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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Staluigi posted:

Everything these guys do feels like sad macguyver

Like it isn't plucky can-do innovation, it's some commander somewhere next in line to be responsible for everything worried about his own neck and ordering boots to break their backs doing some ad hoc asscover

You're thinking of MacGruber

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WarpedLichen
Aug 14, 2008


I don't want to dismiss ad-hoc innovation too much, since cope cages and random ERA seems to be fairly effective, but tires definitely seem like more of a stretch.

I am disappointed we didn't see the return of the plucky Russian painter, I can think of so many more projects for them, like painting battle damage on functional planes.

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

Zelenskyy has fired Reznikov, the minister of defense. I recall that there was some talk of that earlier this year but it was dismissed as rumor.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-09-03-23/index.html

quote:

JUST IN: President Volodymyr Zelensky has fired the Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov, saying the ministry needs "new approaches" as the war enters its 19th month.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Shoigu won!

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

Mr. Apollo posted:

Zelenskyy has fired Reznikov, the minister of defense. I recall that there was some talk of that earlier this year but it was dismissed as rumor.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-09-03-23/index.html

I guess we know how Zelenskyy really feels about how the offensive is going.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

daslog posted:

I guess we know how Zelenskyy really feels about how the offensive is going.

:wrong:

It's a consequence of the recruitment office bribery scandal. Valerii Zaluzhnyi is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, he's the one responsible for the military conduct. Minister of defense has nothing to do with that.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
eh he'd wanted reznikov gone for a long time but last time he made a move to get rid of him he just unfired himself or something

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Nenonen posted:


Minister of defense has nothing to do with that.


begs the question what does the us secretary of defense actually do

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

ethanol posted:

begs the question what does the us secretary of defense actually do

Duh obviously the secretary takes notes at meetings.

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

Herstory Begins Now posted:

eh he'd wanted reznikov gone for a long time but last time he made a move to get rid of him he just unfired himself or something

Do we know why Zelenskyy wanted Reznikov gone? Corruption? Incompetence of some kind? I guess Reznikov was a bit... old, is the replacement someone younger?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

jaete posted:

I guess Reznikov was a bit... old

is he? if he were US secdef he would be on the young side

interesting bit here

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1698432082370769386

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

Back in February there were rumors going around that Reznikov was going to be let go due to a bunch of scandals involving corruption and bribery at the Ukrainian MoD. I don’t think that he was personally implicated in any of them.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/2/6/ukraine-to-replace-defence-minister-after-corruption-scandals

Reznikov tweeted something like “Don’t worry everyone, I’m not going anywhere and am still at work.” and that seemed to be the end of that.

I’m guessing that something new happened or Reznikov didn’t fulfill some promises he made to keep his job and he was let go.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

WarpedLichen posted:

Good read about experiences in Kharkiv where newly trained troops are expected to hold the line, kinda bleak:
https://kyivindependent.com/new-brigade-bears-heavy-brunt-of-russias-onslaught-in-kharkiv-oblast/

Excerpts:



Getting lit up because enemy EW can detect your radio is scary as hell. Also good to note that Russian troop quality in that front appears to be high for the new troopers.

In other news:
https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1698302030370972098#m

Satellite footage appears to show cope tires on aircraft?



The local commander appears to be unhappy with the hard work and ingenuity of his subordinates.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

i say swears online posted:

is he? if he were US secdef he would be on the young side

interesting bit here

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1698432082370769386

I wouldn't use Mark Ames as a source/analysis, even if he's quoting someone else.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






i say swears online posted:

is he? if he were US secdef he would be on the young side

interesting bit here

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1698432082370769386

Interesting if true

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






By which I mean lol, lmao

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

i say swears online posted:

is he? if he were US secdef he would be on the young side

interesting bit here

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1698432082370769386

ames is a complete and total hack and the last person anyone should listen to about anything at all

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Kchama posted:

I wouldn't use Mark Ames as a source/analysis, even if he's quoting someone else.

Herstory Begins Now posted:

ames is a complete and total hack and the last person anyone should listen to about anything at all


he's not a source for ukrainian pravda :)

https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2023/09/3/7418270/

quote:

- clinically cured tuberculosis;

– viral hepatitis with minor functional impairment;

– asymptomatic HIV carrier;

- slowly progressing and non-progressing with minor functional disorders and rare exacerbations of anemia, blood coagulation disorders, purpura, hemorrhagic conditions, other diseases of the blood and hematopoietic organs, some disorders involving the immune mechanism.

- diseases of the endocrine system with minor functional disorders;

- mild short-term painful manifestations of mental disorders;

- neurotic, stress-related and somatoform disorders with moderately pronounced, short-term manifestations, with an asthenic state;

– slowly progressing diseases of the central nervous system with minor functional disorders;

– episodic and paroxysmal disorders, except for epilepsy, with minor violations of the functions of organs and systems.

drafting hemophiliacs seems bad

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

i say swears online posted:

he's not a source for ukrainian pravda :)

https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2023/09/3/7418270/

drafting hemophiliacs seems bad

That list seems quite different then the clickbaity one from before though, perhaps use the direct source without the "twisting" from a person with an obvious slant.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
I suspect the blowback will not be worth it for the couple of thousand of new recruits they might get with new rules. Might be a baked-in easy win for the new minister to roll that back.

Meanwhile, according to the British MoD, Russia has indeed been ramping up its efforts with attracting more soldiers from neighbouring countries.

https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1698212159715459238

Paladinus fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Sep 3, 2023

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

Unrelated to defense minister talk:

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1698409181387112602

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

i say swears online posted:

he's not a source for ukrainian pravda :)

https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2023/09/3/7418270/

drafting hemophiliacs seems bad

Perhaps you should post that instead of sourcing from dumbass hack idiots like Ames and it seems the guy he was quoting, since those aren't at all like what that guy was claiming. The list seems to be "people with mild or cured conditions" with makes it obvious they're loosening their requirements but not that much.

Kchama fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Sep 3, 2023

Pennsylvanian
May 23, 2010

Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!
Mark "you have to feel sorry for the poor Russian soldiers at Bucha" Ames

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Kchama posted:

The list seems to be "people with mild or cured conditions" with makes it obvious they're loosening their requirements but not that much.

if i was ukrainian and had a blood coagulation disorder, this would scare the poo poo out of me

SirTagz
Feb 25, 2014


Good punchline. Did not expect that from a PM

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

i imagine with corruption in the conscription process there were a lot of waivers being issued with money being passed under the table

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

SirTagz posted:

Good punchline. Did not expect that from a PM

It feels like an old joke about Stalin but maybe it's too old and obscure for me to find it on the internet.

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

Paladinus posted:

It feels like an old joke about Stalin but maybe it's too old and obscure for me to find it on the internet.
I remember hearing a joke how in Stalinist Russia a police office is called to investigate a crime scene. He arrives to find two KGB agents already there. They tell him “No need to investigate comrade, this person died from eating poisonous mushrooms.” The police office says “But he has a gunshot wound to his head.” One of the KGB agents says “Yes, he wouldn’t eat the mushrooms.”

saratoga
Mar 5, 2001
This is a Randbrick post. It goes in that D&D megathread on page 294

"i think obama was mediocre in that debate, but hillary was fucking terrible. also russert is filth."

-randbrick, 12/26/08
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1698402809408786502

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Wonder if height/time fusing gets those circular patterns in some shots from the DPICM

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Mr. Apollo posted:

Zelenskyy has fired Reznikov, the minister of defense. I recall that there was some talk of that earlier this year but it was dismissed as rumor.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-09-03-23/index.html

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1698459846650085687#m

Wonder how many thousand RPM will it make Bohdan Khmelnitsky hit?

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

i say swears online posted:

if i was ukrainian and had a blood coagulation disorder, this would scare the poo poo out of me

As someone who has a blood coagulation disorder, I'd be more scared of the Russian bombs.

Especially if I wasn't a soldier.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Kchama posted:

As someone who has a blood coagulation disorder, I'd be more scared of the Russian bombs.

Especially if I wasn't a soldier.

Hell, there's plenty of military jobs that don't require peak physical condition either. You don't have to be in Green Beret shape to man a desk.

It's not ideal that they need to expand their draft categories, but it's also not a sign of imminent defeat. The US had an "Old Man's Draft" during WW2.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
It may also be a response to the military recruitment scandals; if people have been getting false diagnoses from friendly doctors that were rubber stamped by the recruitment offices, then the quickest solution to filter out all those is just to revoke the exempt status and sort it out later.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
I think the Mark Ames post is more informative than the account calling a war crime shell exploding on people beautiful but what do I know.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

ethanol posted:

begs the question what does the us secretary of defense actually do

The US SecDef is also not a combatant commander. Fun fact: technically US combatant commands (eg CENTCOM, etc.) report directly to the President. Practically speaking, they get their orders from the Joint Chiefs of Staff and SecDef.

Zalushniy (sp?) is closer to a combatant commander, though I think there are some nuances which are materially different. I'm not an expert in Soviet command structures.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

adebisi lives posted:

I think the Mark Ames post is more informative than the account calling a war crime shell exploding on people beautiful but what do I know.

What are you talking about?

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

I'm saying this seems gross and unneeded.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

adebisi lives posted:

I'm saying this seems gross and unneeded.

I don't really like Def Mon (partially because he calls war footage 'beautiful') but that's apples and oranges from posting a dude who blatantly is a liar.

Also, cluster munitions aren't 'war crime shells' unless you use them to commit war crimes, like any other weapon.

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OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

adebisi lives posted:

I think the Mark Ames post is more informative than the account calling a war crime shell exploding on people beautiful but what do I know.

Apparently not the part where Ames wrote about sexually exploiting minors in Russia.

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