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When I tried the demo for Sea of Stars it definitely felt good. The pixel art graphics were nice, music was great, characters were fun, even though the demo kinda drops you in the middle of the plot, I had a good time with it. Combat has some unique ideas which I'm sure there'll be more with the full game. I have no idea how much it launches for, Microsoft Store at least seems to offer it for 35€ which seems like a bit steep, but we'll see. (probably not steep if it's a long rear end pixel art RPG, but rather steep in the sense that august-september is so full of good games I want to try...)
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Jack Trades posted:Because in the mind of your average joe "D&D" = "PnP RPG". This is the burden of being a ttrpg enjoyer, made even worse since actual plays and Stranger Things made D&D popular.
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TeaJay posted:When I tried the demo for Sea of Stars it definitely felt good. The pixel art graphics were nice, music was great, characters were fun, even though the demo kinda drops you in the middle of the plot, I had a good time with it. Combat has some unique ideas which I'm sure there'll be more with the full game. It's also on game pass and one of the playstation + tiers. Weird that there isn't a price listed on steam though.
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Release Times for Starfield; e; https://www.ign.com/articles/starfield-global-release-times-and-pc-specs-revealed
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Doesn't sound like it. 5th for that.
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Thanks! I can wait. I deeply, deeply regret paying a stupid amount of money to play Diablo 4 early so definitely not making that mistake again.
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explosivo posted:No early access for gamepass havers, right? You have to buy the premium bundle for 30 dollars.
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explosivo posted:Thanks! I can wait. I deeply, deeply regret paying a stupid amount of money to play Diablo 4 early so definitely not making that mistake again. Only reason I did for D4 was because I figured server queues were guaranteed so I was like fine I'll pay $20 or whatever it was to get a week before the real server slam starts. But this is a singleplayer game so I'll gladly wait until 8PM on the 5th. I'm debating taking a day off next Friday, mostly out of "gently caress my loving job" rather than "Oh boy video game"... but if I do, I will most likely spend that time playing 
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Jack Trades posted:Shartfield Ya I am looking forward to it too what character are you going to make?
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KakerMix posted:Ya I am looking forward to it too what character are you going to make? janitor
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looking forward to watching the youtube video essays about how it's either buggy and terrible or the best game of all time not gonna play it though
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I'm gonna play it on Gamepass then when it won't stop loving up I'll play a different cool game on Gamepass instead.
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Croccers posted:I'm gonna play it on Gamepass then when it won't stop loving up I'll play a different cool game on Gamepass instead. Gamepass rules
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KakerMix posted:Ya I am looking forward to it too what character are you going to make? A stealth archer.
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Fruits of the sea posted:Half this: DnD also has the ironic hell of letting you roleplay better by having to make poo poo up for roleplay, than most "storytelling" systems. The sales pitch is always "Oh but you can really roleplay in THIS system! Unlike stupid combat system for idiots!" The result is always "Excuse me, you can't do that. The chart is sacred. Also I see you didn't roll high for searching a filing cabinet, allowing me to bank a consequence coupon to declare 'you crash a car' or 'the monster gets a new power' later." Storytelling systems are basically a scumbag rules lawyer wet dream for GMs who want to tell themselves "I'm not a jerk obsessed with winning! You get bonus experience when I declare your crit success was actually a horrible gently caress up!" A friend of mine was eyeing the Cypher system for later. They thought I read it ahead of time when, half of my jokes about those trends were literal examples of "How to GM your story system. When a player stacks bonuses so they can actually climb a wall without falling down and hurting themselves, declare the wall collapses with your GM interrupt" in the rule book.
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Jack Trades posted:You could save time by skipping the bad one. Are you being paid to slag off Starfield everytime it's mentioned in this thread
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Section Z posted:The result is always "Excuse me, you can't do that. The chart is sacred. Also I see you didn't roll high for searching a filing cabinet, allowing me to bank a consequence coupon to declare 'you crash a car' or 'the monster gets a new power' later." You must've had some lovely GMs lol.
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Section Z posted:DnD also has the ironic hell of letting you roleplay better by having to make poo poo up for roleplay, than most "storytelling" systems. one of the most deranged posts i ever read
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Resdfru posted:Are you being paid to slag off Starfield everytime it's mentioned in this thread You must be new here
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Resdfru posted:Are you being paid to slag off Starfield everytime it's mentioned in this thread It's a SA honoured tradition for goons to hate boner post about games that haven't been released yet, or they haven't played.
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Section Z posted:DnD also has the ironic hell of letting you roleplay better by having to make poo poo up for roleplay, than most "storytelling" systems. hmm... Hope you find a better RPG group in the future.
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Resdfru posted:Are you being paid to slag off Starfield everytime it's mentioned in this thread I thought they meant BG3
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i complain about games for free
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Section Z posted:DnD also has the ironic hell of letting you roleplay better by having to make poo poo up for roleplay, than most "storytelling" systems. It's already been mentioned by others but who are you gaming with? I have never ever played with a group that adhered to a ruleset as it's written, it's always a framework that the DM/GM can always just go 'lol no the reality is actually' and make whatever the hell up. There is no winning when you play PnP games, it's collaborative fiction to then later go "dude remember that time (shared fiction you all wrote together during a game)? That ruled" like people talk about their favorite movies.
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Ghostlight posted:i complain about games for free amateur
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kazil posted:amateur I mean that's what they said
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KakerMix posted:It's already been mentioned by others but who are you gaming with? I have never ever played with a group that adhered to a ruleset as it's written, it's always a framework that the DM/GM can always just go 'lol no the reality is actually' and make whatever the hell up. The current group is great, when we can get together mostly weekly online. Most of the horror stories are in the past, leading to cases of "I thought you were exaggerating holy poo poo" from said current friends. Such as the above example of 'No really, I didn't read Cypher ahead of time. That is just how Story Systems always end up.' When the one doing the DMing was looking up stuff outside of 5th ed to run for us later. The one doing most of the current GMing is also essentially "That guy who wants to steal the acid pit trap to sell for profit". Teamed up with a bunch of people happy to just do basic adventuring. He will count every last arrow forever. He will also warn us "you only have 47 arrows left" instead of waiting until we run out to declare we should have prepared better, and want us to open an arrow factory with all the goblins we convinced to sit back while we tear their leader in half.
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The only time I've ever tried playing D&D 5e irl in actual tabletop was with a group from work (big mistake never do this) and all of them (including the DM) were brand new to D&D and very much struggling to understand the fundamental mechanics of the game, so they insisted that everything had to be done exactly as written in the rulebook, right down to only being able to play as the pre-generated characters in the adventure book, even having to adhere to their prewritten backstories and motivations. It was an incredibly terrible experience and I quit after 2 sessions so I get where that post is coming from Also I got stuck playing as the pregen cleric and they were all so bad at the game that literally the only thing I got to do was cast heals every turn e: At one point we wanted to do something and the DM actually said "There's nothing in the adventure guide for that" and wouldn't let us do it. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Aug 28, 2023 |
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Ghostlight posted:i complain about games for free You're on Something Awful, it's documented that not only will you complain about games for free, you'll even pay for the privilege.
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deep dish peat moss posted:The only time I've ever tried playing D&D 5e irl in actual tabletop was with a group from work (big mistake never do this) and all of them (including the DM) were brand new to D&D and very much struggling to understand the fundamental mechanics of the game, so they insisted that everything had to be done exactly as written in the rulebook, right down to only being able to play as the pre-generated characters in the adventure book, even having to adhere to their prewritten backstories and motivations. It was an incredibly terrible experience and I quit after 2 sessions so I get where that post is coming from That and they think mocking green dragons is funny, so we get to actually buy the drat poison and disease immunity items once we got the gold for it. Which is wonderfully opposite of my past experiences of "Aw gently caress, I forgot you have expensive point buy based immunity to even xenomorph eggs and nanoplague and are ALSO a zombie ghost... Well, you see. It would ruin my plot if-"
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Section Z posted:The current group is great, when we can get together mostly weekly online. Most of the horror stories are in the past, Ok, but a lovely/adversarial GM/Group isn't the fault of any given game system, whether they're simulationist or narrative, rules light or super crunchy.
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Hwurmp posted:Starfailed 
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deep dish peat moss posted:Also I got stuck playing as the pregen cleric and they were all so bad at the game that literally the only thing I got to do was cast heals every turn never cast heals in 5e unless a character is about to fail their 3rd death save. enemies do damage faster than you can heal, and the action economy much prefers you doing damage or CC instead to reduce the incoming hits
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Section Z posted:Storytelling systems are basically a scumbag rules lawyer wet dream for GMs who want to tell themselves "I'm not a jerk obsessed with winning! You get bonus experience when I declare your crit success was actually a horrible gently caress up!" have u considered problem might be that your gm friend is a scumbag rules lawyer obsessed with winning
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Subjunctive posted:never cast heals in 5e unless a character is about to fail their 3rd death save. enemies do damage faster than you can heal, and the action economy much prefers you doing damage or CC instead to reduce the incoming hits I mean yeah, except the 5e pregen characters and low-level mechanics don't support doing this because the lovely point-buy system they use for pregen characters means clerics, as a hybrid class, always start with stats too low to reliably land either spells or attacks until they get a few ASIs It wouldn't have been a problem if I was able to make my own character with ability rolls that would facilitate either spellcasting or melee though! Look at Shadowheart in BG3 as an example, she's completely useless in combat for the first ~3-7 levels unless you respec her to redo her ability scores and/or cantrips. She can cast warding bond and bless, but then she just stands back and watches while you fight, occasionally tossing out heals or missing a 30-40% hit chance Sacred Flame. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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deep dish peat moss posted:I mean yeah, except the 5e pregen characters and low-level mechanics don't support doing this because the lovely point-buy system they use for pregen characters means clerics, as a hybrid class, always start with stats too low to reliably land either spells or attacks until they get a few ASIs Shadowheart blasts damage at level 2 for me, maybe you're just cursed with bad dice?
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WirelessPillow posted:Shadowheart blasts damage at level 2 for me, maybe you're just cursed with bad dice? She's definitely built weird for a Cleric.
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