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I was the one bringing up Praise Petey earlier in the thread, glad other people have cottoned onto it. Also holy poo poo the end of the most recent episode was -not- the direction I thought the show was going to head in.
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So there's no active adventime time thread it seems like, found a big one but it's vaulted so I can't bump it. Just wrapping up season 5 of this, after a I dunno, decade+ long break. I really like it. It's basically got the kind of anarchic humour and cool fantasy/sci fi plot lines that appealed to me about something like Rick and Morty, but because it's ostensibily for kids it has a hard limit on how gross and bleak it can get. Still, there are many episodes that surprise my with how hosed up they are willing to let things be. Like for example in BMO lost, the whole last minute of Jake just casually popping the sentient bubble who asked BMO to get married, and then the following speech about how BMO will never have privacy again. LSP commited manslaughter while trying to wipe her bf's memory, and then PB wiped LSP's memory so he's forgotten. Plus most things PB is involved in. Even Finn and Jake who you would expect to be the moral centre occasionally get very weird. It's really nice to come back to this, find I enjoy it, and find that it continued on for 5 more seasons after I stopped watching. Kinda over Lemongrab though!
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I always thought of Peppermint Butler like a candy Nyarlathotep. Cool on the surface, but with questionable motives. I figure he started off as a cool bg character that was given more importance as the series went on, like the waving snail.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Eh, the stock photos subplot was worse. I stopped that episode in the middle and skipped ahead only to land in a wall only episode which I promptly skipped as well.
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I powered through the part of Harley Quinn Season 3 I was hung up on and unsurprisingly everything with Dad and Mayor Joker is way better than it has any right to be.
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roomtone posted:So there's no active adventime time thread it seems like, found a big one but it's vaulted so I can't bump it. Just wrapping up season 5 of this, after a I dunno, decade+ long break. Season 5 is so loving good god drat. Probably the “best” season of AT even if I prefer season 6, which I hope you post your thoughts on!
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Metalocalypse: Army of the Doomstar came out today. Just got done watching it. Frankly, I'm just glad we got anything as a conclusion to the series, but the fact that it was really, really good is a very nice bonus.
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MJeff posted:Metalocalypse: Army of the Doomstar came out today. Just got done watching it. Frankly, I'm just glad we got anything as a conclusion to the series, but the fact that it was really, really good is a very nice bonus. Seriously, the animation quality was finally fully realized. At times I thought I was watching Heavy Metal 2000, everyone got space to flesh out their stuff. Music was so so good, maybe not Doomstar Requiem good, but very excellent. I'm so happy this and Venture Bros. got an ending, it's a shame Jon Schnepp didn't live to see it. Jiro fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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I'm also glad Army of the Doomstar came out at all and gave the series a proper ending, but the movie didn't work as well for me. Overall I wasn't a big fan of Metalocalypse becoming sincere toward the end. All the prophecy/conspiracy stuff worked as a counterweight to how stupid, drunk and petty Dethklok was, and it was funny. The idea that these loving morons were the lynchpin of modern civilization and that their stupidity and callousness was making life on Earth demonstrably worse was the premise of the show as far as I was concerned. Bottom line, I wanted less saving the universe and Nathan's personal growth, more Skwizgar begrudgingly escorting Toki to the bathroom during a funeral.
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Okay I finished Final Space. Whoever said Adult Swim made them inject more humor in S2 and beyond, I don't know what that could possibly refer to because lol everything just gets super dark and intense and the laughs are few and far between. But they're well earned when they're there, more so than the S1 monkeycheese stuff. I'm not decided on whether that makes the show feel more generic-space-drama at the expense of its unique too-energetic guy-you-hate-at-the-office vibe, or if it's actually a really beautiful and powerful piece of storytelling and sci-fi mythmaking with some fantastic animation and a good level of well-placed humor and it stands on its own with plenty of originality. There are whole episodes that are just given over to pain and misery and processing grief. That's not something I would have predicted having only watched S1. It sucks that it ends the way it does, not because I can't live without seeing it wrapped up all tidy-like (because I can picture the rest of the story decently enough or at least guess at it), but more because it feels like a show that was really clicking on all cylinders and got its head sliced off right at the height of its momentum. I'm not gonna regain this hard drive space at all I guess
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Watched the Metalocalypse movie It's good. Quite good. It also needed to be twice as long. Thing moves way too fast, plot never has any time to breathe. Also had the same problem I had with Doomstar Requiem in that the vocals were mixed too low, or maybe Metalocalypse is just a place where my hearing damage from years at metal shows truly rears its head e: also feel a bit ripped off paying $20 for a one hour 'movie' Really just two episodes, even if it had a full season of content mashed into it Sockser fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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I really liked Praise Petey, it's an absurdist take on the romantic comedy format where a girl from the big city moves to the country to take over the family business and ends up finding love, except the family business is a cult. The humor is cartoonish, self-aware, and somewhat dark, but the show is also surprisingly sympathetic towards it's cast of characters and willing to acknowledge when the main lead is being a toxic narcissist. I didn't really enjoy Captain Fall. The animation was great, and a lot of the jokes really worked, but the characters are such vile people doing such vile things that it's hard to care about any of them or want them to succeed. Also, the show really wants you to feel bad about the main character's parents being emotionally neglectful, and yeah they do suck, but the main characters love interest literally sells people to human zoos, arranges for women to kidnapped and raped, and harvests body parts for profit so it's kind of hard to give a gently caress via comparison to all that poo poo.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I didn't really enjoy Captain Fall. The animation was great, and a lot of the jokes really worked, but the characters are such vile people doing such vile things that it's hard to care about any of them or want them to succeed. Also, the show really wants you to feel bad about the main character's parents being emotionally neglectful, and yeah they do suck, but the main characters love interest literally sells people to human zoos, arranges for women to kidnapped and raped, and harvests body parts for profit so it's kind of hard to give a gently caress via comparison to all that poo poo. Isn't this the same issue that underpins the helluva boss/hazbin hotel stuff?
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Data Graham posted:Okay I finished Final Space. The creator said he originally had a plot for 5-6 seasons and it's kind of a shame he'll never get to make it because as you said in season three the show really seemed to finally get what it wanted to be.
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Neeksy posted:Isn't this the same issue that underpins the helluva boss/hazbin hotel stuff? Not really no. Helluva Boss they honestly don’t really do much that’s morally black and when they do it’s mostly to other demons who are far worse or it’s maximally absurdist. Whereas Captain Fall is very much reveling in more ‘real’ monstrous poo poo, and human trafficking and rape are kiiiinda not very funny. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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Neeksy posted:Isn't this the same issue that underpins the helluva boss/hazbin hotel stuff? I could see other people having that problem with helluva boss/hazbin hotel, but for me it's not as much of an issue because it's played in such an over the top and cartoonish way that I can find the crimes and ultra violence funny. The goofy art style helps a lot with this as well. Meanwhile, in Captain Fall the crimes are played more straight and are way more specific than the "whacky murder shenanigans" you see in helluva boss/hazbin hotel and it ends up feeling a lot more unpleasant to watch. You really don't want to see the people who do these horrible things succeed, but they do over and over again and none of it is very funny.
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That makes sense. Shows have to establish what their moral baseline is, how they weigh the life/emotions of the characters, and if they are inconsistent about how lightly they treat life vs how much they want us to now care about the characters, it ends up with the tonal dissonance.
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I do think they were trying to avoid it by mostly keeping it to absurdist James Bond stuff. Harder to get angry about a human zoo where they make American people pantomime a diner scene for eternity to impress some dude's wife, or absurdist evil like an industrial tiger/gorilla processing line to make shockingly small amounts of money, etc. Doing a Taken 1 and kidnapping a woman for a forced marriage was kind of treated in-show as a different, deeply lovely thing. Which is maybe funny in and of itself when they were fine with giving a Russian Mafia boss uranium so that he could do a Lex Luthor plot. Kind of a mixed show that had its moments but didn't really come together right as a series, which is kind of a shame. It reminded me a lot of Archer when I was starting to get sick of the writing. I think around the Vice season. When everyone is such an awful fuckup who ruins everything they touch, it's hard to stay invested. Same thing here where everyone is so evil or stupid that it's a little hard to stay interested even if the jokes are decent and it had a nice look to it. Parakeet vs. Phone fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Aug 30, 2023 |
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Adult Swim is 13 hours of the CN 24 hour cycle now Okay That's Well that's weird but okay Surely this means that  Oh, okay only 3.5 hours of the 13 are AS original content So equal parts AS and American Dad very cool, Zaslav. e: Also gently caress Toonami, I guess, why not
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JethroMcB posted:It's cool that Ten Year Old Tom is getting on cable before it dies I guess That's at least one good thing. That show needs to be seen by more people yet I'm sure most people don't realize it exists.
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If any of you didn't know, that section of CN originals is known as Checkered Past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-YGjmnUpLw
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Is there any Animation for Adults that isn't just an excuse to be as violent and gory as possible? I'm not trolling, it's just that anything I've watched, outside of maybe Clone High if that counts, is just so full of blood and violence. I'm not against it, but if animation wants to be seen as something for adults too, adult = violence (or foul language or sex) is a childish definition.
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If its not got sex or violence in it, then its harder to define what makes it 'adult'. Sure, it can be targeted at adults, but its not much effort at that point to tone it down a little to pg-13 and target a broader audience. Thats where you get stuff like Lower Decks or YOLO Crystal Fantasy or Birdgirl or uh....Smiling Friends? Although that one was pretty dark.
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I do feel like adult animation does often feel the need to do some gore and death here and there to mark their territory (because they often can't throw around sex much to mark their territory even if they're under the adult label). Even something pretty tame like Futurama will feel the need to get nasty here and there, although I guess 90s Nickelodeon was nastier. There are some shows that are focused on actually-mature themes that children just wouldn't be interested in, as opposed to the mature content that we feel children need to be protected from. Stuff like Close Enough or King of the Hill.
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The newer Clone high really liked cheap violence in place of having more solid wit. Having gone back to watch the original recently, I notice just how badly the new one handled the characters.
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The Merkinman posted:Is there any Animation for Adults that isn't just an excuse to be as violent and gory as possible?
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The Merkinman posted:Is there any Animation for Adults that isn't just an excuse to be as violent and gory as possible?
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The Merkinman posted:Is there any Animation for Adults that isn't just an excuse to be as violent and gory as possible? 10 Year Old Tom and Life and Times of Tim don't have much violence in them. They also don't have much swearing and the animation is so bad sex stuff can only be talked about or hinted at. They are both still very much for adults.
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Even shows like American Dad don't really go into violence or gore as a regular joke, usually saving it for specific moments -because- of how much of a tonal shift it is.
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The Merkinman posted:Is there any Animation for Adults that isn't just an excuse to be as violent and gory as possible? The Simpsons, Mission Hill, Futurama, Venture Bros, Bob and Margaret, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Bob's Burgers, Royal Crackers, Inside Job, I could keep going
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  (ok the second one does have violence but it's good)   Princess Jellyfish, Rakugo Shinju The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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Sockser posted:The Simpsons, Mission Hill, Futurama, Venture Bros, Bob and Margaret, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Bob's Burgers, Royal Crackers, Inside Job, I'd say King of the Hill too but then I remembered that two-parter where Hank had to help his boss dispose of Debbie's corpse by chopping it up into little bits
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Venture Bros absolutely goes to the violence and gore well too. And the episode where The Monarch traumatises Captain Sunshine with paedophile imagery lmfao. The Merkinman posted:Is there any Animation for Adults that isn't just an excuse to be as violent and gory as possible? Praise Petey just aired. But, further afield, Ten Year Old Tom, Life and Times Of Tim, Close Enough (which is about as violent as Regular Show, which honestly might as well count itself given its characters are people in their 20s dealing with 20s stuff). Daria was intended to be for adults and it's not even particularly sexual. Though I think many people dismiss it as such because most of the characters are teens?
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Daria was intended for highschoolers
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Sockser posted:The Simpsons, Mission Hill, Futurama, Venture Bros, Bob and Margaret, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Bob's Burgers, Royal Crackers, Inside Job Aqua Teen definitely falls into the vein of early-00s Adult Swim shows that uses "edgy" violence and gore as punchlines. Carl is routinely dismembered, flayed, and mutilated for laughs. They did an entire episode whining about the censors having asked them to tone it down. It' by no means the core of the show but it sounds like the type of thing Merkinman is trying to avoid. Cream-of-Plenty posted:I'd say King of the Hill too but then I remembered that two-parter where Hank had to help his boss dispose of Debbie's corpse by chopping it up into little bits 
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Thanks for the suggestions. I realize after I posted I should have phrased it as "can you recommend any..." to make my intention more clear, I'm glad it was taken the way I intended regardless. I'm glad some of the suggestions are shows being created now and we're not in some phase of "adults want to watch animation stuff too? guess that means multiple people need to die gory deaths every episode, otherwise how will they know it's for adults?". It's funny, some of the suggestions I've even watched/am watching (e.g. Futurama) I guess my mind just ignored them. There are plenty of shows with the aforementioned qualities that I do enjoy, (Harley Quinn, Helluva Boss, Primal, etc). I just had a thought like "oh is the only alternative to this, shows that are for literal children?". I'm glad to be shown I was wrong.
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Sockser posted:Adult Swim is 13 hours of the CN 24 hour cycle now American Dad on Adult Swim does insanely good 18-49 ratings for its timeslot. It's legitimately up there with stuff like Big Bang Theory and Friends.
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