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quote:"Pyro is almost done, will probably get a "feature complete" announcement at Citcon" quote:At present, it has been consumed by 80000usd.🥲 “CitizenCon” is so on the nose it hurts.
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Fangrim posted:
There seems to be a tiny little part that they are forgetting to deliver on. The part that, apparently, affected the project the most.
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quote:I moved my home closer to work  quote:my fantastic wife enabled me to move closer to work and she got a different job so I could progress. quote:Through a few meetings, I was dismissed.
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Quite. He may have 7 years of experience, but from this quote alone, I can only conclude that CI¬G is his only experience in games. Not game development — just games. At no point have they shown off any kind of revolutionary tech, much less anything that other developers would want to use. Quite the opposite: at every stage, they have relied on other people's work to make any kind of headway with the project, and every time, as soon as they stopped doing that, the project stalled. So no, my dear dev friend, they are not very talented. They're just better than you, and that's not saying much.
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Aug 29, 2023 12:54
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Also, tech is only really 'revolutionary' for a game if it unlocks gameplay (in the broadest possible sense) that would not be possible otherwise. Finding more complicated ways to do something that has already been achieved, or developing something that doesn't impact the game experience at all is just busywork and feature padding.
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Aug 29, 2023 13:11
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Shazback posted:Also, tech is only really 'revolutionary' for a game if it unlocks gameplay (in the broadest possible sense) that would not be possible otherwise. Finding more complicated ways to do something that has already been achieved, or developing something that doesn't impact the game experience at all is just busywork and feature padding. No but you see, being inefficient and “high fidelity” will be so disruptive and counter to how everything is done by anyone intelligent that the whole games industry will change their ways and remake everything, but much worse. That's how revolutions truly happen.
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Aug 29, 2023 13:15
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Some galaxy brain (in the thread Mirificus got that great message from) noted that SC has revolutionary tech "Camera-relative rendering".
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Aug 29, 2023 13:26
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Buying $1500 office chairs and very expensive desks is a sensible way to spend backer money as it can be recovered partially in the liquidation sale. The worth of whatever would have been produced by CIG employees hired for the same money would be zero.
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Aug 29, 2023 13:42
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Interesting wrinkle that CInG employees are as bamboozled by their made-up-words-for-already-existing-things-but-rebranded-as-"revolutionary-tech" as the backers are.
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Aug 29, 2023 14:44
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Just jack up the price of the Cutlass, they'll buy it anyway.
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Only Kindness posted:Interesting wrinkle that CInG employees are as bamboozled by their made-up-words-for-already-existing-things-but-rebranded-as-"revolutionary-tech" as the backers are. If they're hiring pool consists of the already-bamboozled, then it makes a whole lot more sense. Not just that they remain ignorant about reality, but also that nothing is moving forward because when Great Leader says that they are (or gives a reason why they're not), they are already conditioned to believe him.
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Aug 29, 2023 14:47
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Pretty sad that that is what someone who was unceremoniously laid off writes after labouring in the CIG mines for 7 years. How broke brain do you have to be to be on the inside for so long and still think that they're generating "revolutionary" technology. It's laughable. Not a single tool or system made for Star Citizen is going to be used in any other game, never mind for "generations to come". It does not matter how talented the developers are, they are still working within the constraints and requirements of a madman, there is no room for good ideas to float to the top.
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Aug 29, 2023 15:12
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Only Kindness posted:Interesting wrinkle that CInG employees are as bamboozled by their made-up-words-for-already-existing-things-but-rebranded-as-"revolutionary-tech" as the backers are. No one is willing to work for them except flavorade guzzlers and brand new graduates who don't know any better.
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Aug 29, 2023 15:16
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tfw your gaming tech is so advanced that you send your devs to hobo around industry conventions instead of showing it off to attract exposure/talent/money.
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FishMcCool posted:tfw your gaming tech is so advanced that you send your devs to hobo around industry conventions instead of showing it off to attract exposure/talent/money. Well yeah! Last time Chris showed off his revolutionary tech at a games conference, industry giants such as SEGA and Microprose and LucasArt stole his ideas so fast they ended up implementing it before he had even showed it off (SEGA stole it so fast it was implemented in mass-produced hardware less than a year later). Never again!  
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Aug 29, 2023 15:46
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quote:Prior to CIG I was a 9 year Customer Experience professional in digital media - I managed the entire pipelines from sales to CX to post-sale support and loved my job. quote:After the majority of my time at the company and my unique skillset and experience, I thought I would be valued more than purely my location at the end of my tenure. Oof. Explains why this guy thinks the tech is revolutionary. Sounds like he managed to piss off his bosses with his talk of “shipping the game” and “lowering prices”, and then he got fired for not getting the message and getting moved to somewhere where he wouldn’t go into meeting with these radical ideas. The fact that he still doesn’t understand definitely makes him a prime SC backer target though.
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Aug 29, 2023 16:35
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Star Citizer Server Meshing made it to the front page of HackerNews today. The faithful are out in droves and the Gell-Mann Amnesia is palpable.
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Aug 29, 2023 16:40
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Shazback posted:Some galaxy brain (in the thread Mirificus got that great message from) noted that SC has revolutionary tech "Camera-relative rendering". So... culling?
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Mellow_ posted:So... culling? Yes. But they had already used up the word “culling” in one of their other Jesus techs re-brandings (for bog-standard garbage collection), so of course some new name needs to be invented.
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CeeJee posted:Buying $1500 office chairs and very expensive desks is a sensible way to spend backer money as it can be recovered partially in the liquidation sale. I hadn't thought of that, but you're absolutely right. (My first thought was that it was just more of CIG's cargo-cult "successful game studio" behavior and a large helping of "The Backers Will Never Know.")
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Aug 29, 2023 19:20
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To be fair, the generations to come could be CIG developers... If money keeps coming in, this grift might end up spanning several generations ;o)
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Fangrim posted:To be fair, the generations to come could be CIG developers... If money keeps coming in, this grift might end up spanning several generations ;o) like the father and son who both fought in the same iraq war
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IAbsolveMyself posted:In lieu of a desperately needed "Hello" from The Agent.... Interesting news about the layoffs. It’s hard to tell how widespread they are, but it seems like double digits. It’s not all that surprising though. $600 million dollars seems like an obscene sum of money, but it’s pretty piss poor when stretched out over 11 years for a company the size of CIG, plus the millions that the Robertses are syphoning out of it. Whenever we do get glimpses of their financials, they’re always running up against their “pledges”. It’s not a shock that they had to quickly cost cut after the huge sums they spent on their stupid new office in Manchester.
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Fangrim posted:Edit: His post got removed by mods, but reinstated, as he confirmed his identity via Twitter (self-doxxed his identity). Lol that really sucks, but this dude is an idiot for drinking the KoolAid to that extent and slaving in the CIG mines for 7 loving years at probably way below the market rate, and thanking them for the honor after he’s sacked. Some people are just born to be rubes. CIG and the games industry in general feeds off of the naivety of super fans like him and squeezes every last bit of money and labor it can get out of them.
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colonelwest posted:CIG and the games industry in general feeds off of the naivety of super fans like him and squeezes every last bit of money and labor it can get out of them. You can't deny that CIG is getting exactly what they're paying for with their inexperienced, below-market-value teams of former baristas/QA testers, though. It's no wonder that every year they're making giant, industry-shaking strides like "what if a go-kart track, and maybe it even works?" or "what if we replaced the lovely space station with a bigger shittier space station that runs worse?"
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colonelwest posted:Interesting news about the layoffs. It’s hard to tell how widespread they are, but it seems like double digits. It’s not all that surprising though. $600 million dollars seems like an obscene sum of money, but it’s pretty piss poor when stretched out over 11 years for a company the size of CIG, plus the millions that the Robertses are syphoning out of it. Whenever we do get glimpses of their financials, they’re always running up against their “pledges”. It’s not a shock that they had to quickly cost cut after the huge sums they spent on their stupid new office in Manchester. in comparison as I like to do to my own life the company I work for also has offices in north america, europe, and APAC they have just announced today that there will be some lay-offs as a result of an organizational restructure - i believe the first and only time they've had to do so in their 50-60 years of operation the key differences are -we make products and sell them, turning a profit each quarter once we went public they hired madly to keep up with the huge growth of the company, and now they are doing the re-org to trim the fat and work smarter with what we have instead of just throwing people at the problem CIG is doing the opposite, throwing money into the wind that isn't even theirs, buying new fancy offices and all the fittings i wish the people laid off all the best but come on, the gravy train cannot run forever folks
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Money that's not mine is the best kind of money to throw into the wind!
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Aug 30, 2023 03:57
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Eric the Mauve posted:Money that's not mine is the best kind of money to throw into the wind! Plus, you can give yourself a high-paying job as a money-thrower, and set up a bunch of shell companies downwind of you to catch the money you throw. If you're really smart, you'll even pay yourself a nice bonus for coming up with the groundbreaking concept of throwing money into the wind in the first place!
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Guysguysguys, they did it! Star Citizen is preloading on Steam! It's, ohhhh, ignore me.......
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Money may be tight but still only the finest Barista made coffee for Croberts people… https://twitter.com/galaxt1ka/status/1696808487773233177?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg
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smellmycheese posted:Money may be tight but still only the finest Barista made coffee for Croberts people… Teach the barista to code and they might actually finish part of the game.
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smellmycheese posted:Money may be tight but still only the finest Barista made coffee for Croberts people… gives "thirst posting" a whole new meaning
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The real question...does the Frankfurt office have a garage door opener?
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Man, how many years ago was it that Bartender AI was supposed to be the great game-changer, ushering in a new generation of in-game reactive AI, before it was quietly delivered as "tier 0, only partly implemented until we get <Jesus Tech du jour> working, but I promise on our in-house Dev servers it works great"?
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Did they announce sentient bartender AI before or after the rise of ChatGPT?
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Randalor posted:Did they announce sentient bartender AI before or after the rise of ChatGPT? I’m just an AI language model, I can’t help you with that.
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