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jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Could be a rock. Could be a space artifact from an interstellar civilization seeking to make coded contact and prepare humanity for a great ascension to the stars.

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Could also be deez nutz.

These guys are such dumbasses lol

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

What if trash is aliens

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

GABA ghoul posted:

What if trash is aliens

brb gonna go gently caress an alien

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Yes it looks like a rock

But

What if?!

Punkinhead
Apr 2, 2015

It's an alien rock so I bet it's their drugs and the shadow government exists to bogart the good poo poo

Area 51 is a dispensary for the illuminati :tinfoil:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

jokes posted:

Could be a rock. Could be a space artifact from an interstellar civilization seeking to make coded contact and prepare humanity for a great ascension to the stars.

It kind've feels like "The pyramids/stonehenge/etc was made by aliens! You can't prove it wasn't!" for the modern generation.

I grew up in the 1970s when Erich von Daniken's bullshit was still wildly popular. It later turned out that he was a serial conman who'd been scamming people and embezzling businesses for decades before he got around to writing his books. When he finally got busted his excuse was "It's their fault for trusting me with the money"

quote:

Following his release, von Däniken became a manager of the Hotel Rosenhügel in Davos, Switzerland, during which time he wrote Chariots of the Gods? (German: Erinnerungen an die Zukunft, literally "Memories of the Future"), working on the manuscript late at night after the hotel's guests had retired. The draft of the book was turned down by several publishers. Econ Verlag (now part of Ullstein Verlag) was willing to publish the book after a complete reworking by a professional author, Utz Utermann, who used the pseudonym of Wilhelm Roggersdorf. Utermann was a former editor of the Nazi Party's newspaper Völkischer Beobachter and had been a Nazi bestselling author. The re-write of Chariots of the Gods? was accepted for publication early in 1967, but not printed until March 1968.[9] Against all expectations, the book gained widespread interest and became a bestseller. Von Däniken was paid 7 percent of the book's turnover, while 3 percent went to Utermann. In 1970, Der Spiegel referred to the hype over Däniken as Dänikitis.

In November 1968, von Däniken was arrested for fraud, after falsifying hotel records and credit references in order to take out loans for $130,000 over a period of twelve years. He used the money for foreign travel to research his book. Two years later, von Däniken was convicted for "repeated and sustained" embezzlement, fraud, and forgery, with the court ruling that the writer had been living a "playboy" lifestyle. He unsuccessfully entered a plea of nullity, on the grounds that his intentions were not malicious and that the credit institutions were at fault for failing adequately to research his references, and on 13 February 1970 he was sentenced to three and a half years imprisonment and was also fined 3,000 francs. He served one year of this sentence before being released.

His first book, Chariots of the Gods?, had been published by the time of his trial, and its sales allowed him to repay his debts and leave the hotel business. Von Däniken wrote his second book, Gods from Outer Space, while in prison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken#Early_life

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Star Trek man and swinging sex pervert Gene Roddenbery hated Chariots of the Gods. He hated the suggestion that human beings weren't capable of building pyramids or henges, or that you couldn't go from the backdoor to the front door.

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Pyramids are the start of large structure engineering. The first step of building something really enormous and stable is stacking smaller floors on larger floors in a pyramid.

Vakal
May 11, 2008

Dr. Fraiser Chain posted:

Pyramids are the start of large structure engineering. The first step of building something really enormous and stable is stacking smaller floors on larger floors in a pyramid.

Also another thing that often gets conveniently over looked is that there are more pyramids than just the three big ones at Giza.

There are smaller ones with the oldest being short with rounded tops. Then get larger and more "sharp" at the top as they got the building methods and designs hammer out.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Vakal posted:

Also another thing that often gets conveniently over looked is that there are more pyramids than just the three big ones at Giza.

There are smaller ones with the oldest being short with rounded tops. Then get larger and more "sharp" at the top as they got the building methods and designs hammer out.

Also we have written records of the Egyptian dudes who oversaw the building of some of the pyramids

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Yeah, but it would be cooler if it was aliens instead of dirt farmers. Didn't you see Stargate? That movie would have sucked if it was dirt farmers

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Also we have written records of the Egyptian dudes who oversaw the building of some of the pyramids

Plus the buried remains of the worker towns around the pyramid/temple complexes. Right down to graffiti complaining about the beer and the names of their worker groups.

“The Friends of Khufu Gang,” “Vigorous Gang, “Those Who Know Unas,” or the “Drunkards of Menkaure.”





Real world is so much cooler that the drivel these idiots cook up in their heads.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

It kind've feels like "The pyramids/stonehenge/etc was made by aliens! You can't prove it wasn't!" for the modern generation.

I grew up in the 1970s when Erich von Daniken's bullshit was still wildly popular. It later turned out that he was a serial conman who'd been scamming people and embezzling businesses for decades before he got around to writing his books. When he finally got busted his excuse was "It's their fault for trusting me with the money"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken#Early_life

Daniel Jackson was right!!!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

redshirt posted:

Daniel Jackson was right!!!

He just got real lucky his particular brand of crazy turned out to be right!

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
the vigorous gang are bastards

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Megillah Gorilla posted:

“The Friends of Khufu Gang,” “Vigorous Gang, “Those Who Know Unas,” or the “Drunkards of Menkaure.”

gently caress these are cool gangs

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Plus the buried remains of the worker towns around the pyramid/temple complexes. Right down to graffiti complaining about the beer and the names of their worker groups.

“The Friends of Khufu Gang,” “Vigorous Gang, “Those Who Know Unas,” or the “Drunkards of Menkaure.”





Real world is so much cooler that the drivel these idiots cook up in their heads.

drat Unas must've been really cool and/or hot

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Plus the buried remains of the worker towns around the pyramid/temple complexes. Right down to graffiti complaining about the beer and the names of their worker groups.

“The Friends of Khufu Gang,” “Vigorous Gang, “Those Who Know Unas,” or the “Drunkards of Menkaure.”





Real world is so much cooler that the drivel these idiots cook up in their heads.

That's badass lmao.

I went through a UFO phase as a kid and was never super sold on the pyramid thing. It only made sense in Saturday morning cartoon logic. The Mummy (1999) was a much more convincing fantastical account of how things went down in ancient Egypt.

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer

Megillah Gorilla posted:

“The Friends of Khufu Gang"

Members:
Khufu

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Megillah Gorilla posted:

“The Friends of Khufu Gang,”

loving suckups :argh:

(Khufu (aka Cheops) was the pharoah who commissioned the Great Pyramid)

Techno
Jul 13, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
Hello, Is there a consensus here on what UAPs might be?

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Techno posted:

Hello, Is there a consensus here on what UAPs might be?
There’s a song on the topic.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
Unas was also a pharoah. Not sure if he was hot or not.

NoiseAnnoys
May 17, 2010

Techno posted:

Hello, Is there a consensus here on what UAPs might be?

unidentified aerosolized poops

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

O-Qua Tangin Wann

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Techno posted:

Hello, Is there a consensus here on what UAPs might be?

Some are drones, some are amphetamine and sleep deprivation induced hallucinations, some are hardware or software artifacts, some we just don't know could be some badly understood natural phenomenon like ball lightning (some people even believe it could be visitors from another planet)

e: That's for the ones reported by the military. The civilian ones are all mass hysteria, drugs/alcohol, airplanes, drones, satellites, meteorites, experimental aircrafts or ball lightning

GABA ghoul fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Aug 31, 2023

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
They're actually ghosts piloting tiny tri-planes.

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
It's always a frisbee

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?
I have some background in aviation and materials science, so here's my thoughts:
* The mass of the objects could be quite large given the distance at which they appear observable to the unaided eye. Most of the footage we're seeing is just giving us better detail but clearly these are visible even without instrumentation.
* The energy demands to provide acceleration at the rates that we've seen must require extraordinary energy reserves contained within the hulls of the vessels. It's certainly at a scale unlike those otherwise observed in civilian crafts.
* Even stating those facts, the probability of the crafts being extraterrestrial seems low. My suspicion is that we are likely witnessing the same craft deployed in different areas, and that it's of earthly provenance.

So my un-sexy tl;dr is it's op's mom trying to perform jumping jacks

Techno
Jul 13, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
What do we think about the UAP hearings?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNgoul4vyDM

TLDR:

1- US is in possession of crashed UAPs and bodies
2- US has a reverse engineering program
3- There's a 90 year cover up / disinformation campaign targeting US population
4- There seems to be "an agreement" with NHIs (non human intelligence) and the US goverment

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

The aliens are American experimental aircraft that the "normal" US military is not privy to. This is why almost all UFO sightings happen in America, and the aliens from the 50s were a lot less sophisticated. Other countries have similar programs, but theirs loving suck by comparison and as a result every other country only has a relatively scant amount of sightings, and they tend to be using the scraps of American technology.

1) When you go from a low-pressure system to a high-pressure system a body becomes smaller, particularly if the pilots are under extreme stress to start with. Many of the bodies recovered are unrecognizable human corpses that had acclimated to the low-pressure upper atmosphere and then were shrunk when they fell to the ground (rapidly pressurized) and look like the 'greys' from science fiction. The bodies are unidentifiable because of damage and their genetics don't provide a match with any records because they were flying experimental aircraft and the govt had destroyed all identifying records on the pilots prior to their enrollment as experimental pilots. Haven't you ever wondered why they always look a lot like humans?

2) The US's experimental aircraft program is buried under such secrecy that the normal military has its own reverse-engineering program to reverse engineer American aircraft they otherwise have absolutely no record of. This is to ensure that the experimental aircraft program's information (which is absurdly far ahead of any contemporary aircraft) never ever leaves its walls except through normal channels.

3) The disinformation/coverup campaign is to protect the technological secrets of our experimental aircraft program and provide the foundation to easily and conveniently discredit anyone who leaks anything, ever. They also never abandoned the CIA-style "give people drugs to make them crazy" technique of discrediting leaks. The amount of actually crazy people and uninformed alien enthusiasts only helps the disinformation campaign because America's enemies will likely also believe that alien enthusiasts are crazy-- even when they're not.

4) The NHIs are, again, a clever ruse between the scientists and engineers of the experimental program and the US government. Since the US govt is full of elected officials who spiral in and out of power, giving information to anyone-- the president included-- is on a strictly need-to-know basis. As a consequence, when communication is necessary, the mere revelation that there is an experimental aircraft program would be too dangerous to allow America's enemies learn about so instead they claim the NHIs are communicating to a select few people through the filter of being an unknowable and alien entity so that the select few people who do communicate with the "NHIs" hold the communication and circumstance (and secrecy) sacred. An even smaller group knows that there are no aliens, it's just a convenient way to keep secrets.

jokes fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Aug 31, 2023

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Also, aliens are just angels

naem
May 29, 2011

after 90 years of reverse engineering wouldn’t we have like hover cars by now?

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo
Or at least hover dildos

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Why would the experimental program, whose goal is to maintain and expand a technological edge over everyone else, give the technology to anyone, ever?

The minute they actually use the technology it would become the state of the art. Instead, it's best to drip-feed old poo poo to American interests to maintain an American economic edge in technology. Private industry will simply never be able to keep up to this experimental program. A tech company would simply never be able to get the resources and funding and, most importantly, secrecy necessary to get to that point. Self-interest of capitalists means they'd sell information, not hoard it. Or the profit incentive would divert funding, etc.

If America were faced with a military defeat within its borders (lol, never gonna happen) we'd see absurd and rapid leaps in technology to win as the program gives the military bigger and better toys

jokes fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Aug 31, 2023

bees everywhere
Nov 19, 2002

jokes posted:

If America were faced with a military defeat within its borders (lol, never gonna happen) we'd see absurd and rapid leaps in technology to win.

There is a doctrinal term for that: Wartime Reserve Mode, or WARM

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

jokes posted:

Why would the experimental program, whose goal is to maintain and expand a technological edge over everyone else, give the technology to anyone, ever?

The minute they actually use the technology it would become the state of the art. Instead, it's best to drip-feed old poo poo to American interests to maintain an American economic edge in technology. Private industry will simply never be able to keep up to this experimental program. A tech company would simply never be able to get the resources and funding and, most importantly, secrecy necessary to get to that point. Self-interest of capitalists means they'd sell information, not hoard it. Or the profit incentive would divert funding, etc.

If America were faced with a military defeat within its borders (lol, never gonna happen) we'd see absurd and rapid leaps in technology to win as the program gives the military bigger and better toys

Yeah unfortunately its absolutely this. The warlike nature of humans precludes us for more quickly advancing into a new technological epoch.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
lol no

The military industrial complex couldn't even keep nuclear secrets from the Soviets for a hot minute. And I'm supposed to believe they've developed futuristic technology that no one else in the military knows about. Oh ok.

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ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

naem posted:

after 90 years of reverse engineering wouldn’t we have like hover cars by now?

Who's to say the aliens didn't bring us the wonders of cryptocurrency and barely functional self driving cars?

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