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Skyrim hasn't crawled to that. It has been there for a while but the entire jenga tower is built off arthmoor's closed source black box "fixes" mod. With starfield nexus stepped in to never allow that poo poo to happen in the first place.
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docbeard posted:I'm mostly of the opinion that Arthmoor's mods aren't great but they mostly aren't horrible and I will never ever ever have to interact with the guy directly so ultimately who cares, but that's a very solid team working on the Starfield community patch and I expect good things (and also some fun drama). Arthmoor also hated if you patched his mods the wrong way - see GateGate.
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Arthmoor hated if you used Mod Organizer. It was raw files in data or you're doing things wrong.
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Oh, I'm aware, and he also hates it if you extract BSAs. His hatred doesn't really affect me one way or the other though (which he hates).
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what is parlor style
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Aug 31, 2023 19:09
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Parlor: My mod is my mod and you need permission to do anything with it. Cathedral: My mod is our mod and you can take the bits to use in your mod if you want. I think that's the broad distinction.
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Aug 31, 2023 19:14
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Tankbuster posted:Skyrim hasn't crawled to that. It has been there for a while but the entire jenga tower is built off arthmoor's closed source black box "fixes" mod. With starfield nexus stepped in to never allow that poo poo to happen in the first place. Right, but the ultimate point is eventually arthmoor types get excised from communities because he sucks and I'm glad his contributions to Starfield, whatever they may be, will have justified skepticism. There is no place for scrubs like him and glad that more people see it the same way. VostokProgram posted:what is parlor style It's in the name. Parlor is a bunch of people making little separate parlors with their own rules. Cathedral is everyone building a single giant magnificent cathedral with the shared idea of everyone contributes to the greater good. Since how games are played is you have a single game at any one time modding any game is always better than cathedral since the gameplay experience you have is a single, grand, intoxicating KakerMix fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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I got a deal on the Anniversary Edition so I got all the Creation Club poo poo and my modlist seems to have integrated things well enough. Those pets are still not really worth much but you can't stop me from pretending that they make my adopted daughter happy. What little girl don't want an entire menagerie of fuzzy friends. Spiders included.
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The fox pet is surprisingly useful. You can tell it to find valuables nearby, so if a gold and diamond ring fell off a table due to physics and you can’t see it, the fox will nab it for you.
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Aug 31, 2023 21:12
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The spider keeps producing venom so she's useful to any build that's not focused on alchemy, I never managed to find a situation were I'd actually use her web trap ability though. All the rest would only be marginally useful at best.
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Arivia posted:Called what? The only mod i can think of called Cathedral is I think there's an ENB preset called Cathedral Lighting or Cathedral Weathers or something? The "Cathedral" mods are basically community mods. You can see all the pieces of mods that go into them in a list.
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KakerMix posted:Right, but the ultimate point is eventually arthmoor types get excised from communities because he sucks and I'm glad his contributions to Starfield, whatever they may be, will have justified skepticism. Arthmoor went into self-imposed exile because nexus took his toys away (his own idea of patches)
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Midnight Voyager posted:The "Cathedral" mods are basically community mods. You can see all the pieces of mods that go into them in a list. That’s neat
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KakerMix posted:TLDR: Made a .zip file one time and called it 'Technic Pack' for Minecraft and rode that into a very lucrative career for my friends and I all because we told would-be arthmoors that end-users are more important than they are. Thanks for that. I can still remember just how loving awesome that poo poo was at the time. Hats off to you Goon Sire 
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I recently returned to Skyrim, and installed Wabbajack / The Phoenix Flavour, which was decent but too close to the original so I'm looking for goon recommendations. My requirements are: 1) Has Legacy of the Dragonborn 2) Not so graphic-demanding 3) Not too hard 4) No survival mods. I looked at reddit but I could only find Licentia so far, which is NSFW. I don't mind it if there's no other choice, but is there anything else I should check first?
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Mod by hand! 
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Eeepies posted:I recently returned to Skyrim, and installed Wabbajack / The Phoenix Flavour, which was decent but too close to the original so I'm looking for goon recommendations. My requirements are: https://github.com/Lost-Outpost/sovngarde
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Hey that's the one I use since it was adapted for GOG. It rebalances most things well but you do get some early quest rewards that have been now nerfed to vendor trash. And the difficulty ramps up considerably after 10th level or so. Also it expends the world to fit the plot, i.e. you'll see plenty of refugees around because the empire is crumbling.
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Thank you! I'll bookmark this for now. Agents are GO! posted:Mod by hand! The last time I tried this I spent so long making the modlist I was too tired to play the game by the time it was done...
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Eeepies posted:I recently returned to Skyrim, and installed Wabbajack / The Phoenix Flavour, which was decent but too close to the original so I'm looking for goon recommendations. My requirements are: you can completely ignore the NSFW stuff in licentia though.
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Eeepies posted:Thank you! I'll bookmark this for now. That's the secret: you're never done. I actually just got my setup updated. I've been running a roughly similar set of mods for like a decade at this point. Like a third of them are weird bespoke little conversions of obscure Oldrim mods.
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Are there any good mod guides for oblivion?
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Being real, for all the incredibly cool mods that have come about since I last really looked into modding Skyrim, I think I love the ability to actually have fuzzy horses best.   
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https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/99548 Doodlum and co's next big thing.
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Well don't leave us hanging, post the link to the horsies.
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By popular demand posted:Well don't leave us hanging, post the link to the horsies. Whoops, sorry, it's Fluffworks with the Immersive Horses patch.
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VostokProgram posted:what is parlor style https://wryemusings.com/Cathedral%20vs.%20Parlor.html 20 years ago in the Morrowind days from the original author of Wyre Bash (which apparently is still maintained by the community though superior tooling [MO2, xEdit, etc] now does it better) lurksion fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Sep 2, 2023 |
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wrye bash excels at making dummy esps.
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I think every serious modding guide for Morrowind recommends using wyrebash for certain things, even if you're using mod organizer an xedit for a lot of other things wyrebash does.
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Well mainly coming from the perspective of Skyrim. I don't think there's anything Skyrim needs from Bash.
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Wrye Bash is brilliant. It's only recently with Synthesis patches and Gator Smash we're back to having the controlled plugin merge functionality bashed patches gave us years ago. It's a pity that bash wasn't really maintained as new fields were added in the post-Oblivion games. As a package manager, MO is better technically because it keeps packages separate and creates a merged, virtual Data folder at launch. Wrye Bash maintained an actual Data folder so it was much slower if you, say, deleted a mod that had overrides and itself overrode other mods - it was forced to reinstall those other mods to account for the files disappearing in the middle so to speak. But in terms of actual package management functionally, it was brilliant - just lacked the cool virtual filesystem stuff in MO. I miss its dense but readable UI, which is so well designed. It's just a brilliantly written program all around. But no longer relevant, of course, though still useful for FNV of you want to merge via bash tags.
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I always assumed Wrye picked up the name from the Cathedral and Bazaar paper for open source, which amongst other things talks about how many contributors are better than one when it comes to code: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
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I was about to take SkyClimb out of my load order because it kept getting me super stuck, to where I couldn't even TCL out of it, but it turned out that I hosed up setting up Nemesis. SkyClimb owns. Also, powerofthree(?) made a magic-sneak-attack SKSE plug in and I love it.
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i felt the hankering for a crazy modded skryim playthrough after playing a bit of starfield so I installed Tempus Maledictum and man I forgot how fun LotD + the full Enairim suite of mods is.
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yeah memes aside wabbajack is a godsend to quickly get back into the game.
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Are there any good wabbajack collections for VR? Just something that gets all the various see-your-own-body weapons-have-presence etc modifications going with some UI improvements to get a good baseline going with minimum fuss? Also, assuming there is, can you add mods on top of a wabbajack install? Or is it a one and done sort of deal?
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I don’t know about VR lists, but you can add your own mods to a wabbajack install. The product is the same as if you’d done it yourself, it just automatically sets up everything for you. (Or almost everything, sometimes you have to configure some in-game stuff yourself.)
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Swedish Thaumocracy posted:Are there any good wabbajack collections for VR? Just something that gets all the various see-your-own-body weapons-have-presence etc modifications going with some UI improvements to get a good baseline going with minimum fuss? There are a few, all from what I've seen very technically impressive but with often differing design philosophies. Here's a post I made about my experience in the VR thread, though it's six months old by now and the situation may have changed: Bremen posted:I've been trying this with Wabbajack modlists. I later seemed to solve the crash issue with the recommended page file changes.
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Adding mods to a Wabbajack list is exactly like adding mods to your own custom setup, for good and ill. If you're comfortable with finding and fixing conflicts with xEdit and MO2, configuring and running Synthesis, Dyndolod, bash, etc, and all of that stuff, then customizing a Wabbajack list is no big deal. If you're not, you're probably going to break things, and usually the list Discord won't help you much to fix it.
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holy i forgot how many perk trees there were in enairaim/ordinator, my god, how does one decide. I'll probably just be a wizard
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