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Chas McGill posted:Whenever I do a reread it's always a bit weird how Pat is introduced in the dirtiest dudes in town bit. Also funny how Beef is identified as being not Ray and not Pat. I remember expecting Pat to have a much bigger role.
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but he knew that he wasn't afraid of the loving POLICE right then
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Zereth posted:Remember when Cornelius didn't know what vodka, bourbon, and tequila were? anything before The Party is like an achewood-adjacent art test
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Cornelius definitely knows better and less obvious ways to pull his robe out of his asscrack now.
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And instead of being excited that Flava Flav would be around with a blinking gold tooth, he'd swear oaths and fie upon the bragadoccio of a rap person.
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Pat would never say "Why would you want that much zin, man?". He'd recommend some kind of inane fauxcohol "wyne" made from sustainably discarded abalone shell or some poo poo.
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I can definitely believe the arc of Pat from frat bro to clean living annoying vegan who takes ayahuasca
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Pat would go around the party pushing people to try the worst kombucha you've ever tasted.
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Ray has been exactly the same since the beginning.
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Very dumb but very sweet charismatic guy is a powerful archetype
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Ray if he wasnt rich would be a tragic figure on the level of Simon Pegg's character from The World's End
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mutantIke posted:Ray has been exactly the same since the beginning. Yeah, for how much all the other characters have changed since their early incarnations, Ray has always just been, and always shall be, Ray. Even after rehab he's the same endless font of dumbass charisma as always.
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MikeCrotch posted:Ray if he wasnt rich would be a tragic figure on the level of Simon Pegg's character from The World's End ray wouldn't have ever been ray if he wasn't rich. things Just Work Out for ray so he's never considered Problems. it's basically impossible for this to happen to you unless you're rich
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more falafel please posted:ray wouldn't have ever been ray if he wasn't rich. things Just Work Out for ray so he's never considered Problems. it's basically impossible for this to happen to you unless you're rich But he is not poor in the way of Peter Cropes. Similarly, Teodor is of the same Class as Pat, even if Roast Beef may have more actual money than Teodor.
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I mean it did take a bit after he was introduced for Ray to become rich on panel(when he sold his soul for piano skills) and then a bit longer to establish that he had always been wealthy, indeed some of his early appearances indicated he didn't have much money though that can probably be chalked up to early Achewood weirdness
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My assumption was that the Smuckles family and Ray growing up were regular-rich, sufficient to insulate Ray from consequences, but it wasn't until selling his soul for piano talent that he became "buying Airwolf off eBay"-level rich. I agree that trying to determine character backstory continuity for Achewood is a fool's errand, though.
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Yeah,disaster pastor posted:They wouldn't be anymore, but to me, too, Ray's family before Ray getting ultra-rich looks to me like the mid-century ideal of "middle class." Homeowners with enough disposable income that the kid gets whatever he wants and has a leg up when he hits adulthood, but he still goes to the same schools and participates in the same stuff as Roast Beef does. Adult Ray has made more money and is even better off, but before the record cash comes in, he's fancy in the "monogrammed towels from Wayfair" way, not yet the "millionaire" way.
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MikeCrotch posted:I can definitely believe the arc of Pat from frat bro to clean living annoying vegan who takes ayahuasca we know that in 2003 Pat was into Moby
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IIRC, the soul-selling wasn't the catalyst for Ray becoming ultra-rich, it was him scoring a daguerrotype porno off eBay and taking it to Antiques Roadshow.
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Kazinsal posted:IIRC, the soul-selling wasn't the catalyst for Ray becoming ultra-rich, it was him scoring a daguerrotype porno off eBay and taking it to Antiques Roadshow. isn't it both? Like he got rich off "rear end in your Pants" and later on one of his pieces in his collection ended up being worth a ton more money, making him functionally like a billionaire?
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The moment Ray became rich was when he found fifty bucks on the street after the toilet party.
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You don't need a lot of scratch to do it under a Mustang for your birthday. Don't you want to do it under a Mustang?
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moot the hopple posted:You don't need a lot of scratch to do it under a Mustang for your birthday. Don't you want to do it under a Mustang? Dracula don't got much money this month mwa ha ha
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more falafel please posted:ray wouldn't have ever been ray if he wasn't rich. things Just Work Out for ray so he's never considered Problems. it's basically impossible for this to happen to you unless you're rich disaster pastor posted:Yeah,
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Zereth posted:yeah when he says "being in trouble is a fake idea" that's because he's rich. Ray's ZIP code is 94526, which puts him out in Danville. That's not exactly Palo Alto.
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So Onstad removed the strip about Lyle's sex gig "Todd! Find me a job, you rear end in a top hat" but not that other one.
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I guess in the end they did not like a grunty gin man. e: Also all the blog posts relating to that particular chapter in Lyle's life are still there, complete with him spouting the slur at least once a sentence Youremother fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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Yeah, a couple weeks ago I noticed that the one in which Ray recounts mispronouncing "Nigeria" in Sunday school is also gone.
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That’s a bummer but I get it. Wonder if the one about googles wheelchair accessibility is still up.
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Emrikol posted:Yeah, a couple weeks ago I noticed that the one in which Ray recounts mispronouncing "Nigeria" in Sunday school is also gone. (is "that other one" that's still up the one where Philippe gets a cute amount of money for a cute little guy after describing a poor golf shot?)
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DACK FAYDEN posted:diplomacy's a tough tattle That one is indeed still up, and I also assumed it was the one being referred to.
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Safety Dance posted:Ray's ZIP code is 94526, which puts him out in Danville. That's not exactly Palo Alto.
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Zereth posted:In one of his advice columns, Ray references a real bar in Palo Alto (well, it may have closed since) as being in Achewood. I lived there for a lot of the strip's run, there's a lot of things that match up.  Antonio's Nut House
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this gives me real Ray Smuckles vibes https://twitter.com/BlackRedGuard1/status/1696610864722293246
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Pattonesque posted:this gives me real Ray Smuckles vibes oh my god
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"I actually disagree with that." is such a Rayism
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Pattonesque posted:this gives me real Ray Smuckles vibes Like I actually kind of understand the logic here, like it's not very well thought out but it is there, which I guess sums up quite well how Ray thinks most of the time
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I feel like I understand both Ray and Barkley a lot more now.
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Zereth posted:In one of his advice columns, Ray references a real bar in Palo Alto (well, it may have closed since) as being in Achewood. I lived there for a lot of the strip's run, there's a lot of things that match up. Hey where do we reckon the Transfer Station is then? I've often wondered that. It's gotta be near a bay, I think?
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