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Vitamean posted:past few years I've thought to myself that an ff14 version of the fighting game glossary would be pro. something you could type in a term and get a concise description and possibly a link to a short clip of the mechanic. for terms with multiple uses like braindead you could expand out definitions for each use. Right now I think the best version we have of this is the Aether PF site, which is slow to update and only covers content released in Endwalker. That would absolutely be useful but the problem is that people want to sequester information to Discord, and like so many other games this loving destroys the ability for information to proliferate or be easily accessible.
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Endorph posted:id rate the alliance raids (ignoring endwalker because they havent been around long enough) I know you're purposefully ignoring Endwalker on this list, but I'd be curious where you'd put them. For me, I think they're both "mostly just boring" category.
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ImpAtom posted:That would absolutely be useful but the problem is that people want to sequester information to Discord, and like so many other games this loving destroys the ability for information to proliferate or be easily accessible.
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Sep 1, 2023 17:57
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YggiDee posted:I think that's Makeplace Thanks friend
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Nessus posted:What is the value for sequestering that information? Would there be value in just, like, copy-pasting that stuff or would you get booted from the stratz discords for it? people don't want to pay for website hosting, there's no specific reason things get squirreled away on discords besides immediate convenience
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Sep 1, 2023 17:58
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There is no value in it, unless it's people trying to run their own internet fiefdoms. It's just what nearly every community out there does now. You probably could just copy/paste it, but where would you put it? It all takes more effort than discord pins.
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ImpAtom posted:That would absolutely be useful but the problem is that people want to sequester information to Discord, and like so many other games this loving destroys the ability for information to proliferate or be easily accessible. I mean it's not really that people want to, so much as that Discord is a free and at least relatively stable place to store information. Other methods generally have sort of cost involved. Like, yeah, I could make a blog or a wiki or whatever but that involves hosting costs and other administrative overhead. Pinning a message in Discord does not. E:F,B
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Sep 1, 2023 18:02
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I've been learning p12s p1 on black mage and there's a couple of strats for placing your leylines during paradigma 3, but it's not really named in a handy way ("fun strat?") and it's sequestered four levels deep in the BLM encounter forums on the balance discord. the expectation that you need to join the balance discord for anything beyond basic broad strats is stupid, especially when a lot of resources that are posted and pinned aren't transcribed onto their worthless website.
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Sep 1, 2023 18:04
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Just got around to doing the event, man Kupo Kupo Adventure was super fun. I'd love to play a full game of it
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Sep 1, 2023 18:07
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I did P10S with standard movement + auto face on, it's not hard to not fall off the bridge. Just do your GCD right before you step on the bridge and it'll come off right as you're done with crossing the bridge.
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Sep 1, 2023 18:09
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Chillgamesh posted:Just got around to doing the event, man Kupo Kupo Adventure was super fun. I'd love to play a full game of it
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Sep 1, 2023 18:12
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Bruceski posted:--Line attack at all players, so they need to avoid standing in a line. Original did this in number order (Ravana), but the term also gets used for when it attacks everyone at once (Hades, Emerald 2)
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Sep 1, 2023 18:16
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Yeah those are definitely proteans. Maybe sword dance if you started raiding in Stormblood.
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Sep 1, 2023 18:23
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the most offensive is calling an 8 person spread on cardinals and intercardinals a clock
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aers posted:the most offensive is calling an 8 person spread on cardinals and intercardinals a clock Boss relative clock positions is the true calling.
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Limit Cut isn't even actually the number dots mechanic in Cruise Chaser, it's a +10% damage up cast that exists in normal mode too!
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Sep 1, 2023 18:35
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For me it would be: sometimes i will queue these outside of roulette just for fun: Aglaia dun scaith orbonne fun: rabanastre puppets bunker fine: weeping city Euphrosyne mostly just boring: paradigms breach copied factory lighthouse good god please dont make me run this again im begging you ilvl manipulation should result in a permaban: WoD Void Ark labyrinth of the ancients syrcus tower Think the most controversial choice here will be ranking Ridorana so low. Everyone will say come on, mathbot is a top tier boss! And mathbot is a top tier boss. Math bot is one of the best bosses in the entire game. The problem is that the other 3 bosses are really bland. I actually can't even remember the first bosses name, tried to remember it but I'm stuck with demi-aquarius.
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Axle_Stukov posted:Limit Cut isn't even actually the number dots mechanic in Cruise Chaser, it's a +10% damage up cast that exists in normal mode too! The Yanxia S Rank, Gamma, casts this Limit Cut and I always /panic when it does.
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Ibblebibble posted:I did P10S with standard movement + auto face on, it's not hard to not fall off the bridge. Just do your GCD right before you step on the bridge and it'll come off right as you're done with crossing the bridge. I play MCH and I have to heat blast with weaves while crossing, which complicates things. What I ended up doing was just stutter-stepping across rather than trying to do it all in one motion. There’s a lot of time to get across, and I’ve never stepped off or failed to be in position for the first bonds debuff by being careful. It’s scary, but (If we stay cool, everything will be fine!)
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Are we doing adr ratings again, hell yeah. The Best: Dun Scaith Really Good: Euphrosyne Ridorana Lighthouse Aglaia Good but I wish it was the above: Orbonne Monastery Weeping City of Mhach Royal City of Rabanastre Not Great: Crystal Tower Bad: Labyrinth of the Ancients World of Darkness Void Ark I'm leaving the raid if I see this: Copied Factory Puppet's Bunker Tower at Paradigm's Breach
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Genuinely enjoy these: Ridorana Lighthouse Orbonne Monastery Puppet's Bunker Tower at Paradigm's Breach They're not great, but at least they're quick: Syrcus Tower Labyrinth of the Ancients Void Ark They're fine: Weeping City of Mhach Royal City of Rabanastre Copied Factory They're not bad, but they're slow: Dun Scaith World of Darkness I find these to be tremendously boring, bordering on extreme dislike: Euphrosyne Aglaia
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jalapeno_dude posted:these are proteans, I have literally never seen anyone call them limit cuts?????? I run with idiots. (I am not an exception)
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As far as P10S, I'm still progging it (up to Harrowing Hells as filler on another prog, my personal static is at Skulls) and I find I can do webs all right almost all of the time, but then I'll suddenly start slipping off constantly and can't tell that I'm doing anything different. The screwups come in clumps.
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Mister Olympus posted:except chariot/dynamo communicates quickly and cleanly because the concept of "circle aoe this big, then donut aoe with a hole the size of the circle in a variant or subsequent mechanic" recurs extremely often. not every orange circle is a chariot, it's only a chariot if it's paired with a dynamo as some type of fight gimmick. the consistency of the relative sizes and the two paired together is what makes it useful shorthand i found extremely few people actually use chariot and dynamo for call-outs because the english language already has the words "out" and "in" to convey the same information much more clearly and cleanly
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you do mostly see them used in guides and writeups than in midfight communication
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quote:I find these to be tremendously boring, bordering on extreme dislike: The amount of dislike for these kinda surprises me. Difficulty wise, most of the alliance raids seem to be pretty even so I rank them purely by spectacle and music and holy poo poo do these deliver in spades on both fronts.
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Vitamean posted:come play ff14 we have Mariokart was the one that I didn't understand for the longest time. Still hate it
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Ibblebibble posted:I did P10S with standard movement + auto face on, it's not hard to not fall off the bridge. Just do your GCD right before you step on the bridge and it'll come off right as you're done with crossing the bridge. or just jump then do your gcd/ogcd. your momentum won't change direction cause of the attack. thats what i do sometimes. most of the time i just wait til i'm across because i'm a tank and i don't care about uptime Mister Olympus posted:except chariot/dynamo communicates quickly and cleanly because the concept of "circle aoe this big, then donut aoe with a hole the size of the circle in a variant or subsequent mechanic" recurs extremely often. not every orange circle is a chariot, it's only a chariot if it's paired with a dynamo as some type of fight gimmick. the consistency of the relative sizes and the two paired together is what makes it useful shorthand chariot and dynamo are horrible calls because how the gently caress are you supposed to know which one is which. the words have nothing to do with what you have to do to dodge it, they're arbitrary and meaningless. just say in or out. Kerrzhe fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Sep 1, 2023 |
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Mr. Neutron posted:The amount of dislike for these kinda surprises me. Difficulty wise, most of the alliance raids seem to be pretty even so I rank them purely by spectacle and music and holy poo poo do these deliver in spades on both fronts. There was a bit of discussion on this in the spoiler thread, but I just am really really down on the EW alliance raids in general. - I don't think the bosses are mechanically interesting at all. If anything, they kinda feel a step back from the NieR raids in terms of complexity. - The bosses don't provide any challenge either. Granted, this can be said for most older alliance raids, but I've run each raid probably 5 times, most of the time incredibly stoned, and know none of the mechanics and it hasn't caused any issue ever. - I don't really feel like there is much in the way of spectacle during the fights. The Stormblood raids still remain king in this regard IMO. - I'm not listening to in-game music beyond the first run, so that does nothing for me. - The biggest problem I have with the alliance raids (and this is my own particular pet peeve) is just the sense of space - there isn't any. The 8man raids are what I go when I want a bunch of disconnected boss arenas. With the 24mans, I want it to feel like I'm exploring a big space. Again, the Stormblood raids are probably the best in this regard, but all of the others still do this well - except EW. Both of the EW raids are basically disconnected boss arenas with no sense of moving through a large environment. They feel more like the Star Trek Holodeck and that loving sucks imo.
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Imagine complaining about the EW raids feeling like the holodeck and then preferring Tower at Paradigm's Breach
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Lisztless posted:Imagine complaining about the EW raids feeling like the holodeck and then preferring Tower at Paradigm's Breach The elevator ride in Tower is better than any content in the EW raids.
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You may be the first person I've ever seen go "You know what is missing from raids? The boring canals segment where you have to swim around from Stormblood."
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Mordiceius posted:The elevator ride in Tower is better than any content in the EW raids. The part with two bag-of-hp enemies with precisely three simple mechanics? And I guess some slow balls thrown in at the end.
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Kerrzhe posted:most of the time i just wait til i'm across because i'm a tank and i don't care about uptime
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I want more raids to have water slides The FFT raids are a masterpiece
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Mordiceius posted:The elevator ride in Tower is better than any content in the EW raids. nice bit
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Alliance raid, beach episode edition where the final boss is a convoluted volleyball match: the DPS stack damage to spike the ball and when the boss spikes it back it's a shared tank buster.
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paradigm's breach is the most hell-is-other-people raid in all of ff14. you could queue into it, leave immediately and eat a 30 minute queue restriction penalty, wait, queue up for literally any other roulette except msq, and still finish before an average paradigm's breach alliance does
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i like factory and bunker but i really hate tower.
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Tower is too long and I don't get what the final boss is supposed to be a reference to. There were no trains in Nier:Automata 
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