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A Moose posted:She's not that good at it though, is she? She's a 4-drop that fetches a swamp, and maybe lives to do it again Shes not, people just want that card for some reason
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A Moose posted:She's not that good at it though, is she? She's a 4-drop that fetches a swamp, and maybe lives to do it again She isn't, as far as I know, but I'm pretty sure she's in a weird middle ground between having a weird mechanical effect, only being from core sets people weren't desperate to open packs for and being a named character people would want to collect all the cards for that means she's worth more than she really should be.
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A Moose posted:She's not that good at it though, is she? She's a 4-drop that fetches a swamp, and maybe lives to do it again I imagine playing her on two after a turn one Sol Ring and getting to guarantee a few land drops is pretty good. Even gives you enough time to protect her.
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Aug 30, 2023 00:59
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I’m pretty sure every 4 drop is good if you can play it turn 2.
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Kadath posted:I’m pretty sure every 4 drop is good if you can play it turn 2. Not wood elemental 
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Aug 30, 2023 01:51
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Silhouette posted:Shes not, people just want that card for some reason ohhhhh, I get it, its for horny reasons. Just like Karlach Edit: In other news, apparently I have a Lake of the Dead also! This zombie deck is gonna be fun, I'm just going to win by swinging with piles of tokens. And I guess make tons of mana. So far I have a Lake of the Dead, Cabal Coffers, Urborg, fake Cabal Coffers that only works for basics, Nykthos, and Crypt of Agadeem. A Moose fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Aug 30, 2023 |
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Aug 30, 2023 03:20
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Man, wotc played it way too loving safe with Cabal Stronghold. It either needs a reduction in the activation cost, or removal of the "basic" rider or something. If it was 4,t: add B for each swamp you control, it'd be fine as a fixed coffers, or if it was 1,t: add B for each basic swamp you control it'd be okay
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Aug 30, 2023 04:22
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A Moose posted:ohhhhh, I get it, its for horny reasons. Just like Karlach People do want Karlach for horny reasons but Karlach is also a good card
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Aug 30, 2023 10:14
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So I ordered the Eldrazi precon deck because I loving love Eldrazi. I normally don't play commander - my normal playgroup just doesn't like it - but I've started playing with some buddies from work and they enjoy commander. I have four decks, all janky except a pricy sliver deck. I playtested it right out of the box and it seems solid. Missing some of my favorite big boys but I don't think I want to rob anything from either of my two normal Eldrazi decks... it's almost like it's 50/50 Eldrazi/Golems but it seemed to work. Played it against my sliver commander deck and it won after turning a manaweft sliver into an ox and essentially crippled the sliver deck's abilities to generate the colors it needed to work (a bad draw didn't help the sliver deck, for sure) Long-term I'm throwing some Spawnsires in there, some Pathrazers, maybe some of the titans if I can spare another set... What's the general consensus on this precon, or Eldrazi commander decks in general? I never play competitively and like I said, when I do play it's rarely commander, so I'm not familiar with the meta.
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Most of the BG3 character cards spiked some since the game came out. It helps that most people felt that the set they’re was bad, I guess, so they were low but now have gone up from demand.
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CornHolio posted:What's the general consensus on this precon, or Eldrazi commander decks in general? I never play competitively and like I said, when I do play it's rarely commander, so I'm not familiar with the meta. I've played against it a half dozen times and it's solid. It's good at presenting a "hockey stick" threat curve, you're doing absolutely nothing for the first 4 turns so someone else is the threat, then you're untapping 7+ colorless mana with a 2 mana discount on spells and cascading eldrazi nonsense. I'd expect it to play well at casual tables, even relatively high powered ones. TotalHell posted:Most of the BG3 character cards spiked some since the game came out. It helps that most people felt that the set they’re was bad, I guess, so they were low but now have gone up from demand. Stealing this idea but it was a missed opportunity for them to create pre-cons around each of them and get ahead of that demand. I play a Baldur's Gate commander though, so I'm a little biased.
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I still have a lot of fun with my modified Capn Nnngathrod Horror tribal, mill and steal your poo poo precon. Probably the cheapest precon to modify and make it super nasty. It never really dawned on me that CL: Baldur's Gate was also supposed to parallel the video game as well.
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JawnV6 posted:I've played against it a half dozen times and it's solid. It's good at presenting a "hockey stick" threat curve, you're doing absolutely nothing for the first 4 turns so someone else is the threat, then you're untapping 7+ colorless mana with a 2 mana discount on spells and cascading eldrazi nonsense. I'd expect it to play well at casual tables, even relatively high powered ones. I think they really missed a lot of timing/crossover synergy all around with MtG, BG3, and the movie. Commander seems an obvious place for tie in decks for their own IP but a nightmare to sync up I reckon
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Jiro posted:I still have a lot of fun with my modified Capn Nnngathrod Horror tribal, mill and steal your poo poo precon. Probably the cheapest precon to modify and make it super nasty. Yeah it seems like the set was crafted with the idea it would release alongside the game. Probably not the best bet trying to make something align with a video game release date.
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It's a shame that the movie tie-in was just a secret lair, because it's a lot of fun, and really goddamn funny. Those characters' cards deserve wider availability  Also the movie has one of the greatest playing-against-type cameos in history, Bradley Cooper as a halfling homebody 
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TotalHell posted:Yeah it seems like the set was crafted with the idea it would release alongside the game. Probably not the best bet trying to make something align with a video game release date. The game was out in EA with all of those characters for several years before the set came out though.
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JawnV6 posted:I've played against it a half dozen times and it's solid. It's good at presenting a "hockey stick" threat curve, you're doing absolutely nothing for the first 4 turns so someone else is the threat, then you're untapping 7+ colorless mana with a 2 mana discount on spells and cascading eldrazi nonsense. I'd expect it to play well at casual tables, even relatively high powered ones. I did find a pretty decent review here which kind of matches what I saw when I played. It also gives me a good idea of what needs to come out versus what should stay. I think I need to find a way to rely less on the commander and his double-cascade ability.
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A few of my friends from another tcg and I have been dabbling with Commander lately but one of them is spending way way more money on singles than the rest of us combined and I'm running out of way to skirt around teling him I don't think we're ever going to be playing commander together. I've offered to play Arena, draft tournaments, and even suggested we go to a pre release, but the dude is 20 and can't stop himself from playing obnoxious cards in games with far smaller card pools than Magic. He's really excited about it as well. 
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Redezga posted:A few of my friends from another tcg and I have been dabbling with Commander lately but one of them is spending way way more money on singles than the rest of us combined and I'm running out of way to skirt around teling him I don't think we're ever going to be playing commander together. I've offered to play Arena, draft tournaments, and even suggested we go to a pre release, but the dude is 20 and can't stop himself from playing obnoxious cards in games with far smaller card pools than Magic. He's really excited about it as well. Lol what games/cards does he play?
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Redezga posted:A few of my friends from another tcg and I have been dabbling with Commander lately but one of them is spending way way more money on singles than the rest of us combined and I'm running out of way to skirt around teling him I don't think we're ever going to be playing commander together. I've offered to play Arena, draft tournaments, and even suggested we go to a pre release, but the dude is 20 and can't stop himself from playing obnoxious cards in games with far smaller card pools than Magic. He's really excited about it as well. That's life, tbh. Not everyone chooses the same paths and makes the same decisions. It's a bummer for your playgroup in that sense, but he's going to just have to take higher-power commander play to a different group. Similar thing happened in my local cEDH group. Couple of my friends decided they weren't into it anymore and wanted to go play Modern instead, and I had no interest in following. So it goes. Stick to your boundaries and encourage him to play on your preferred style of Commander, and if he doesn't, tell him it just ain't happening.
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Redezga posted:A few of my friends from another tcg and I have been dabbling with Commander lately but one of them is spending way way more money on singles than the rest of us combined and I'm running out of way to skirt around teling him I don't think we're ever going to be playing commander together. I've offered to play Arena, draft tournaments, and even suggested we go to a pre release, but the dude is 20 and can't stop himself from playing obnoxious cards in games with far smaller card pools than Magic. He's really excited about it as well. Is it a money issue or the semi balance offered by budget limits? If it's the former there's really no reason to not embrace the many cheap or free ways to play with whatever card you want in commander.
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Batterypowered7 posted:Lol what games/cards does he play? His first game was Yugioh, lol. We met through Battle Spirits Saga which only just released its second set, but every other day he's posting a card in the group chat he's planning to buy that can create a <5 turn win condition unless every other play targets him. Framboise posted:That's life, tbh. Not everyone chooses the same paths and makes the same decisions. That's kind of the bummer of the situation. We all just wanted to play it to casually broaden our idea of tcgs. We actually have another guy in our group in his thirties who has been playing since he was 6 and has a $400,000 collection, but he refuses to play any of us out of fear of killing our interest in the game. He's been trying to guide the guy towards maybe trying to find a pod a bit more advanced, but because this 20 year old dude is very inexperienced and the idea of power levels is a semi loose concept its hard for him to give any solid directions out concern of again killing interest in playing Magic. Khanstant posted:Is it a money issue or the semi balance offered by budget limits? If it's the former there's really no reason to not embrace the many cheap or free ways to play with whatever card you want in commander. None of us are loaded but have semi decent disposal income for tcgs, but we're already all playing one or two others so picking up Magic was meant to be just sort of a casual thing because singles are mostly pretty affordable and commander really only demands you have one copy. He could feasibly scale down or just wait until we gradually scale up, but I know him well enough that he's not going to really know how to scale down without creating some sort of guarantee for himself. None of us are really knowledgable enough about Magic to really know what would be considered an overpowered card outside of looking up how much a single version of it would cost. He doesn't even want to be a toxic player, but his sole idea of avoiding being a toxic player is a personal choice not to play a blue deck. Redezga fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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Just play the game and raise concerns afterwards if it continues to be an issue, what's so hard about that
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You know what, you're probably right and I'm just overthinking it. If the balance ends up being truely out of whack and it can't be addressed for one reason or another at least we'll all be able to come to some tangible reason why.
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I vote you all Thoracle him repeatedly. The combo is like $20.
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Redezga posted:He doesn't even want to be a toxic player, but his sole idea of avoiding being a toxic player is a personal choice not to play a blue deck. Aphrodite posted:I vote you all Thoracle him repeatedly. The combo is like $20. Okay I’m on the power gamer’s side now
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Redezga posted:
Regardless of income, especially when just dipping in or new to a game, you don't know if you like a card as much as you think you might or not sometimes until you play with it. You can print out or write the cards rule text on a paper and stick it in a sleeve and it's as good as the real thing. Between games you can just scribble out a new card if you need to tweak your deck or try out something new. Sometimes your opponents have a card that would be perfect for your deck while you've drawn some turd in yours and why not make that deck adjustment with a price of paper and pen since you can? Price of cards doesn't really correlate reliably to toxicity or power level, and what feels toxic or sucky will depend on the group and vibe and phase of the moon. And a lot of it takes care of itself to an extent, winning and losing can be fun but you definitely know when you or what you're playing is just sucking the life out of the party and it sucks so you want to avoid it if you feel it.
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I threw this together for funsies, and I like how many microsynergies it has. https://archidekt.com/decks/5267662/lands_but_fun I feel like I need a few more pieces of interaction, and should make room for a beast within at a minimum. This is for a group that skews casual, so something like a mox diamond or a wheel would really stick out in terms of power. Is there anything obvious I’m missing in these colors? My maybe board has stuff like harrow, gamble, both of the tatiyovas, oracle of muldaya. I purposefully want to try a deck with no rocks, and based around lands but no landfall. The land pile is probably not super tuned, and is based around proxies I have to spare. meanolmrcloud fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Sep 1, 2023 |
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MFW not Moxfield:  This site don't even load the card images on the overview. Gamble is pretty cool as an extra copy of Life from the Loam, not sure what else it would be getting. I might swap around some of the ramp spells and lands to play more that cost 2 like Three Visits. If someone wanted to be pedantic Valakut Exploration has Landfall. Laelia the Blade Reforged is a good beater that gets a lot better with Valakut Exploration.
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Papa Was A Video Toaster posted:MFW not Moxfield: Awesome! It feels a little janky playing so few basics with more than a few cards that fetch strictly basics, but it also feels like a lot of the non-basics are pretty essential, and this can probably do enough with valakut in the late game. I’m very bad at building decks, and especially manabases.
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I love that Prismatic Omen has dropped down to like 2 dollars.
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Jiro posted:I love that Prismatic Omen has dropped down to like 2 dollars. I hope Anime Smothering Tithe goes down more in foil. It's sitting at $90 right now.
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I want the Japanese art Blood Moon so I can jam it into a Berserk themed deck
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Papa Was A Video Toaster posted:MFW not Moxfield: Yeah it does? (Also Archidekt does nice stuff like being able to drag cards over from Scryfall to add them to the deck)
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Got my bonus from work soooo put in a 280 MPC order and have started building my dargons (changelings) deck  still slowly upgrading my Jetmir as well, kinda wanna see just how competitive I can make him...Ordered Maldhound's treasure deck in the MPC order cause it looked hilarious
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https://youtu.be/z4EwOTdl7vU?si=Gq0o5i6W18jmCFZs Prof's breakdown of the precons along with making the point that the W/G precon has a bunch of the same reprints that the Abzan Enchantments precon has.
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I figured most precons from now on were just gonna be a fat chunk of reprints in each and all they'd do is swap commanders and slap it all in a new 80+ dollar set.
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