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redshirt posted:Alien 3 is a beautiful movie, but I'll never get over how it took the ending of Aliens and poo poo all over it. Ohhhh, fun premise: if the first 2 movies didn’t exist, how good would 3 be? Also, 
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Beautiful? lmao, it looks like poo poo from the second minute onwards. Grainy, poo poo smeared all over it making it the brownest film of the 90s, some dubious lens choices, embarrassing puppet and CG work, and hands down the ugliest of the Alien designs. Won't hear a word against the performances, and I don't even mind the story but it's appallingly ugly and amateurish looking at times.
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Aug 30, 2023 21:38
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The CGI was pretty bad.
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Aug 30, 2023 21:40
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Well it was directed by a perfume commercial director.
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Aug 30, 2023 21:43
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Pennywise the Frown posted:The CGI was pretty bad. The only CGI in the movie is the cracks on the Alien’s head before it explodes and dies. The blu ray assembly cut fixed some of the roughness of the rod puppet. Also I quite like the Alien design in A3.
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Aug 30, 2023 21:54
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Xenomrph posted:The only CGI in the movie is the cracks on the Alien’s head before it explodes and dies. Woah, it wasn't CGI when it was running and jumping on the walls? I thought I remember a clear shot of it jumping into a wall corner or something and it looked like CGI. edit: just watched 30 seconds of a video and the reason it appears to look so lovely is the compositing. It's a rod puppet, but doubtfully filmed under the same conditions as everyone else so it looks fake as poo poo. Worse than having a physical puppet right on the screen. Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Aug 30, 2023 |
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Aug 30, 2023 22:11
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Woah, it wasn't CGI when it was running and jumping on the walls? There wasn’t a lot any CGI used for the movie. The movie was released before Jurassic Park redefined CGI, so some really talented people used every old trick they had and a touch of CGI here and there to try and sell it. I think for 1992, they did pretty well. Hell, it was an Academy Award nominee for Best Visual Effects, even. Side note: this guy’s voice is about perfect for all the videos he makes about Aliens, Predators, and any combo thereof. https://youtu.be/1kmjUPEd1wg?si=niW3GAf7xxnc5myZ
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Aug 30, 2023 23:11
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For all its faults (especially the theatrical), Alien 3 has one of the best deaths in the franchise - the bit where the xeno kills Boggs, splattering his blood all over Golic, who wipes the blood away from his eyes to gaze upon the xeno snarling at him while the music builds up. The whole thing is just really well done.
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Aug 30, 2023 23:45
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Lord Ludikrous posted:For all its faults (especially the theatrical), Alien 3 has one of the best deaths in the franchise - the bit where the xeno kills Boggs, splattering his blood all over Golic, who wipes the blood away from his eyes to gaze upon the xeno snarling at him while the music builds up. The whole thing is just really well done. The close up shot of the Alien with Ripley after it kills Clemens is probably one of the most iconic moments of the series next to the first chestburst and "Get away from her you bitch!"
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Aug 31, 2023 15:35
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One of my favorites is when Morse goes "gently caress!" after a short pause when Andrews(?) gets hauled into the ceiling vent. I tried googling "alien 3 gently caress gif" and well, I should have known better. edit: here's a still from the scene 
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Aug 31, 2023 16:01
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Morton Haynice posted:Alien3 never gets enough respect. I understand the hate for killing Newt & Hicks, or the bad puppet compositing, but it still has easily half a dozen truly iconic moments. Yes. Also his funeral speech.
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Cessna posted:Yes. Oh yeah that's good too, with clips of the xeno "being born" added in.
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Aug 31, 2023 17:56
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I can never forgive alien 3 for killing newt and hicks.
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Sep 1, 2023 01:24
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Alien 3 is a good sequel to Alien, but a bad sequel to Aliens
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Pennywise the Frown posted:One of my favorites is when Morse goes "gently caress!" after a short pause when Andrews(?) gets hauled into the ceiling vent. It’s one of my all-time favorite moments from the franchise. I’ll never forget how hard we all laughed seeing it in the theater. https://youtu.be/cKY7ZFabTq8?si=pCYWdDtr9eMEmq8u
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skasion posted:Alien 3 is a good sequel to Alien, but a bad sequel to Aliens Alien3 would have been much better regarded as a standalone film within the Alien franchise, rather than a direct sequel to Aliens.
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edogawa rando posted:Alien3 would have been much better regarded as a standalone film within the Alien franchise, rather than a direct sequel to Aliens. I dunno. It killed off Ripley in a pretty metal way, which had to happen at some point. But then, well, we got Resurrection to... yeah. Anyways. Watch this up until at least 2 min 48 sec. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjQ2t_yNHQs
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madeintaipei posted:
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Android Apocalypse posted:Texas 2020 Just a leetle bit more CGI fuckery to make The Politician Cruz and it would be perfect.
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madeintaipei posted:I dunno. It killed off Ripley in a pretty metal way, which had to happen at some point. A fair chunk of the criticism stems it not really coping with having to live within the large shadow the previous two films casts, especially the way in which it treated Hicks and Newt. I feel like making it a standalone within the Alien universe would have offset a lot of those issues.
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Sep 1, 2023 05:21
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madeintaipei posted:Just a leetle bit more CGI fuckery to make The Politician Cruz and it would be perfect. It's Abbott, the aliens altered his brain and body so he could walk.
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Sep 1, 2023 05:28
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I'm not reading 300 pages, but have you guys talked about Batman: Dead End yet? It was a 8 minute short film shown at Comic Con in 2003 (2 whole years before Batman Begins) and it depicts Batman vs the Joker vs Aliens vs Predators and it does it VERY loving WELL. Kevin Smith said it was "possibly the truest, best Batman movie ever made," and in 2003 I would totally agree. Fan made explorations of nerdy IP's were still incredibly rare back then and the lighting, sets, and costumes were absolutely fantastic for that era and budget. The shot where Batman's cape retracts as he rises after a superhero landing is one of the most beautiful things ever recorded on film. If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about just watch the video. Batman fights a loving alien and it's awesome. https://youtu.be/PKPmNeZSjf8?feature=shared Fun Fact: The Joker was played by 'Boner' from Growing Pains shortly before he died.
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https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-16-2019/k2jnTa.mp4
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MrMojok posted:It’s one of my all-time favorite moments from the franchise. I’ll never forget how hard we all laughed seeing it in the theater. The scene afterward where the poor guy is cleaning up the mess and trying to avoid the vent. Gets me every time.
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Stunt-Puffin posted:I'm not reading 300 pages, but have you guys talked about Batman: Dead End yet? I remember a lot of copycats and pseudosequel projects spawned from it. Worlds Finest and Grayson were two of them.
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Red Rox posted:The scene afterward where the poor guy is cleaning up the mess and trying to avoid the vent. Gets me every time. He was ready to play Alien: Isolation
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I will also say that the first video linked upthread was an absolutely perfect representation of online dating today Hell, maybe the A3 video is also.
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Sep 1, 2023 08:51
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Stunt-Puffin posted:I'm not reading 300 pages, but have you guys talked about Batman: Dead End yet? I hadn’t heard of this, despite being Terminally Online since the mid-90s. I almost wish I hadn’t learned about it via the Aliens thread, because seeing a little Batman v. Joker scene suddenly going “oh, and here’s a Xenomorph” would have been beautiful to see without warning. Unironically the best batsuit put on film, bring back spandex you cowards.
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Is it ever explained in Resurrection how they got Ripley's DNA to clone her? I'm not gonna watch that pile of poo poo again fo find out.
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Sep 1, 2023 15:18
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I think she splattered blood when the alien queen burst out of her chest that managed to fly fifteen feet upward and land squarely on a corrugated metal walkway or some dumb poo poo
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Sep 1, 2023 15:34
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I don't think it's that big of a stretch to say they found some dna, I mean they could've just checked her sleeping pod. How they cloned both her and the alien with it is a bigger mystery imo 
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Mister Speaker posted:Is it ever explained in Resurrection how they got Ripley's DNA to clone her? I'm not gonna watch that pile of poo poo again fo find out. They presumably did routine blood draw on her when she was thawing out in hospital at the start of Aliens. If that didn’t become research material immediately, it sure did after the rest of her DNA fell into a vat of molten lead.
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Mister Speaker posted:Is it ever explained in Resurrection how they got Ripley's DNA to clone her? I'm not gonna watch that pile of poo poo again fo find out. IIRC they say they were able to do it from her cut off hair.
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edogawa rando posted:A fair chunk of the criticism stems it not really coping with having to live within the large shadow the previous two films casts, especially the way in which it treated Hicks and Newt. I feel like making it a standalone within the Alien universe would have offset a lot of those issues. I saw Alien 3 in theaters, without having seen Alien or Aliens yet, and I can tell you that it was awesome.
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Sep 1, 2023 17:04
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If companies don't have DNA testing or swabbing on actual real life Earth right now it's only a matter of time. I find the idea that Weyland-Yutani might have a full transcript of each employee's genome remarkably easy to imagine.
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Sep 1, 2023 17:14
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Sure but it would have to be a sample after she got impregnated
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They never actually say where the DNA came from, but the prevailing theory is that Clemens took some of her blood at the start of the movie. Also I’m going to meet Michael Biehn today!!!!
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Xenomrph posted:They never actually say where the DNA came from, but the prevailing theory is that Clemens took some of her blood at the start of the movie. Pretty sure there was a specific line in Resurrection where they mentioned using “blood and tissue samples from Fury 161”. Which yeah, makes perfect sense for a doctor simultaneously trying to diagnose a patient and identify them to collect, not even counting what the EEV might have collected either during the original journey or when Ripley used it to find the queen. And I know the alien life cycle theory post-Prometheus is that the facehugger injects a variant of the black goo to make the victim start generating the chestburster, so there being DNA changes that could be detected to reconstruct the queen in Ripley’s clone makes sense too.
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Xenomrph posted:They never actually say where the DNA came from, but the prevailing theory is that Clemens took some of her blood at the start of the movie. Loved that guy in Tombstone
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Biplane posted:Loved that guy in Far Cry: Blood Dragon
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