids perspective, and the fun with shrinking and making things bigger in regular world trying to live normal lives. Car chases and heist stuff and Antman 3 is just a cgi fest with micro-aliens and everyone just stays the same relative size the whole movie.
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Aug 28, 2023 05:16
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GateOfD posted:Antman 1 and 2 was fun because of the Honey, I struck the Kids perspective lol surprisingly fitting given ant-man's/hank pym's history
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Special effects have always been all over the place depending on how they're used, sloppy direction and bad priorities make bad CGI noticeable for various reasons. It's the art of smoke and mirrors after all, you have to polish it and use all the tools at your disposal. Yeah, we know from insider info that in the recent past there's been a trend of big studios just ramrodding CGI companies, to brute force their requests by cranking out as much work as possible as fast as possible in permanent crunch mode. They have the companies just crank out sequence after sequence until they either get what they want or run out of time, either way it turns out substandard, uninspired work that's seemingly inexplicably worse than some past examples.
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Aug 28, 2023 05:18
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Bad practical effects can still have charm. Bad CGI makes you viscerally resent a movie. Like a gross intrusion from another reality too alien to understand they should be ashamed.
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Unless it's Lawnmower Man era, then it's a delight
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