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Luv2hav my airfield in Pskov bombed on the daily
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Sep 1, 2023 07:13
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:No joke, how many Russian soldiers are going to straight die from starvation or malnutrition this winter? Tai posted:Kinda gross talking like this. It's akin to talking about how much genocide Russia will comit if they conquer Ukraine. Obviously the evidence of this is made up and Bucha never happened. I disagree. The gross part is not talking like this. It is factually stated without embellishment as far as I can see. The gross part is that it's been done, and that there seems to be no reason to expect it to not be done again. Russia is sending a flood of poor people to die in misery and cause as much misery as possible to innocent bystanders as they can along the way, to rape, pillage, and murder, and claim none of it happens already while it happens. They can't even bother to send clothes and food along, and when the puddles freeze up they die of thirst. It's beyond hosed up. This is all very unnecessary. It was never necessary, and it could stop at any point. Putin could stop it at any point, but he does not, because that would expose Putin to increased personal risk. The was was started by Putin to reduce personal risk to his own person, in the authoritarian factional sycophantic loyalistic competitive lying death system that is Russia, and it is being perpetuated for the same reason. Without the lie of an external threat, and the opportunity it presents to feed internal threats into a meat grinder, Putin would be lost. This is totally worth hundreds of thousands of lives, and untold misery in terms of famine and conditions incompatible with life for millions more, to Putin, so therefore, this hell goes on. And that is the gross part.
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Sep 1, 2023 07:14
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I have blown up some IL-72 that were in Pskov and which you were probably saving for paradrops Forgive me they were too tempting so large and so flammable
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Sep 1, 2023 07:29
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The account TatarigamiUA posted a series of tweets (condensed here into a single page) that cast serious doubt on western analysts' proclamations that the Ukrainian assault has failed. In a nutshell, many analysts focus on the tank ditches and dragons teeth visible from above. Based on that they declare that the assault has failed because it stalled before it even reached "the first" defensive line. The issue is that based on shelling patterns, the tank ditches aren't really important. The fighting is from treeline to treeline, windbreak to windbreak, much like the battle of the hedgerows of Normandy in WWII. Jasper Tin Neck fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Sep 1, 2023 |
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Sep 1, 2023 07:33
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Rust Martialis posted:I have blown up burma shave
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Sep 1, 2023 07:34
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:The TatarigamiUA posted a series of tweets (condensed here into a single page) that cast serious doubt on western analysts' proclamations that the Ukrainian assault has failed. My take throughout this war is that western powers have done all the analysis and theory behind how they would undertake a war like this, but ultimately it's just not how it actually works in this case. Ukraine has had to improvise as they go along and are drat good at it. The US, et al, just can't think like that because they're not in it.
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Sep 1, 2023 07:38
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The russian ruling class are vermin. As some might say, putin is a real piece of poo poo (who defiles his own pantaloons on the reg).
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Sep 1, 2023 07:50
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naem posted:Ukrainian M.A.S.H.
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Sep 1, 2023 07:56
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Sep 1, 2023 07:56
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I'm not sure helicopters are the best for this? What are they going to do, strafe the drone with autocannons from point blank? Nevertheless, still better than shooting down drones with S-300s, which is something we've seen on multiple occasions, I think.
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Sep 1, 2023 08:43
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Air defense result from last night https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1697485384144322811#m
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Sep 1, 2023 08:55
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lmfao at this stuff and that it somehow was not 100% obvious to everyone that Ukraine was invariably going to get their own guided drone production going
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Sep 1, 2023 09:09
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Grammarchist posted:The Night Witches done got their jobs automated. Now I'm waiting for a Sabaton song about the Cardboard heroes. 
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Sep 1, 2023 09:11
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Issaries posted:Now I'm waiting for a Sabaton song about the Cardboard heroes. Remember they played for Putins biker gang.
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Sep 1, 2023 09:35
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steinrokkan posted:I'm not sure helicopters are the best for this? What are they going to do, strafe the drone with autocannons from point blank? Russia used a helicopter
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Sep 1, 2023 10:17
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steinrokkan posted:I'm not sure helicopters are the best for this? What are they going to do, strafe the drone with autocannons from point blank? Attack helicopters are pretty good for hunting slow, cheap drones. They have nice swiveling, stabilized gun turret, can fly slowly and usually have IR sensors. Israel uses their Apaches to patrol for Hezbollah drones and other slow-movers. Few years ago Apache smoked unresponsive Cessna 172 with Hellfire, and I seem to remember IR footage of Apache shooting down a drone with cannon in a different incident.
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Sep 1, 2023 10:37
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Gervasius posted:Attack helicopters are pretty good for hunting slow, cheap drones. They have nice swiveling, stabilized gun turret, can fly slowly and usually have IR sensors. I think the point is that Russia is strafing drones over built up areas rather than in open desert areas with minimal buildings
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Sep 1, 2023 11:22
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Tai posted:I think the point is that Russia is strafing drones over built up areas rather than in open desert areas with minimal buildings According to the video, it was over water near Crimea. Russia does a lot of stupid things, this isn't one of them.
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Sep 1, 2023 11:30
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Alan Smithee posted:Russia used a helicopter  Russians used a Pantsir 
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Sep 1, 2023 11:40
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Gervasius posted:According to the video, it was over water near Crimea. Russia does a lot of stupid things, this isn't one of them. There's also a video of them doing it over houses. I guess that is what I was thinking the original post was referring to rather than the over the water one.
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Sep 1, 2023 12:11
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steinrokkan posted:I'm not sure helicopters are the best for this? What are they going to do, strafe the drone with autocannons from point blank? Choppers would be one of the better ways of shooting down slower drones. Planes would move too fast for a decent gun run.
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Sep 1, 2023 12:19
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1697553036128760000#m -1 more Ka-52.
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Sep 1, 2023 12:21
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Guys I just walked by Prigohzin in Costco. He was grabbing a chicken bake Please post your sources
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Sep 1, 2023 12:23
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spiritual bypass posted:Please post your sources Can't be true, I saw Tupac, Elvis, and Kobain spitting on Pizzy in Croatia.
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Sep 1, 2023 12:40
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I saw prig and Tupac in the closet making babies and one of the babies looked at me
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Sep 1, 2023 12:42
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https://twitter.com/romankulish/status/1697496555698491573 I love these flying pizza boxes e: Ooops, this was a reconnaissance drone, not a pizza box, and was able to land back at base safely
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Sep 1, 2023 13:01
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When Costco CEO says he'll kill you if you raise the price of the hot dog he's a hero of the working class when Prigozhin does it everyone laughs what gives fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/romankulish/status/1697496555698491573 it all just comes back to costco
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Sep 1, 2023 13:12
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Not actually too surprising, fast movers have serious trouble hitting small, slow flying things with guns. And most gunships aren't really made for the job either if they also have to keep their distance in case there's payload on the drone. Iirc Israel has used some in the role, but everyone is kind of winging it with those drones.
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Sep 1, 2023 13:14
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Alan Smithee posted:
Always has been.
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Sep 1, 2023 13:15
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Antigravitas posted:Not actually too surprising, fast movers have serious trouble hitting small, slow flying things with guns. And most gunships aren't really made for the job either if they also have to keep their distance in case there's payload on the drone. Iirc Israel has used some in the role, but everyone is kind of winging it with those drones. Obviously the solutions is other drones with machine guns on them, but don't tell russia 
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Sep 1, 2023 13:22
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mobby_6kl posted:Obviously the solutions is other drones with Shotguns on them, but don't tell russia FTFY
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Sep 1, 2023 13:39
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mobby_6kl posted:Obviously the solutions is other drones with machine guns on them, but don't tell russia NOW who was wasting their time getting good in all those WW2 flight sims, DAD
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Sep 1, 2023 13:40
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i mean obviously the optimal compromise between cost and efficacy would be a babushka on a jetpack with a combat broom germany would provide the brooms. to both sides
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Sep 1, 2023 13:43
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Ukraine will absolutely find a way to start yeeting drones in to helicopters that are sent out on interception missions. I doubt that the Hind and Havoc gunships have proximity fused ammunition, so shooting down a moving drone from a moving helicopter won't be easy, and let's not pretend they have avionics and fire control systems like even the 90's Apaches have.
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Sep 1, 2023 13:49
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DandyLion posted:FTFY 
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Sep 1, 2023 13:56
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You need a big gun for hunting CEOs.
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Sep 1, 2023 13:59
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Antigravitas posted:Not actually too surprising, fast movers have serious trouble hitting small, slow flying things with guns. And most gunships aren't really made for the job either if they also have to keep their distance in case there's payload on the drone. Iirc Israel has used some in the role, but everyone is kind of winging it with those drones. 
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Sep 1, 2023 14:16
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Hmmm. Can shoot 90 degrees. That makes it artillery right? Ps, German keyboard is weird. The y is on bottom left.
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Sep 1, 2023 14:24
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Bernard McFacknutah posted:Ukraine will absolutely find a way to start yeeting drones in to helicopters that are sent out on interception missions.
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Sep 1, 2023 14:25
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Interesting take by Zeihan on the recent drone strike. https://youtu.be/CN-W_IKapmQ?si=doRwlHMQu-3sgxDg
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Sep 1, 2023 14:31
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