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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:same, never liked her music much and maybe this is weird but to me she just seems like she's like...... not a person? like she's a human facsimile created by the music industry and PR pros. idk her whole public image just seems so ~managed~ it's v weird to me, tho i confess (again) to not listening to much of her music closely or following her much apart from my sister and a few friends being #swifties this is funny in that it's the exact opposite of what a hardcore fan would say: that she's the most personable and down-to-earth celebrity of literally all time. i think it's neat that she writes most or all of her own music but all her fans that i've met are the most basic white women ever so i never really dove into the discography. the sexy baby song she put out last year is weird but catchy
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:goons don't understand popular thing. yeah. I don't understand the appeal of hydrogen bonds but w/e I guess it works for some people
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indigi posted:yeah. I don't understand the appeal of hydrogen bonds but w/e I guess it works for some people Lol
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you can tell that taylor swift is in the big leagues because goons say "i don't understand taylor swift" but they'll still admit to knowing who she is, whereas if you post about cardi b or something 10-12 goons will pop up to say "who tf is cardi b"
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I get Taylor Swift. What I don't get is her popularity went from "popular" to like "most popular" musician, in the span of a few years. I'm not entirely sure what prompted her ascendance from stardom to godlike stardom. This isn't a "I don't like her music" thing, it's a "how did that marketing happen?" question.
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Nichael posted:I get Taylor Swift. What I don't get is her popularity went from "popular" to like "most popular" musician, in the span of a few years. I'm not entirely sure what prompted her ascendance from stardom to godlike stardom. she's widely seen as completely genuine by her fans and that instills a lot of loyalty. she's the biggest pop star since michael jackson, maybe even bigger, and beyond her music it's just been a process of very careful image management. the kim kardashian 'famous' drama was basically her only blemish in their eyes
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Nichael posted:I get Taylor Swift. What I don't get is her popularity went from "popular" to like "most popular" musician, in the span of a few years. I'm not entirely sure what prompted her ascendance from stardom to godlike stardom. she took down a dude who sexually assaulted her and ruined his career. now she's re-recording all of her albums after some dude stole her original recordings from her. she's girl boss incarnate.
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Nichael posted:I get Taylor Swift. What I don't get is her popularity went from "popular" to like "most popular" musician, in the span of a few years. I'm not entirely sure what prompted her ascendance from stardom to godlike stardom. https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1697476730397811047?s=20 quote:Details behind Taylor Swift's Deal With AMC to distribute her Eras Tour concert film.
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Aglet56 posted:you can tell that taylor swift is in the big leagues because goons say "i don't understand taylor swift" but they'll still admit to knowing who she is, whereas if you post about cardi b or something 10-12 goons will pop up to say "who tf is cardi b" cardi owns and is ftw
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Thanks for the answers. I think her recent extreme rise in profile is pretty interesting.
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Nichael posted:I get Taylor Swift. What I don't get is her popularity went from "popular" to like "most popular" musician, in the span of a few years. I'm not entirely sure what prompted her ascendance from stardom to godlike stardom.
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Femur posted:Kanye Oh right. I forgot he interrupted her specifically because it just kind of exists in my brain as "I'm gonna let you finish but"
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christmas boots posted:so the lady was anakin’s apprentice during the clone wars stuff so you’d think maybe there’s something interesting you could do with that since they both knew him on such a personal level but why would we do that? action figures go! Wow I did not feel those vibes from that scene. It looked like 2 low level couriers passing something that one of the sides needed, with Luke Skywalker inexplicably being a low level courier.
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:she took down a dude who sexually assaulted her and ruined his career. good for her
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Nichael posted:lThis isn't a "I don't like her music" thing, it's a "how did that marketing happen?" question. the answer (close to what I say swears said) is legit “they deliberately made the marketing happen”. honestly it took me until now to realize it but it’s close to a Dwayne Johnson situation. VERY cultivated image, always needs to look good and never weak, actually IS a seemingly genuine person, and then the machine runs itself. just like the Rock, Taylor swift the person is as much of not more of a draw than the actual content she produces in a way
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yeah I think it's cool that she completely destroyed the guy who grabbed her rear end and I wish it happened every day.
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1glitch0 posted:Wow I did not feel those vibes from that scene. It looked like 2 low level couriers passing something that one of the sides needed, with Luke Skywalker inexplicably being a low level courier. yeah, iirc she was his apprentice and then some poo poo happened and she got framed for treason and put on trial, got acquitted but was so fed up with the Jedi poo poo she bounced. while she was gone order 66 happened and anakin became darth Vader so when she shows up again years later she doesn’t know for a while that it’s him so there’s a whole thing where she finds out and it’s devestating and he tries to kill her and she only escapes because of time travel bullshit. and now she’s met his *son* of all people who not only finally stopped him but managed to do the thing everyone had given up on and turn him away from the dark side. I’m not saying this is high art but it’s easy to imagine the potential of finally having these two characters meet and do something with all this history they have with vader and instead it’s… this wet fart imo
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I took my girls to see Taytay earlier in her career, back when she played guitar on most (all?) songs. She was doing one night in the entire state, and busted out multiple songs from state artists, just her and the guitar. I’ve never seen anybody bother to do that before, was genuinely impressed. Played really well too, not just caged or cowboy chords but the interesting things good musicians oft do where they change the fretting and slip in minors or d7 or whatever to keep it interesting. FWIW she also called out the band member that helped her write her songs.
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Nichael posted:I get Taylor Swift. What I don't get is her popularity went from "popular" to like "most popular" musician, in the span of a few years. I'm not entirely sure what prompted her ascendance from stardom to godlike stardom. A decade of very good marketing like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3yyF31jbKo
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Nichael posted:I get Taylor Swift. What I don't get is her popularity went from "popular" to like "most popular" musician, in the span of a few years. I'm not entirely sure what prompted her ascendance from stardom to godlike stardom. for the past decade she's marketed herself as wrongly persecuted, from Kanye to Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, Demi Lovato, to all her exes (a few of whom she actively hosed with but spun it as an innocent mistake when they pointed this out). there's probably half a dozen I'm missing. she's the apotheosis of every white girl's fantasy about their own lives (and it involves righteous anger at famous black people)
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:star wars chat is worse than snyder chat both should be banned and all participants swiftly executed imo
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:yeah I think it's cool that she completely destroyed the guy who grabbed her rear end and I wish it happened every day. this does extremely own btw. I like Taylor's music well enough, she's reliable for a hooky pop song. and it's nice that she was able to destroy her assaulter
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:she's girl boss incarnate. indigi posted:this does extremely own btw. I like Taylor's music well enough, she's reliable for a hooky pop song. and it's nice that she was able to destroy her assaulter im guessing tho her music is also relatable, like because her fans have emotions, instead of just them thinking she's cool veepfake has issued a correction as of 20:30 on Sep 1, 2023 |
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christmas boots posted:yeah, iirc she was his apprentice and then some poo poo happened and she got framed for treason and put on trial, got acquitted but was so fed up with the Jedi poo poo she bounced. while she was gone order 66 happened and anakin became darth Vader so when she shows up again years later she doesn’t know for a while that it’s him so there’s a whole thing where she finds out and it’s devestating and he tries to kill her and she only escapes because of time travel bullshit. thought this was bout swift until I got to Jedi
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lol foundation "gently caress, i'm the left hand!"
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Some Guy TT posted:didnt someone in this thread or somewhere say that the plot of the original magic the gathering is just some epic duel between wizards and the cards represent all the crazy poo poo they can do why cant the movie just be about that Yea, the players were the Planeswalkers, using cards to force fantasy poo poo to do stuff for you. But, with a few exceptions, the old sets told the story of the weatherlite saga, which still has world building to explain why phyrexia is a thing, and was cooler and cheesier in the best ways.
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indigi posted:for the past decade she's marketed herself as wrongly persecuted, from Kanye to Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, Demi Lovato, to all her exes (a few of whom she actively hosed with but spun it as an innocent mistake when they pointed this out). there's probably half a dozen I'm missing. she's the apotheosis of every white girl's fantasy about their own lives (and it involves righteous anger at famous black people)
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indigi posted:for the past decade she's marketed herself as wrongly persecuted, from Kanye to Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, Demi Lovato, to all her exes (a few of whom she actively hosed with but spun it as an innocent mistake when they pointed this out). there's probably half a dozen I'm missing. she's the apotheosis of every white girl's fantasy about their own lives (and it involves righteous anger at famous black people) the phone recording drama was legit funny since the very first time i ever heard of swift was the "imma let you finish" interruption
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I should clarify that I also did not fail to understand that Taylor Swift is a popular musician and people would like to attend her concerts, I just didn't think that "movie-formatted recorded concert from a popular musician" was as big business as it apparently is, because those have existed for decades and are niche content like, someone mentioned Michael Jackson earlier and I don't think Moonwalker was that big e: I looked it up and Moonwalker had a $67 million box office in 1988 which is about $173 million in 2023 dollars, which compared to other 2023 film box office totals would put it somewhere between Scream VI and Sound of Freedom. Not bad at all really. But Moonwalker wasn't just a concert recording either, it was more like a 90-minute music video
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swift also charges like $1500 for a loving concert ticket so i can see the economics making a concert movie more viable for the normies
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Popy posted:kanye was right
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i actually watched an illicit twitch stream from her recent tour and the event was very interactive for the fans. there are secret motions and shibboleths and costumes and things you're supposed to yell at the right time. it's a ton of inertia that probably works the same as a mild cult to get people to drop that much money. the concert was like 5 hours though
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i say swears online posted:swift also charges like $1500 for a loving concert ticket so i can see the economics making a concert movie more viable for the normies It's a mark of how uniquely bourg Hamilton is/was that they didn't just tape a performance and throw it up on Netflix in like 2017
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RandolphCarter posted:thought this was bout swift until I got to Jedi AFAIK taylor swift has never been tried for treason however there was a taylor swift fan account on twitter whos owner went to prison for a bit for refusing to serve in the idf.
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