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Anywho Q2 Ground Zero has okay level designs in sort of a technical way, but they're not intuitive at all and involve doubling back but not looping back, as someone else noted. The one thing I think GZ is doing very well that base Q2 didn't really do is have memorable encounters and events. The secret level that's just you climbing up a level as it fills with lava (even though you end up with the worst weapon across the game and all expansions), the bit where you can disguise as a Strogg guard and sneak around without enemies going aggro, a trap where a bunch of enemies above rain down grenades and bullets on you while a gladiator very slowly cuts a hole in the wall to attack you. I just wish they'd back off with the medics and super medics, having one rush out immediately after you kill a tank commander to rez it is loving bullllllshit.
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The Kins posted:This is neat: Some modders have been hacking co-op and a mod SDK into Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, and they've just received "blank check approval" from the rightsholders at Ubisoft to do and release pretty much whatever they want without fear of the dreaded legals. I wish more modding projects could live with this kind of confidence that they won't be smote at any moment, but I'll take what I can get. Oh hell yeah
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Baron von Eevl posted:Anywho Q2 Ground Zero has okay level designs in sort of a technical way, but they're not intuitive at all and involve doubling back but not looping back, as someone else noted. The one thing I think GZ is doing very well that base Q2 didn't really do is have memorable encounters and events. The secret level that's just you climbing up a level as it fills with lava (even though you end up with the worst weapon across the game and all expansions), the bit where you can disguise as a Strogg guard and sneak around without enemies going aggro, a trap where a bunch of enemies above rain down grenades and bullets on you while a gladiator very slowly cuts a hole in the wall to attack you. I just wish they'd back off with the medics and super medics, having one rush out immediately after you kill a tank commander to rez it is loving bullllllshit. Remember your ABGs A) Always B) Be G) Gibbing. Always be gibbing. Always. Be. Gibbing.
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I saw that one particular section in Operation: Corpse Run coming from a mile away.
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The 7th Guest posted:Oh woops I thought I put Cultic in the second tier, it’s very good Not a single one of those is real, I refuse to believe it.
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The Kins posted:This is neat: Some modders have been hacking co-op and a mod SDK into Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, and they've just received "blank check approval" from the rightsholders at Ubisoft to do and release pretty much whatever they want without fear of the dreaded legals. I wish more modding projects could live with this kind of confidence that they won't be smote at any moment, but I'll take what I can get.  this is great news!Guillermus posted:gently caress - actual quote from 'kingpin', (c) 1999 xatrix Convex fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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Xenomrph posted:Not a single one of those is real, I refuse to believe it. What, you've never played Bloodaissance Ripper III? You're missing out.
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Buy me Bonestorm or go to Hell!
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Baron von Eevl posted:Anywho Q2 Ground Zero has okay level designs in sort of a technical way, but they're not intuitive at all and involve doubling back but not looping back, as someone else noted. The one thing I think GZ is doing very well that base Q2 didn't really do is have memorable encounters and events. The secret level that's just you climbing up a level as it fills with lava (even though you end up with the worst weapon across the game and all expansions), the bit where you can disguise as a Strogg guard and sneak around without enemies going aggro, a trap where a bunch of enemies above rain down grenades and bullets on you while a gladiator very slowly cuts a hole in the wall to attack you. I just wish they'd back off with the medics and super medics, having one rush out immediately after you kill a tank commander to rez it is loving bullllllshit. ... i cant remember the lava trap. Whats the worst weapon in teh game?
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Milo and POTUS posted:... i cant remember the lava trap. Whats the worst weapon in teh game? It's the secret level in Ground Zero's first "unit", which you have to find during the countdown. You get the Chainfist, a melee weapon.
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A.o.D. posted:Remember your ABGs Yeah, but when the medic runs out timed for the moment you kill the tank it suuucks, you have to time it exactly right. But yeah, I'll gib anything bigger than a grunt when I have a chance. Milo and POTUS posted:... i cant remember the lava trap. Whats the worst weapon in teh game? The chainsaw fist. It's low damage, melee range only, and the time for damage varies depending on what animation the rng plays so you can't even time it right. edit: it's the secret level in unit 1 https://quake.fandom.com/wiki/Mine_Engineering Baron von Eevl fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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it also doesn't seem to stunlock the opponent so it's not even good against melee opponents.
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The 7th Guest posted:Blood West I didn't even see it in the list when I first read this post, but: FYI Blood West is not a retro shooter at all, it's a first person stealth horror game. e; and Neon Struct is a Thief clone, and VHS is a first-person horror Metroidvania, and Gloomwood is also not an FPS. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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It's a Weird West Stalker-like and is good. Still in EA though, mind. Deadlink is good too. No idea if it qualifies as a retro FPS but I got it in a 'boomer shooter' pack recently. Is there a label as annoying as boomer shooter? No.
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Rev. Melchisedech Howler posted:It's a Weird West Stalker-like and is good. Still in EA though, mind. welcome to the immersive sim category (label) on steam: https://store.steampowered.com/category/sim_life/?facets13268=2%3A24
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All first person games are shooters now, so sayeth the tags
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Immersive sim is a dumb name too. They're clearly 0451s.Arivia posted:welcome to the immersive sim category (label) on steam: https://store.steampowered.com/category/sim_life/?facets13268=2%3A24 I'm guessing this comes from people not knowing what immersive sims should be and focusing on the sim bit. I don't remember much hacking or vent crawling in my time with Euro Truck Simulator at any rate. Rev. Melchisedech Howler fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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I call them FPS games
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I call them FPS games "3D Monster Maze clones"
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The Kins posted:This is neat: Some modders have been hacking co-op and a mod SDK into Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, and they've just received "blank check approval" from the rightsholders at Ubisoft to do and release pretty much whatever they want without fear of the dreaded legals. I wish more modding projects could live with this kind of confidence that they won't be smote at any moment, but I'll take what I can get. Co-op Dark Messiah? Kicking an orc back and forth forever...
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Crowetron posted:Co-op Dark Messiah? Make your co-op buddy slip down stairs or off ledges with the ice spell
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Replaying some Wolfenstein 09 and something about the voice acting makes the whole thing feel like a top secret! / naked gun style comedy. eg i wouldn't be surprised to hear: Eric Engle: "BJ! Over here!" BJ Blazkowicz: "Not right now Eric, we've got Nazis to kill" *kills 500 nazis* it's a better game than the new ones tbh
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Convex posted:it's a better game than the new ones tbh Going to go back in time and alter the timestream so Wolf 09 never gets made entirely so I don't have to hear people say this anymore.
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Lemon-Lime posted:I didn't even see it in the list when I first read this post, but: FYI Blood West is not a retro shooter at all, it's a first person stealth horror game. except for gloomwood I guess but it is published by new blood
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Rev. Melchisedech Howler posted:Deadlink is good too. No idea if it qualifies as a retro FPS but I got it in a 'boomer shooter' pack recently. Is there a label as annoying as boomer shooter? No. It's vaguely adjacent to Doom Eternal combat, which is vaguely adjacent to Doom, which is an old shooter; QED it's a boomer shooter, I guess.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Going to go back in time and alter the timestream so Wolf 09 never gets made entirely so I don't have to hear people say this anymore. Well I mean, Wolf 09 owns and should be re-released so more people can play it. Likewise, Singularity is great too. And if you want the slavjank version of Wolf 09, check out Ubersoldier 2 on Steam — it has nearly identical superpowers to the Veil powers from the 09 game. It also came out first. It also has HILARIOUSLY bad voice acting. Like, holy poo poo.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I'm stuck on a level from Call of the Machine. I'm on the level called Too Greedy and the compass is directing me to this door, but it says it opens elsewhere. Any idea where the switch is? So if you push forward a little, there's a sequence where you climb around the area and there's a hidden switch that opens that gate to the lower levels. This is the 6th episode of Call of the Machine and without spoiling things the last part is hosed up big time!!
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Going to go back in time and alter the timestream so Wolf 09 never gets made entirely so I don't have to hear people say this anymore. oh so you wouldn't stop hitler with the time machine or anything
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Lemon-Lime posted:Gloomwood is also not an FPS. The Kins posted:
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Convex posted:oh so you wouldn't stop hitler with the time machine or anything If they stopped hitler we wouldn’t have ANY of the Wolfenstein games sooooo
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:If they stopped hitler we wouldn’t have ANY of the Wolfenstein games sooooo 
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:If they stopped hitler we wouldn’t have ANY of the Wolfenstein games sooooo Well when you put it that way Edit— two relevant skits: https://youtu.be/33Zp3BXwDB8?si=hETnM9qWLttvpUfY https://youtu.be/5NC7SkdRm5s?si=kps5QqV7sXbU3kZG Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:So if you push forward a little, there's a sequence where you climb around the area and there's a hidden switch that opens that gate to the lower levels. This is the 6th episode of Call of the Machine and without spoiling things the last part is hosed up big time!! Are you talking about the mission failed?
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Going to go back in time and alter the timestream so Wolf 09 never gets made entirely so I don't have to hear people say this anymore. Gonna go back in time and make it so this post was never made.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Are you talking about the mission failed? I didn't really understand what happened but I ended up fighting a gigantic shambler from Quake which was pretty cool.
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Re: Call of the Machine's "Operation Darkest Depths", I loved the idea that Quake & Quake 2 were in the same universe and that, beneath the Strogg and all of their machinery, an ancient, primitive evil dwelt.
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Any thoughts on the collectible head of the Quake Ranger in one of the secret levels?
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Prophet of Nixon posted:Any thoughts on the collectible head of the Quake Ranger in one of the secret levels? Not sure, but in the original Quake II, there was a unique "adrenaline" pickup that took the crude form of John Carmack's head, and I can only assume that somebody ended up replacing it with Ranger's head in the remaster? https://quake.fandom.com/wiki/Adrenaline (see under "Ancient Head" section)
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