|
Spike calls Giles a git during the musical, IIRC
|
#
?
Aug 27, 2023 21:12
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 4, 2024 21:12 |
|
|
none of these qualify as swearing except bloody and it's the mildest swear there is words that are swears in the UK are largely the exact same ones as in america, plus a couple extras
|
|
#
?
Aug 27, 2023 21:45
|
|
|
I've heard "bloody" on loads of British television, so I had no idea it was even considered a curse word there except on the level of "drat" or whatever, where it's the lesser version of something that's actually banned.
|
|
#
?
Aug 27, 2023 21:53
|
|
|
LividLiquid posted:I've heard "bloody" on loads of British television, so I had no idea it was even considered a curse word there except on the level of "drat" or whatever, where it's the lesser version of something that's actually banned. Yeah it's not really cursing. Like you probably wouldn't say it on a Saturday morning kids thing (if those are even a thing still) but pretty much any show on in the evening or soaps, that kinda thing, could have it without issue. I think one of my friends once got detention for saying "bloody hell" because a particularly religious older teacher heard him when we around 12/13, most any other wouldn't have given a gently caress
|
|
#
?
Aug 27, 2023 22:11
|
|
|
roomtone posted:none of these qualify as swearing except bloody and it's the mildest swear there is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp-q9-AagxY
|
|
#
?
Aug 27, 2023 22:14
|
|
|
Spike also calls them a 'band of buggered*' which is a crude enough word that it being used in an ad in Australia was controversial when I was young *(to bugger someone is anal sex, for American readers).
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 00:26
|
|
|
Ehhh I mean it is, but it's very mild as a swear, it's like idk snafu
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 01:07
|
|
|
Veryslightlymad posted:I feel the only thing that would raise eyebrows for Brits before 9PM was when Spike called Harmony a stupid Bint. Correct me please, since I though bint was just "bitch" but British.
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 01:34
|
|
|
MarsPearl posted:Spike also calls them a 'band of buggered*' which is a crude enough word that it being used in an ad in Australia was controversial when I was young https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPYmtEQiG18
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 02:06
|
|
|
thebardyspoon posted:I think one of my friends once got detention for saying "bloody hell" because a particularly religious older teacher heard him when we around 12/13, most any other wouldn't have given a gently caress Hahaha this exact thing happened to me in drama class We were doing improv, I was the irate customer, I said 'bloody' and got sent out and later on sent to some senior teacher for A Talking To Yes, I'm still bitter about it
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 02:17
|
|
|
Pan Dulce posted:Correct me please, since I though bint was just "bitch" but British. It's like broad, it's a very derogatory term for a woman but more in the sense of stupid than nasty?
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 02:28
|
|
|
I used to watch the pre-watershed airing of Buffy in the UK (6.45pm Thursdays, BBC 2), which they would censor for the timeslot. They usually censored sexual references and violence (Warren's flaying was heavily cut down). The only profanity I remember getting cut was the use of 'bitch'. One of the worst pieces of censorship was in Dead Things, where they cut various bits from the final Katrina/Warren scene. You lose her accusing them of rape as well as the actual murder, both of which they just cut around, so the scene is incoherent.
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 07:10
|
|
|
I'll defer to actual British people on the strength of their swears. I figured Bint might have been worse because, honestly, it just sounds worse. It's not a very lovely word. I'm not real surprised that most aren't actually that bad because, I mean, we also speak English. If something was nasty enough, we'd be using it here. And...erm... Not using it on TV, I guess.
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 09:40
|
|
|
Veryslightlymad posted:I'll defer to actual British people on the strength of their swears. I figured Bint might have been worse because, honestly, it just sounds worse. It's not a very lovely word. I'm pretty sure 'berk' is used in the series, which despite being considered pretty mild was originally rhyming slang for something that rhymes with the second word in 'Berkeley Hunt'.
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 13:03
|
|
|
Language constantly evolves and so does its insults. Scum bag is an elementary school taunt these days but 100 years ago it was one of the worst things to call someone. It's an old term for a used and discarded condom.
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 14:50
|
|
|
The big one that always makes me do a spit take when American TV uses it is 'wanker'. Partly because it just sounds funny in an American accent, but also while it's not close to 'gently caress' on the pantheon of swears, it's definitely not a daytime TV word you just throw around the way US shows occasionally writes British characters to use it. Bint tends to be more of a London/South East thing than a country wide word. Apparently it's an Arabic word originally that just meant 'girl', but it got adopted by sailors who used it to mean a 'bit on the side', and then it made the wider vocabulary from there. Now it's just a bit of a derogatory word to use for women, not a major insult but not that pleasant. It makes perfect sense that Spike uses it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 22:36
|
|
|
DavidCameronsPig posted:The big one that always makes me do a spit take when American TV uses it is 'wanker'. Partly because it just sounds funny in an American accent, but also while it's not close to 'gently caress' on the pantheon of swears, it's definitely not a daytime TV word you just throw around the way US shows occasionally writes British characters to use it. 
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2023 22:57
|
|
|
sebmojo posted:It's like broad, it's a very derogatory term for a woman but more in the sense of stupid than nasty? It means slutty, turns out. But nobody had ever used it that way in my entire life. They still haven't. I'M THE BIGGEST WANKER IN THE WORLD!
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2023 00:14
|
|
|
LividLiquid posted:I had no idea what the word meant until one day I called my sister a "tough broad" to one of her friends and she told me off for no poo poo ten minutes. yeah i never heard the slutty meaning, it was always damon runyon style (though it's treated as an insult in there, so TIL)
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2023 00:30
|
|
|
Best vampire ever.
|
|
#
?
Aug 31, 2023 16:37
|
|
|
side_burned posted:Best vampire ever. He really is, despite or maybe because he's such a piece of poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Aug 31, 2023 16:45
|
|
|
side_burned posted:Best vampire ever.  This is still one of my favorite comic coverse ever. Sentinel Red posted:He really is, despite or maybe because he's such a piece of poo poo. Yeah one of the many things I hate about the show adaptation is how they really didn't make him into the giant piece of poo poo he was revealed to be in the comic.
|
|
#
?
Aug 31, 2023 16:53
|
|
|
Sentinel Red posted:He really is, despite or maybe because he's such a piece of poo poo. Also the best example of the manipulative and toxic 'friend' that Garth Ennis keeps writing.
|
|
#
?
Aug 31, 2023 16:55
|
|
|
Medullah posted:Yeah one of the many things I hate about the show adaptation is how they really didn't make him into the giant piece of poo poo he was revealed to be in the comic. The show was so boring I gave up near the end of S2. Hearing that they wimped out on doing Cass properly, and didn't do "not enough gun", left me completely uninterested in going back to finish it. Don't get me wrong, it's fine to changes things in any adaptation but leaving out great moments and replacing them with utterly boring, meandering poo poo can never be forgiven. Like, why are you even bothering in the first place, etc.
|
|
#
?
Aug 31, 2023 17:51
|
|
|
Sentinel Red posted:The show was so boring I gave up near the end of S2. Hearing that they wimped out on doing Cass properly, and didn't do "not enough gun", left me completely uninterested in going back to finish it. As a show watcher only I'd be interested in hearing more about how Cass was meant to be and the "Not enough gun" scene?
|
|
#
?
Sep 4, 2023 12:09
|
|
|
PriorMarcus posted:As a show watcher only I'd be interested in hearing more about how Cass was meant to be and the "Not enough gun" scene? "Not enough gun" refers to how Herr Starr sics an entire main battle tank division on the Saint of Killers and when that doesn't work, orders a small nuke dropped on him which also doesn't work. That's what the Saint says in response.
|
|
#
?
Sep 4, 2023 12:40
|
|
|
PriorMarcus posted:As a show watcher only I'd be interested in hearing more about how Cass was meant to be and the "Not enough gun" scene? It's all fun and games at first. It's only about a third of the way through when Cass pretends to be Jesse when the Grail show up, take him to Masada, and he's tortured horribly when they realise what he actually is. Jesse rescues him, they get back to the States and Cass tells him his past, all is well, they're firm besties forever. Then he makes a move on Tulip while drunk (hence the "I'm a wanker" panels when he realises). He apologises but keeps trying it on every time he has a few. Later Jesse is presumed dead and Tulip hits the bottle big time. Instead of helping, Cass enables her and repeatedly gets her wasted on booze and pills, taking full advantage while she's too far gone to care. Months later, she finally snaps out of her funk and when he tries to reassert control, she blasts him into broad daylight and escapes. Meanwhile, Jesse starts digging into his backstory and discovers the real version, about all the women he abused and left dead or broken in his wake. They meet, Jesse beats the absolute poo poo out of him (vampire speed/strength or no, he can't actually fight for poo poo) while calling him out for all he's done. The sun rises and Cassidy seemingly suicides out of shame. Starr kills Jesse, Tulip kills Starr, God destroys Genesis, all's well that ends well etc. Psyche! Cass made a deal with God to kill Jesse to separate him from Genesis, and in return God will restore Jesse to life no matter what. But he also stipulated to God that he be restored to life too if he dies, so the final scene is a now human Cassidy watching the sunset, hopefully inspired by his time with Jesse enough to be a better person from now on. A real lovely chap, couldn't ask for a finer friend.
|
|
#
?
Sep 4, 2023 15:19
|
|
|
So we got to Beer Bad in Buffy and Rm W/A Vu in Angel. Isn't Beer Bad the episode Whedon regrets writing the most? It's "Just Say No," pandering trash, but it's funny. I always love the gifs of Buffy in this episode. Specifically these modern marvels:  and  AND... this episode had a baby Kal Penn in it before House or Harold and Kumar! He's Kal Pencil. Other than that, it's a satisfying ending to Buffy moping over poop-head Parker. Wish other girls could get over their ex's by bashing them non-fatally with a big stick. As for the Angel episode, it had Beth Grant in it! I recognized her from a lot of things, but the most recent one was Mayfair Witches (don't watch it, it's drat terrible). It was nice watching her torture Cordy, especially when, get this, she says something else horrible and culturally insensitive for today's day and age and only mildly hosed up then. "My apartment. It's like the barrio or the projects..." I get it. Not a lot to complain about unless you're from the minorities in question that get shamed for living in places like this. Stupid microaggressions. I do like that Angel is the one who boosts up Cordelia, or tries to anyway, by telling her she's THE Cordelia Chase, to stick up to the ghost. Later, the ghost puts her on blast, calling her a bitch, which makes her shake off the cry-Buffy in her and stand-up for herself.
|
|
#
?
Sep 6, 2023 08:17
|
|
|
If anyone wants to "own" either series, Angel and Buffy complete series HDX are on Vudu for $35 each right now ($35 per series, not season)
|
|
#
?
Sep 6, 2023 12:57
|
|
|
Pan Dulce posted:Isn't Beer Bad the episode Whedon regrets writing the most? It's "Just Say No," pandering trash, but it's funny. IIRC, he recognizes it as one folks generally don't like but thinks it has its moments. Also, that episode was written specifically for the Office of National Drug Control Policy, which was offering money to shows that pushed anti-drug messaging. As I recall, they didn't end up getting the money because the show was seen as too ridiculous or something.
|
|
#
?
Sep 7, 2023 03:34
|
|
|
It’s funny, “Fear, Itself” was the first episode of a “teen” show I had ever watched, marking an abrupt transition from Nickelodeon / Disney into the WB and MTV. I became obsessed almost immediately, renting old episodes on VHS and reading transcripts of the ones that weren’t available from Blockbuster. I wonder how differently things would have turned out if I had waited a week and watched “Beer Bad” instead…
|
|
#
?
Sep 7, 2023 17:01
|
|
|
Oh I don't know, Beer Bad has its charms. Nowhere near a Halloween episode, to be sure, but I'm sure you would have still noticed how special a combination of shows these two are. I actually had to be dragged to watch it kicking and screaming, metaphorically speaking. The man in question who recommended Buffy to me at 18 years old said Dollhouse was better and would hit its stride after five episodes. I gave it three and hated every second of it; couldn't finish it, the acting of Dushku was so mediocre for what she was being called to do. So when he said Buffy wasn't "as good" and "takes a season to hit its stride," I questioned his sanity. There's so much good TV right off the bat, why wait episode after episode for the show to finally get good? For that matter, what is good to you if trash fires of episodes are fine? But eventually, years later around 21, I needed a show to binge after seeing a bunch of supernatural/magical-themed shows and Buffy fit the bill. I was hooked right from the start. Although again, I had to be convinced to watch Angel, since I didn't like Boreanaz's acting as the first Edward Cullen and didn't want a misery porn show. Boy howdy, was I wrong!
|
|
#
?
Sep 7, 2023 17:46
|
|
|
Pan Dulce posted:So when he said Buffy wasn't "as good" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP0Z0Kl7Zzg&t=13s
|
|
#
?
Sep 7, 2023 17:54
|
|
|
Medullah posted:
|
|
#
?
Sep 7, 2023 21:19
|
|
|
watched the first few episodes of Buffy last night. I knew very little of the show other than this story: I was at a church youth group when I was ten or so and there was a new guy dressed somewhat gothy who, with great shame in his introduction to everyone, said that he "had watched a lot of Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Anyway, as someone who is as tabula rasa with the show as possible, I gotta say this seems pretty good. I like the joke in episode 2, "one thing is for sure, nothing will ever be the same" then a cut to a regular school day
|
|
#
?
Sep 11, 2023 17:07
|
|
|
Yeah buffy owns. First season is fine then it really gets going, you have a splendid ride ahead of you, definitely keep posting your impressions! The no spoiler b5 thread was really good so starting one of those is an option if you think posting about it sounds fun.
|
|
#
?
Sep 11, 2023 20:30
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/status/1701949723119075438?s=20
Medullah fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Sep 13, 2023 |
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2023 14:40
|
|
|
I read that and went "oof, very good chance this might be bad but I'm happy some of these actors are getting some money at least even if I never end up listening to it" and then saw the plot synopsis and yeah, it's probably going to be bad. Apparently Amber Benson wrote it, not watched anything she's written to be fair, it's just the concept feels very well worn these days. It's main universe colliding with parallel universe stuff, I kinda like the idea of Cordelia the Vampire Slayer at least, that's a fun nod to Charisma Carpenter originally going for the lead role.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2023 15:01
|
|
|
thebardyspoon posted:I read that and went "oof, very good chance this might be bad but I'm happy some of these actors are getting some money at least even if I never end up listening to it" and then saw the plot synopsis and yeah, it's probably going to be bad. Apparently Amber Benson wrote it, not watched anything she's written to be fair, it's just the concept feels very well worn these days. It's main universe colliding with parallel universe stuff, I kinda like the idea of Cordelia the Vampire Slayer at least, that's a fun nod to Charisma Carpenter originally going for the lead role. This is the exact same plot as the recent comic book series too.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2023 15:54
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 4, 2024 21:12 |
|
|
LividLiquid posted:My least favorite thing about that show is that they forgot to make Jesse and Cassidy loving friends, much less the kind of friends who love one-another enough that his eventual reveal as a weapons-grade piece of poo poo would actually land, to say nothing of his eventual redemption. And that they made Jesse into a dork. In the comics he hates being a preacher and is forced against his will by his family to do it. In the show he voluntarily quits being a bank robber and becomes a preacher.
|
|
#
?
Sep 14, 2023 06:11
|
|
