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SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Roosevelt Dead?

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bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Haha, glad to see life is treating you well Tuckems Swanson. You're really moving up in the world now. How's that ol' ego feeling these days?

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
God there’s going to be so many conspiracy theories when the overweight 77 year old keels over

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

God there’s going to be so many conspiracy theories when the overweight 77 year old keels over

I was thinking about that the other day as well. Surely he will be spirited away to where JFK Jr. is, fighting the deep state cabal from the shadows

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
lol at rich as gently caress people, and their tiny ego and their need to want to be some sort of supa star.

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

God drat, there is nothing funnier than Tim Pool inviting Emma Vigeland to learn microstakes poker after the show they did together, only for her to leave before seeing a single flop on the felt or in his skatepark. Rude!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

parthenocarpy posted:

God drat, there is nothing funnier than Tim Pool inviting Emma Vigeland to learn microstakes poker after the show they did together, only for her to leave before seeing a single flop on the felt or in his skatepark. Rude!

There's this running joke that the next time a guest doesn't fall for Tim Pools bullshit debate bro tactics he's just going to accuse Sam Seder of putting them up to it for engagement. He got so mad when Emma suggested his rhetoric was inspiring mass shooters.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
Been seeing noise about this lately in Canada. Right wing cranks are saying the whole mass graves thing was fabricated to justify burning down some churches.
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1697992287173955897?t=0iZS9VChxoIhh0xDVzE6aA&s=19

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

What would a Tim Pool date be like?

* Thirty minutes of introductions by way of playing each person's latest releases. If the girl doesn't have any releases, that's okay. She can listen.
* Two hours of microstakes poker. If the girl doesn't know how to play poker, she is given an additional hour of meticulous instruction and grid tables to memorize by rote
* A feature presentation of 2,000 mules on a 32" plasma television followed by a knowledge quiz
* A short lecture on the misguided nature of women's suffrage with a Q&A session interrupted by an expectation of sex

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Can any woman in the thread sound off about how big of a red flag the beanie is, all on its own?

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Every now and again I listen to these people and the ones that call in going on about their freedoms being violated and what have you. WTF are they not free to do, say, buy, go, write, work at, vote for, and so forth? Seriously, I'm totally not sure where they think their freedoms are being violated. Youtube, of all people, saying "yeah, this is a bit much, even for us?"

Certainly, there's no shortage of gun availability and no one is taking any of them away. There's no draft. There are no vaccine mandates. One can home school if they want. There's more than enough RWM news outlets to tell "the real story" that no one is talking about or reporting.

Every and all "violations of free speech" are individual companies (that are people, my friend) implementing internal corporate guidelines and employers doing such and such, which they claim to support, up until it doesn't go their way. In addition to a free society calling out Dave Chapelle and Roseanne Barr. Folks can say what they want - celebrities and what have you - and, far as I know, a person can choose not to stream their content, listen to their music or view their movies. Or buy lovely beer or not.

The Law and Order party who worship cops suddenly hates the power of law enforcement and our unfair justice system now that insurrectionist nazis are being locked up and the law is being applied to them.

I think they feel less free because, like most of us, they're being strangled by late stage capitalism but refuse to recognize that as a main cause. Since capitalism USA USA USA/socialism bad and poo poo.

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

BiggerBoat posted:

Every now and again I listen to these people and the ones that call in going on about their freedoms being violated and what have you. WTF are they not free to do, say, buy, go, write, work at, vote for, and so forth? Seriously, I'm totally not sure where they think their freedoms are being violated. Youtube, of all people, saying "yeah, this is a bit much, even for us?"

Certainly, there's no shortage of gun availability and no one is taking any of them away. There's no draft. There are no vaccine mandates. One can home school if they want. There's more than enough RWM news outlets to tell "the real story" that no one is talking about or reporting.

Every and all "violations of free speech" are individual companies (that are people, my friend) implementing internal corporate guidelines and employers doing such and such, which they claim to support, up until it doesn't go their way. In addition to a free society calling out Dave Chapelle and Roseanne Barr. Folks can say what they want - celebrities and what have you - and, far as I know, a person can choose not to stream their content, listen to their music or view their movies. Or buy lovely beer or not.

The Law and Order party who worship cops suddenly hates the power of law enforcement and our unfair justice system now that insurrectionist nazis are being locked up and the law is being applied to them.

I think they feel less free because, like most of us, they're being strangled by late stage capitalism but refuse to recognize that as a main cause. Since capitalism USA USA USA/socialism bad and poo poo.

I've challenged this assertion every time. When Obama was leaving, I'd ask, which rights are you excited to see Trump restore? Dead silence, every time.

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

Oh, except I did once hear "There are too many rights to name!" Its either dead silence or a preponderance of civil rights violations so numerous they have to be accepted in bulk with no manifest or description of any kind

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!
"Republicans are victims of capitalism" doesn't explain car dealership owners. The people calling in to talk radio to talk about losing their freedoms think they're losing freedoms because they spend a lot of time listening to talk radio tell them they are.

the moose
Nov 7, 2009

Type: Electric Swing
They lost their right to yell slurs and attack minorities without consequences

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

parthenocarpy posted:

I've challenged this assertion every time. When Obama was leaving, I'd ask, which rights are you excited to see Trump restore? Dead silence, every time.

He made it legal to say "Merry Christmas" again.

Before that, no one ever said those words out loud

Infomaniac
Jul 3, 2007
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I have been watching this channel Eric West Hawaii Real Estate on Youtube for a couple years. This real estate guy on Maui and he would just show some houses, show some beaches and show some of the area and tell us about what it's like to live out there. Just kind of a relaxing thing that I would watch at night.

Well, the fire happens - he's in Lahaina- he starts raising money and setting up star links for people and really doing a good job for his community. I'm guessing he talked to a few of the wrong people because now he's going up to burned out cars and speculating that the fire couldn't have caused the damage and speculating about Directed Energy Weapons and cover-ups.

Earlier in the week he went to look at a burned out car with some guy and they can not get their heads around why the car is so burned and why the engine melted. Then he's kind of signing off and this guy who he's with starts talking about, you guessed it, the Sherriff has all the power and can arrest anybody and everybody... some other sov cit stuff and he makes mention of the U.S. federal government is run out of London or the Vatican or some poo poo.

This evening he went live and starts asking some beat cop about why he can't park in a certain place along the coast (this isbwhere the burned out car was) and why he can't film there, etc. "What's the law that says I can't park here...). The cop's like the emergency declaration or something. This doesn't sit right with him. He wants specifics. She doesn't have them, but she asks him to leave right now. He doesn't want to leave. A few other cops show up. They tell him to sit tight. He is getting some great auditing style legal advice from the chatters to ask for "badge numbers and am I being detained." Anyway, they write him a citation for parking in a restricted area or something.

He finally leaves. He told the cops after they told him to wait that he is on his way to a funeral and is going to be late if he has to wait any longer, he just wanted to ask the cop why they couldn't park or film there the other day. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Guy is heading down the exact wrong path. It's interesting to watch. Before the fires he had like 30k subs, now he's close to 200k.

How it started



How it's going

Infomaniac fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Sep 3, 2023

Infomaniac
Jul 3, 2007
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He did mention that "I did not kill myself" when he was ranting about The Missing Children! I always figured he was a bit of a douche libertarianish Republican but I had no idea he was this cooked. He never made any mention of politics in his videos. Now he's like 1/2 step away from full-on Q pilled.

He got all worked up in his Children video. He is pissed that everyone isn't going crazy over missing kids, btw he doesn't know who's missing or how many, but I should be protesting, apparently. And speaking of protesting, he mentioned "they can protest and burn cities down and not get arrested,"what are they going to do when We protest" Something about EPA shutting down some areas for environmental hazards, but Biden, who is not really the President, didn't wear a mask when he visited. Dude's pretty fried.

Going from 1-3k views per post to multi- hundred k and even 1 million views on posts will probably mess with you. I don't see this guy coming back to his chill vibes Maui videos. He's going to be pushing this Q poo poo because of the large audience.


Oh, poo poo. He has deleted a bunch of his videos, maybe he's on the mend. Or maybe "They" got to him.:tinfoil:

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Hawaii has a particular prevalence of people with nutbars beliefs, and I don't exactly know why.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


I think most of us have followed streamers long enough that a few of them have slipped from pleasant apolitical topics into revealing that they suck real bad.

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

Discendo Vox posted:

Hawaii has a particular prevalence of people with nutbars beliefs, and I don't exactly know why.

That also goes for REALTORS®, and I bet "REALTOR®️ in Hawaii" is crazier than the sum of its parts

James Garfield fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Sep 3, 2023

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Part of the reason is the prevalence of alt-med and drugs.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Cross post

Perusing the Freep thread I see a lot of suggestions to stay home and not to publicly protest any of Trump's arrests since it's a DoJ setup and poo poo like that. Then, when the turnout for all these arrests was been comically small, suggesting that people did, in fact, stay home, they all wondered where everyone was. And, BTW, where are all the Antifa BLM uncover agents?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
To the right, every Nazi is a fed

https://twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1698162316716425531?t=u7B51Y_lxt0dpSaBXR3ksQ&s=19

Uglycat
Dec 4, 2000
MORE INDISPUTABLE PROOF I AM BAD AT POSTING
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:

What kills me is that there doesn't need to be any elaborate secret squirrel explanation for Epstein getting ganked in prison.

Dude was a rich child molester in a prison with lazyass guards. Some prison tough took advantage of the chance to make his reputation while the wardens either didn't notice through apathy, malice, or glitchy tech.

But if you want a squirrel explanation, suppose

Trump needed leverage to ensure he would not be removed from office. He has Epstein arrested, feds obtain Epstein's kompromat files,, trump uses those files to secure total party loyalty, avoids removal, takes those classified files when he leaves office. Oh, and has Epstein killed.

Uglycat fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Sep 3, 2023

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Some prison tough took advantage of the chance to make his reputation while the wardens either didn't notice through apathy, malice, or glitchy tech.

Whose reputation, again?

The Islamic Shock
Apr 8, 2021

BiggerBoat posted:

Cross post

Perusing the Freep thread I see a lot of suggestions to stay home and not to publicly protest any of Trump's arrests since it's a DoJ setup and poo poo like that. Then, when the turnout for all these arrests was been comically small, suggesting that people did, in fact, stay home, they all wondered where everyone was. And, BTW, where are all the Antifa BLM uncover agents?
So they have such a complete lack of empathy they can't comprehend everyone wanting to do the same thing they do or what?

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

The Islamic Shock posted:

So they have such a complete lack of empathy they can't comprehend everyone wanting to do the same thing they do or what?

I don't know.

Just...when RWM and FB and every conservative source of news tells them the election and the country are being stolen from them by the deep state to the point that they freak out, openly and loudly threaten revolution and then stage an attempted coup at the capitol building to prove it, which they then blame on Soros' undercover operatives when it went south and only to say it was never them...

Then they get cold feet about Insurrection 2; Election Boogaloo and decide to stay home since they don't want to be trapped again. Except there were no crowds. Did the Soros Antifa Soldiers just skip these four false flag indictment protests? And miss a golden opportunity to set fire to and burn red states to the ground that they can then pin on the proud boys?

Motherfuckers are like "stay home! It's a trap!" and then wondering where the gently caress everyone was when they stayed home. I'm wondering the same thing since I cashed my all expenses paid Soros check and went to the Georgia indictment but none of my communist brothers and sisters were there. I also voted 14 times.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

BiggerBoat posted:

I don't know.

Just...when RWM and FB and every conservative source of news tells them the election and the country are being stolen from them by the deep state to the point that they freak out, openly and loudly threaten revolution and then stage an attempted coup at the capitol building to prove it, which they then blame on Soros' undercover operatives when it went south and only to say it was never them...

Then they get cold feet about Insurrection 2; Election Boogaloo and decide to stay home since they don't want to be trapped again. Except there were no crowds. Did the Soros Antifa Soldiers just skip these four false flag indictment protests? And miss a golden opportunity to set fire to and burn red states to the ground that they can then pin on the proud boys?

Motherfuckers are like "stay home! It's a trap!" and then wondering where the gently caress everyone was when they stayed home. I'm wondering the same thing since I cashed my all expenses paid Soros check and went to the Georgia indictment but none of my communist brothers and sisters were there. I also voted 14 times.

Sounds like people want to come up with a "legit reason" why they can't personally attend these protests* but they are still totally committed to the cause, guys!
And also are hoping that everyone else goes, takes the risk of it being a trap, nothing bad happens, they get their dream of a new Trump Presidency and are also rewarded for being a true believer....who didn't actually risk anything.

*= And it's not because they are a coward. Who dares say that.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

SpeakSlow posted:

Whose reputation, again?

The dude who, in this hypothesis, murked Epstein.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

The dude who, in this hypothesis, murked Epstein.

Oh, good. I'm glad we've all heard of him.

Iirc, it was Eric.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I don’t see what’s so unbelievable about Epstein wanting to kill himself. He was terrified of jail and spending hundreds of thousands a day to be in a briefing room with his lawyer for eight hours every day because he didn’t want to be in jail. Narcissistic freaks kill themselves sometimes if they don’t like what’s going to happen to them. I know that’s an unpopular position, but I don’t think it’s less likely than one of his pedo friends doing it to keep him quiet.

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


I AM GRANDO posted:

I don’t see what’s so unbelievable about Epstein wanting to kill himself. He was terrified of jail and spending hundreds of thousands a day to be in a briefing room with his lawyer for eight hours every day because he didn’t want to be in jail.

Trump said this to Tucker when he asked on the topic, then silently waited until Trump digressed into an "anything's possible" deferment.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I don’t even think it’s all that big of a leap that some rich billionaire wanted him dead either. I don’t know what difference it makes since we all know everyone that interacted with him should be in jail.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

I AM GRANDO posted:

I don’t see what’s so unbelievable about Epstein wanting to kill himself. He was terrified of jail and spending hundreds of thousands a day to be in a briefing room with his lawyer for eight hours every day because he didn’t want to be in jail. Narcissistic freaks kill themselves sometimes if they don’t like what’s going to happen to them. I know that’s an unpopular position, but I don’t think it’s less likely than one of his pedo friends doing it to keep him quiet.

But that's boring!

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Panfilo posted:

To the right, every Nazi is a fed

It’s funny because to the left every fed is a Nazi.

Anyway, it’s funny how anytime anyone does the thing the MAGAs say they want done they immediately start chanting “false flag” like it’s some kind of magic spell that absolves them of the awfulness of their creed.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Is there still an Epstein thread?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Murgos posted:

It’s funny because to the left every fed is a Nazi.

Anyway, it’s funny how anytime anyone does the thing the MAGAs say they want done they immediately start chanting “false flag” like it’s some kind of magic spell that absolves them of the awfulness of their creed.

What kills me is that Nazis could be a thing the right pretends to agree with the left on to distance themselves from it. But it's like they're not creative enough to go that route or something. How easy would it be for a chud to say, "These Nazi fellers are bad, they're against everything the constitution is about, try that in a small town!"

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

predicto posted:

Ok I’ll bite. Is there a single source summarizing up everything we know that ties him to the CIA?

Because that kind of sounds like a Qanon theory.

Epstein's ties to the CIA have nothing to do with him dying in prison. It could still be true that he was a CIA asset and that he also killed himself.

From the literal Wikipedia entry for the first time he caught charges:

quote:

In July 2006, the FBI began its own investigation of Epstein, nicknamed "Operation Leap Year".[108] It resulted in a fifty-three page indictment in June 2007.[70] Alexander Acosta, then the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, agreed to a plea deal, which Alan Dershowitz helped to negotiate,[109] to grant immunity from all federal criminal charges to Epstein, along with four named co-conspirators and any unnamed "potential co-conspirators". According to the Miami Herald, the non-prosecution agreement "essentially shut down an ongoing FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful people who took part in Epstein's sex crimes". At the time, this halted the investigation and sealed the indictment. The Miami Herald said: "Acosta agreed, despite a federal law to the contrary, that the deal would be kept from the victims."[9]

Acosta later said he offered a lenient plea deal because he was told that Epstein "belonged to intelligence", was "above his pay grade" and to "leave it alone".[51][52][110] Epstein agreed to plead guilty in Florida state court to two felony prostitution charges, serve eighteen months in prison, register as a sex offender, and pay restitution to three dozen victims identified by the FBI.[9][87] The plea deal was later described as a "sweetheart deal".[111]

Thinking this guy was an asset isn't loving QAnon. It's looking at the literal poo poo that happened, and how the government responded to it. He got loving caught, let off the hook, permitted to do the same thing again with even more high profile people, and then caught again.

People who do what he did in the first case, typically can't be around children again. They're the kind of people that when they move, they gotta go door to door to notify people that they're guilty of sex crimes against children. Every level of the US government let him do it again, despite the availability of mechanism after mechanism to prevent this very thing. When you combine his conduct, the government response, and his history.. the idea that he wasn't a CIA asset doesn't really make sense. "Well he was a rich guy... there's a different justice system.." is a thing that only works if you're a rich guy with access to levers of power. They managed to convict the CEO of Enron in that same era. Who liked Epstein so much that he got THAT level of treatment for child rape? Why would they? He didn't work at an important bank. He wasn't political. So then, what was it?

Like sorry, we're not gonna FOIA the CIA, but it's not like there's not public records, public statements, and evidence that points squarely at that conclusion.

Also, Epstein being a suspected CIA asset predates QAnon by a lot. Like almost a decade.

ErIog fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Sep 4, 2023

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Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Panfilo posted:

What kills me is that Nazis could be a thing the right pretends to agree with the left on to distance themselves from it. But it's like they're not creative enough to go that route or something. How easy would it be for a chud to say, "These Nazi fellers are bad, they're against everything the constitution is about, try that in a small town!"

Because that's how they lose voters. Neocons who know these ultra right-wing lunatics are going to ruin everything can't be seen working with Dems, or else they'll be ousted by a primary challenger who wants to burn the mother fucker down.

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