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So what I'm reading is this has the potential to be a great underdog story, or just another disappointing child that couldn't rise above its circumstances.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 03:57 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 15:27 |
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I remember when people were worried about the immune-evasive Mu in 2021, then Delta grabbed a few infectivity power-ups and Juggernaut-charged its way through the vaccines and to the top. It's good news that BA 2.86 doesn't appear especially infectious, but still bad that it's so antigenically distant from a recent dominant variant/upcoming vaccines. No reason something couldn't be both in the future, I don't think.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 03:59 |
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Zugzwang posted:I remember when people were worried about the immune-evasive Mu in 2021, then Delta grabbed a few infectivity power-ups and Juggernaut-charged its way through the vaccines and to the top. That's the fun part about multiple variants circulating at once and a population that's been infected multiple times so that their immune system is taxed to poo poo! They can have a months long sleepover in someone's lungs/gut/brain and swap mutations until they escape into Love living in a world-sized uncontrolled gain of function experiment.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 04:19 |
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Oracle posted:Love living in a world-sized uncontrolled gain of function experiment. The perfidious Wuhan EcoHealth Alliance (or whatever they’re called) strikes again!
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 04:22 |
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Oracle posted:That's the fun part about multiple variants circulating at once and a population that's been infected multiple times so that their immune system is taxed to poo poo! They can have a months long sleepover in someone's lungs/gut/brain and swap mutations until they escape into
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 04:22 |
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skooma512 posted:There's no guidance on exposure at work. There's no test site anymore. Employee health just has a voicemail to report a positive test. We're on our own. Lol lmao. Major hospital system, but you're on your own if you get sick. No COVID leave anymore either.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 04:22 |
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Don't worry though, coronaviruses have long linear genomes and thus evolve more slowly than influenza with its segmented genome.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 04:25 |
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Zugzwang posted:That and, I doubt there's any reason people can't be infected by multiple variants at once, particularly if they're going maskless to places with lots and lots of people. Then the viral RNA soup in their cells can do all sorts of fun recombining. well, yes, thus the whole 'they can have a sleepover' part.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 04:26 |
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biceps crimes posted:welcome to neurotically opening and closing windows throughout the day
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 04:39 |
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Zugzwang posted:I remember when people were worried about the immune-evasive Mu in 2021, then Delta grabbed a few infectivity power-ups and Juggernaut-charged its way through the vaccines and to the top. I barely paid attention to Mu, same with Kappa. They weren't that interesting to me. I was loving concerned about Gamma though. B.C. had a really loving bad outbreak of P.1 with employees at ski lodges and when cases were accelerating that whole region of Canada stopped sequencing completely "because it's all P.1." Of course because loads of people here do a quick jump across the boarder for spring skiing we had a really bad spike of it here too. It had the highest hospitalization rate we'd ever seen (6.8%), and it was the highest until XBB.1.16* and XBB.1.9.1*. I knew Delta was bad cause of India, and that it caused breakthrough infections with double-Pfizer vaccinated people because of the data from S'pore. But all I could focus on was that Gamma was in my backyard, was knocking a lot of people into the ICU, and it was increasing against Alpha until Delta knocked them both down. I think the last sample Washington had sequenced of Alpha was in Sept. of '21, and the last one of Gamma was taken three months after that in Dec. of '21 right before Omicron. It spun around China in June of '22 and apparently it was most recently sequenced from a person in Ireland in April of this year. Not only that but it seems to be a favorite with armadillos and white-tailed deer so who knows what sort of weird it's mutated into now. It's a loving stubborn rear end variant that seems to like popping up in other animals now. Weirdly happy to be wrong about it hitting us though. Seriously hoping BA.2.86 doesn't manifest into something worse. Gotta hope for something, right * these are most likely skewed high since fewer people outside of hospitals get PCR tests these days as compared to when PCR tests were more accessible and mostly free back in the first half of 2021.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 05:10 |
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Zugzwang posted:That and, I doubt there's any reason people can't be infected by multiple variants at once, particularly if they're going maskless to places with lots and lots of people. Then the viral RNA soup in their cells can do all sorts of fun recombining. The babies of the babies that were having babies are having more babies.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 05:12 |
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The Oldest Man posted:a lotta ya'll still don't get it
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 08:09 |
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Steve Yun posted:time to cancel the apocalypse Looks like the apocalypse is back on the menu boys
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 09:06 |
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kazmeyer posted:(for reference: that scene in Apollo 13 was probably the equivalent of like a 40,000-60,000 on the Aranet.) Technically, Apollo spacecraft had atmospheres of almost pure oxygen at low pressure. Aranet4 wouldn’t have given an accurate reading.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 09:24 |
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We Were 3.5 Years in Power: An American Tragedy family took an international flight and got got entire family positive kids are mild, meanwhile myself+spouse got hit hard using paxlovid and symptoms are gone still going through the course so we'll see how things go i'm sitting on another paxlovid course if need be
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 09:29 |
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Another friend of mine got got here in Australia. Well at least I assume so, the only indication so far is a social media post which just reads "IT'S NOT MILD "
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 09:33 |
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looking forward to my poo poo contributing to the next Washington state weekly wastewater update
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 09:36 |
Rochallor posted:some fuckhead ripped my mask off man what the gently caress.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 10:59 |
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DominoKitten posted:Speaking of CR Cubes and PC fans, I recently ran across some...very swank computer fan based CR kits at: https://www.cleanairkits.com/ and am sorely tempted to start replacing our duct taped behemoths with these sleeker ones. They cost a lot more upfront than duct taping a cube to a box fan, but they claim to "match CR Box capacities at 1/5 noise, 1/5 power, and half the footprint." Because they use so little electricity, you can even run them for hours off of a lithium power bank or a cigarette lighter adapter in your car or your laptop. And they've got a tiny double barrel personal HEPA that they say is super quiet and also will run on a power bank. It’s a good design. Air purifiers based on those little DC fans have significant noise/floor space/portability/energy advantages over box fan builds. You’re paying like a hundred and fifty bucks for someone to package together some fans and a PSU and LASER cut some fiberboard, but if that’s something that you’d rather pay for than DIY, go for it.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 11:14 |
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might be time to start carrying a spare mask in your pocket if people are going to start ripping them off your face, sheesh
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 11:16 |
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A friend of mine got got this week for the first time after managing to avoid it for 3.5 years inspite of having school-aged kids.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 11:16 |
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Rochallor posted:I've been debating whether or not to post about this just because of how rattled it left me, but I've been out traveling this week and when I was at Yellowstone, some fuckhead ripped my mask off in the parking lot. I had just been to see Old Faithful and was putting my bike back on the car when I heard some giggling, I turned around and two beefy dudes were there, one of them with his hand in my face. I was too surprised for any kind of witty retort, so I just batted him away and got in my van. goddamn that's awful, I'm so sorry
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 11:21 |
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Steve Yun posted:might be time to start carrying a spare mask in your pocket if people are going to start ripping them off your face, sheesh This but it’s me in a VFlex 9105 with a 8110S underneath.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 11:28 |
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Sounds bad, but consider: No doctors => no beds => no hospitalizations. That's just good public health economics. "First major survey of doctors with Long Covid reveals debilitating impact on health, life and work" https://www.bma.org.uk/bma-media-ce...health-services posted:Lost jobs, lost income, debilitating symptoms that render even the most mundane tasks near-impossible, and huge barriers to accessing treatment: these are the repeated stories of UK doctors living with Long Covid, in response to a major survey from the BMA.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 12:54 |
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I sometimes wonder if so-called "fact checks" are doing more harm than good. Either of these seem to push exposure to the bullshit to an audience that probably hadn't heard about the nonsense going on down the rabbithole, more so than correcting their perception of something they've already heard.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 13:03 |
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Just for the headline:https://www.opb.org/article/2023/08/31/oregon-kids-return-school-viruses-covid-rsv-flu-measles/ posted:Oregon kids return to school — and the festival of viruses begins
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 13:06 |
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I wonder if brain fog is more pervasive than is shown in the data? Going off from the elderly who get dementia and/or alzheimer, they develop strategies to cover up their senility since there is a huge stigma in our society and they don't want to be embarrassed. Like there are folks who always tell stories of their grandparents who they suspected they were losing senility for years before the elder gets much worse and they finally get diagnosed. I'm sure younger people who got brain fog is also doing the same thing without knowing it because ain't nobody want to admit or show that they've got dumber in public at all.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 13:11 |
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Tzen posted:We Were 3.5 Years in Power: An American Tragedy Fingers crossed. Taking an 11 hour flight, direct. However, going to be in business class, and juiced up with Flo Travel and my N95.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 13:16 |
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NeonPunk posted:I wonder if brain fog is more pervasive than is shown in the data? Going off from the elderly who get dementia and/or alzheimer, they develop strategies to cover up their senility since there is a huge stigma in our society and they don't want to be embarrassed. Like there are folks who always tell stories of their grandparents who they suspected they were losing senility for years before the elder gets much worse and they finally get diagnosed. I'm sure younger people who got brain fog is also doing the same thing without knowing it because ain't nobody want to admit or show that they've got dumber in public at all. You have that, but also it is particularly difficult to assess with young people (particularly children), because you don't have an established baseline of behavior. Moody and lazy teens are a trope for a reason, so how do you disentangle long COVID from normal behavior without biomarkers? - and would you even consider a doctors visit, unless it is at the extreme (like a recent article I posted where the child slept for days)? While the ongoing mental health crisis in teens could be due to *gestures at the world*, I think that is also how PASC in children would manifest - moody, depressed, angry etc. I am not saying it is due to PASC mind you, as there is certainly good reason to believe there would be a mental health crisis either way, but I am saying it is difficult to disentangle PASC from that when talking children.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 13:34 |
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Zantie posted:I barely paid attention to Mu, same with Kappa. They weren't that interesting to me. I was loving concerned about Gamma though. Tzen posted:We Were 3.5 Years in Power: An American Tragedy Pingui posted:Sounds bad, but consider: No doctors => no beds => no hospitalizations. That's just good public health economics.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 13:43 |
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Zugzwang posted:(..) Yeah, it is pretty dire. The UK has been closing the gap by hiring HCW's in former colonies, which in turn have their healthcare systems going from poor to non-existent. It helps the UK (and other industrialized countries that are doing the same) pave over the problems in the short term, but it is neither ethical, nor sustainable. Edit to add a news report about the brain drain. This is the description: "Nigeria's doctors are heading abroad in huge numbers. In 2021, the World Health Organization reported Nigeria had just 4 doctors for every 10,000 people - an already dire situation. But since then, things have worsened rapidly. The Nigerian Medical Association says there's now only 1 doctor per 10,000 people. And that's left hospitals desperately short of staff." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNvu01OGv-Y That's 3/4 of the country's doctors leaving in 2 years... Pingui has issued a correction as of 14:07 on Sep 1, 2023 |
# ? Sep 1, 2023 14:02 |
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Pingui posted:Yeah, it is pretty dire. The UK has been closing the gap by hiring HCW's in former colonies, which in turn have their healthcare systems going from poor to non-existent. It helps the UK (and other industrialized countries that are doing the same) pave over the problems in the short term, but it is neither ethical, nor sustainable. Oh well, if things were really that bad, then somebody would do something about it.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 14:13 |
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This is the fault of everyone seeking second opinions.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 14:24 |
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Pingui posted:Yeah, it is pretty dire. The UK has been closing the gap by hiring HCW's in former colonies, which in turn have their healthcare systems going from poor to non-existent. It helps the UK (and other industrialized countries that are doing the same) pave over the problems in the short term, but it is neither ethical, nor sustainable. that is quite devastating for a country of Nigeria’s size. many people don’t realize Nigeria has more people than Brazil.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 14:24 |
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Tzen posted:We Were 3.5 Years in Power: An American Tragedy aww dang feel better and take the second course anyway imo, it's good enough for tony faucet
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 14:36 |
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Only the kid has ever popped positive on a test at this point (a molecular the day after symptoms started and a rat the following day), and she's now negative on repeat RATs and a molecular. Goes back to school on Tuesday. In talking to her teachers something like 1/3 -> 1/2 of all their kids are out sick atm. Things are going great. She had trouble getting out of bed when she was at her sickest and I overheard her claiming she was asymptomatic to her friends, lol.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 14:43 |
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This article indirectly raises an interesting point, namely that in regards to "of COVID" versus "with COVID", the "with COVID" hospitalizations would see a large drop compared to earlier waves, because hospitals are no longer testing everyone, but rather a small subset.https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/01/health/covid-case-data-wave/index.html posted:It seems like everyone has Covid-19. Here’s why this wave is probably worse than official data suggests Regarding Biobot data, this is what they are talking about : But by region that seems less like a leveling off, except in the South: Pingui has issued a correction as of 16:00 on Sep 1, 2023 |
# ? Sep 1, 2023 14:58 |
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Pingui posted:Covid certainly didn't take a vacation this summer drat, even diseases are suffering in this economy
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 15:16 |
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a friends seven year old has been in school a week and now has strep AND Covid where's the goddamn life expectancy numbers cdc, how thoroughly have you failed in your mandate
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 15:18 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 15:27 |
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Gunshow Poophole posted:a friends seven year old has been in school a week and now has strep AND Covid Just like every bad political story, they're going to drop it this late afternoon right before when everyone is going to ignore the news because c'mon man, it's freaking Labor day weekend!
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 15:21 |